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Nate Schierholtz broke his toe

Aug 13, 2012, 12:31 PM EDT

Nate Schierholtz

The Phillies have placed Nate Schierholtz on the DL with a fractured toe. There’s no timetable for his return, but it’s not like there’s any urgency in Philly at the moment.

Schierholtz has seven hits in 32 at-bats with a homer, a double and two RBIs since coming over from the Giants.  Hector Luna has been called up to take his place.

  1. cur68 - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Was it his baby toe? I hope it wasn’t his baby toe.

  2. eagles7to10 - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Come on Craig, who is is MIKE Luna, Hector’s brother?

  3. sisqsage - Aug 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Nate the Great did this type of stuff all the time with the Giants. Injury prone. No pain tolerance. Then he wonders why he didn’t play more under Bochy. Some guys just don’t have the makeup to be regular contributors, and end up playing their way onto the bench, or the DL. That’s Nate. The Pence deal is going to come down to whether or not Tommy Joseph turns into anything (like 2 years from now) to avoid a total fleecing by Sabean. The minor league pitcher throw in to the trade is nothing special.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM

      Yeah, Pence is really knocking the shit out of the ball since going to SF. I feel like a broken record, the Pence move was a salary dump. Period. The didn’t want to pay him 15 million next season or just non tender him….at least they got something in return. Schierholtz will be part of a platoon in RF next season that will cost the Phillies 1/3 of the price of Pence with essentially equal production (especially once you factor in that he has turned into a butcher in RF). Furthermore, dumping Pence’s salary insured that the Phillies will remain under the luxury tax this season. Hence, there will be less issues when the exceed it next season. So, “fleece” job or not, the Pence deal served the purposes of the Phillies.

      • CJ - Aug 13, 2012 at 1:17 PM

        Bingo, they’re not asking him to start, they’re asking him to platoon. Besides, his slash linehave been better than Pence’s since the deal. Fleecing by Sabean? Hardly. Small sample size, granted, but even so, it seems like a bad time to start talking smack about a deal.

      • stlouis1baseball - Aug 13, 2012 at 4:41 PM

        With you Doc. You should sound feel like a broken record.
        Hell…even I feel like a broken record as a direct result of the number of times you have had to explain this to people (mainly Giants fans).

  4. Francisco (FC) - Aug 13, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Not necessarily Tommy Joseph, for a while Sebastian Valle has been tabbed as the future starting catcher for the Phillies, if it turns out both are viable starting catchers one of them may be traded to get a different player in return.

  5. sisqsage - Aug 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    Yeah, like Pence’s three-run homer in the 8th yesterday didn’t help. He is just starting to heat up. He’s a two-time all-star. Schierholtz will never be that. Pence wants a longterm deal in SF, so we will likely get to see this play out over time with the principal players (Joseph being the main one) in a deal playing with the organizations who made the trade to begin with. My whole thing is I am glad we don’t have to deal with Schierholtz being a tenderfoot anymore. Why is Pence’s salary a problem? He has six years of MLB vested years and a proven track record 20-25 homers and 80-100 RBIs a year. His salary is pretty much the going rate under the CBA for a veteran player (after year five is the key, then salaries escalate with time served) who has years of quality play ahead of him. As long you bat Pence 5th-6th in the order he will be fine. We can do that now with Sandoval coming back.

  6. nineroutsider - Aug 13, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    I’ve not been impressed with the Giants fans commenting on HBT. The Pence-Schierholtz deal is not a trade that you evaluate for a “winner”. The Phils were dumping salary and actually, when Schierholtz is right, he can bat .285 for them with some pop (if they give him the number of at bats he deserves) and plays a great RF. I’ve always respected Schierholtz; he was the only Giant to fear in 2011 before he got hurt. They were leading their division until he went down. He plays aggressive D, and really good D, so he will have some lower leg injuries, but he’s not injury prone. Schierholtz has always been one of my favorite under-the-radar Giants and he was clutch in 2010, so Giants fans shouldn’t forget that when they bag on him when trolling Phillies’ threads. He was a long time Giant, show a little respect.

    • codysmybrody - Aug 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM

      I love Nate as he is from a few towns away from me but what you just said above makes ZERO sense. Nate wasn’t even a regular starter last year. He was the only one to fear in the lineup? Panda was an All Star last year. Did you forget about him? To say that his injury cost the Giants a playoff berth is very uninformed to say the least. They were leading the division until he went down? No, they were leading the division until they got swept in Cincy and Beltran went down. By the time Beltran came back from the wrist injury and started hitting, they were out and AZ absolutely caught fire. Not to mention we lost Freddie and Buster and the bullpen didn’t really turn in a 2010ish performance. Nate was NOT the reason the Giants didn’t win the West last year. Nate has never been a fixture in the lineup enough to be “The only one to fear.” You sound like a real homer right now…

  7. sisqsage - Aug 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Oh admit it Niner, you are a Nate Lover.

    I love this line: “He was the only Giant to fear in 2011.. before he got hurt.”

    I thought you said he wasn’t injury prone? Look it up. Nagging injuries were a big part of his Giants career, sadly. Fact.

    So, he was more “fearsome” in 2011 than Sandoval, Cody Ross, and Posey (before the injury)?

    I don’t have anything personal against Nate. I already said in previous posts that he is a really good RF with a great arm. Recognize him for what he is: a late inning defensive replacement. Nothing more. He shows glimpses, but in the end, his offense will always disappoint you.

  8. bleedgreen - Aug 13, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    For those who don’t know, he fouled a ball off his foot that then went to the 2nd baseman. The hit would have broken ANYONE’S toe, and he still stayed in, finished the at bat, and remained in the game.

  9. pantherpro - Aug 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    Nate is Jewish! Are there any good Jewish athletes?

  10. nineroutsider - Aug 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Cody Ross and his 405 Abs for .240 was a joke in 2011 for the Giants. Posey was gone most of the year. Pablo missed all of May and much of June with his first wrist injury, then hurt his foot in August. Nate wasn’t a starter in the beginning of the year, but he was starting much of the year…he had 335 AB when he went down in August.

    By no means was losing Nate the reason the Giants lost the west last year, they couldn’t hit the G-spot on 100 foot woman, but Nate was helping the Giants hold the west, when they had no business holding it, into August. He was hitting well for the Giants last year.

    Beltran was a bust by the way. He started hitting when it didn’t matter and there was no pressure. Glad they didn’t resign him…

    If a team lets Schierholtz start regularly he will prove he can play everyday. He’s more than late inning defensive replacement, but the Giants didn’t let him prove otherwise. He should have been playing over Blanco this year. It’s all good, I’d rather have Pence anyway, but Schierholtz is a MLB starter and he will prove it.

  11. SOBEIT - Aug 13, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    Wow, Nate would be surprised by all the comments starting from a DL broken toe. Personally, I really like Nate, but I like most of the homegrown players/prospects because today’s big salary demands make it impossible to keep up with the top market payrolls. Nate has pop in the bat, great arm and solid defense. He was used as a late innings bat or runner. He never stole bases like most wanted from an atheletic young player with speed. Maybe he just couldn’t read pitchers well. But he was a great clubhouse guy and a local kid. Those are rare to play for their home team.

    One could say he never got a shot from Bochy/Sabean. Or he was blocked by the newest FA acquisition. Or he didn’t deserve to be a starter. To each their own…but I wished he at least got 1-2 seasons as a starter to show what he was capable of producing…or not producing. At the end of the day, he kept his head down, got better each year and made the most of his starts. I will always remember his and Ishi’s contributions off the bench. We could always count on his glove…and I guess some wish we could count on his bat more. But hard to rip the guy for being yoyo’d his whole career with the Giants. I hope he does really well becuase that would validate what some of us homers always believed…that Nate could be as good with his bat as he was with his glove.

  12. sisqsage - Aug 13, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Good post SOBEIT.
    I was just thinking the same thing on my last post: I can’t believe I am writing this much about Nate Friggin’ Schierholtz. Most MLB fans have never heard of him.
    It got me thinking about how this got started for me and it had to do with Craig’s headline combined with the picture.
    Doesn’t it seem like HBT’s making fun of Nate, at least a little? That’s how it grabbed me anyway.
    I bet there are a lot of MLB vets through the years who refused to go on the DL with a broken toe, especially off a foul ball.
    It all played into my premise that Nate is a little soft.
    Like I said in previous posts, Bochy wanted Nate to be the everyday RF coming out of spring training, but Nate was in a terrible slump vs. what was basically minor league pitching. That opened the door for Blanco, who was a nice story for about 2 months, and then came back to reality.
    Nate had his chance but didn’t cash in. He’s just never going to do anything special with the bat.
    And I am not anti-Phillies. They are my second favorite NL team. Love Chooch. Utley’s swing is awesome. Too bad his knee is so messed up that he can’t play a full season.
    Actually took a historical vacation to Philly 12 years ago and saw Independence Hall, which was a childhood dream fulfilled, and then Valley Forge. Drove on the highway and got a good view of the Vet. Wished the Phils were in town. Would have caught a game.
    It was a great trip.
    Overall, wish Nate the best. But the local kid never got a shot with the Giants rant doesn’t wash with reality.

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