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Deep thoughts: Melky Cabrera Edition

Aug 15, 2012, 3:45 PM EDT

Melky Cabrera AP

The news of Melky Cabrera‘s positive PEDs test brought two thoughts to my mind:

1. Cabrera was the MVP of the All-Star Game, won by the National League. As such, a PED user largely determined which team has home field advantage in the World Series.  That’s so special.

2. Despite being suspended and very possibly costing the Giants a playoff spot, the Giants still won the Jonathan Sanchez trade.

  1. Marty - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:47 PM

    I appreciate him being candid and truthful, but he should still thank the fangs.

    • droogleeddie - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM

      Did he test positive for being a vampire?

      • Marty - Aug 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM

        Did I write fangs? I meant fans.

        How embarrassing.

  2. itsmekirill - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Big surprise when a craptastic singles hitter suddenly becomes an MVP candidate.

    • Francisco (FC) - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:52 PM

      Not everyone can transform their game and become Joey Bats.

      • gregbeau - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM

        They just haven’t caught up with the Blue Jays yet.

    • mattyflex - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM

      What is it about the bay area? Mcguire, Canseco, Bonds, Cabrera….

      • tbk201 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM

        Arod, Manny, Ortiz, Braun …

      • tbk201 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM

        1/2 the 2000 Yankees …

      • nightman13 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        Still on the Braun thing? Has his performance dropped? Did he all of the sudden burst onto the scene after years of mediocrity? No, he’s one of the 5 most consistently excellent players in the NL over the course of his whole career.

        So one flukey positive test and a suspension that was overturned mean he should be reviled forever.

      • mattyflex - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:31 PM

        you’re the guy that will be saying “you’re still on the Melky thing?” next year.

      • kopy - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM

        I would if Melky has always been an MVP caliber player, and continued to do so in the future, yes.

      • kopy - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM

        Oh, and if Melky HADN’T tested positive for PEDs.

  3. RockChalkMike - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    “2. Despite being suspended and very possibly costing the Giants a playoff spot, the Giants still won the Jonathan Sanchez trade.”

    Almost a wash for the Royals at this point if Guthrie keeps pitching well. Sucks for the Rockies though.

    • geoknows - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      Yeah, when the Giants have to vacate the wins they got with Melky, I’ll buy that.

  4. redguy12588 - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    I propose that he give the car he won for being the MLB All Star Game MVP to the redguy12588 foundation.

  5. rcali - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    What is it with these Giants players and steriods?

    • paperlions - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM

      ALL these Giants players? You mean both of them? Compared to all of those clean teams from the last 20 years? Like the….um….um….I’ll get back to you.

  6. CJ - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    1. Do you remember the score to the NL game? He shouldn’t have even been the MVP. He only was b/c he had KC ties after the Cano/HR Derby, um, I don’t even know what to call whatever that was.

    • CJ - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

      I meant ASG. EDIT!

    • natslady - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:58 PM

      I remember Verlander getting shelled because he thought it would entertain the crowd to pitch 100 MPH. I remember Gio and Stras pitching and Bryce hanging out with his heroes. That’s about it… Oh, and thinking, wow, the result of the game could matter for us…

  7. El Bravo - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Sadly, you’re right. Jonathan Sanchez really really really really sucks this season. I mean, he really sucks.

    • foreverchipper10 - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:37 PM

      Didn’t he throw a no-hitter at one point? What happened with this guy?

      • El Bravo - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:40 PM

        Yeah and Humber pitched a PG, as did Dallas Braden, and Gallaraga should have one too…sometimes it’s the stars aligning (i.e. you’re playing the Rays apparently) and not so much pure skillz….

  8. lewp - Aug 15, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    I think the SF Giants AND the National League be penalized as well.

    The Giants profited from Cabrera’s PED useage, and the National League certainly did/would have by hosting the World Series.

    I recommend punishment of minus 10 games in the win column for the Giants, and make the American League the host of the World Series this year because of this development.

    • Alex K - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM

      That is a terrible idea.

    • chill1184 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:13 PM

      Why not just give home field to the team who has the better record at the end of the NL/AL championship series’?

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM

        Crazy thinking right there. Rewarding the team that earned a reward for excellence over the span of 162 games? MADNESS!!!

      • natslady - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:59 PM

        How about home field goes to the team with the best record in MLB on the day Melky was suspended?

      • chill1184 - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:36 PM

        @natslady

        Thats really not exactly fair, alot can happen between here and October.

      • zacksdad - Aug 15, 2012 at 7:21 PM

        Naw, just give it to the league that has the most suspended players for using PEDs. Wait a minute, they are doing that this year.

    • paperlions - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:47 PM

      Baseball is entertainment….get over yourself. You remind me of all of the no-talent old dudes running the Olympics that make billions off of the efforts of mostly poorly paid athletes, and then have the temerity to make moral judgments on them (all while taking bribes in exchange for votes on who should host the upcoming events).

    • anythingbutyanks - Aug 16, 2012 at 9:04 AM

      IF (big if) teams were to lose wins from their record, why should it amount to more than the WAR of the suspended player? And how can this be done in the case of players who test positive during or shortly after the post season? There is, quite simply, no fair way to do what you propose.

  9. eshine76 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    Rumor is that while injecting himself Melky was heard saying “this time it counts.”

  10. metalhead65 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM

    another great example of how steroids do not make a player better right? I am sure he has been in contact with braun and his attorney for advice but since they fired the arbitrator who got him off his chances are not as good.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM

      LOL
      Steroider apologists will quickly dismiss and forget this…

    • Alex K - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:13 PM

      Care to explain why every player that has ever taken steriods isn’t this good, then? Since, you know, they work like magic, apparently.

    • nightman13 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM

      Yep Braun was definitely guilty as evidenced by his huge dropoff in production. What? He’s playing better this year on a way worse team?

      Well clearly, he was an average player whose performance spiked irrationally. What? He’s been a stud since the day he entered the bigs?

      Well Braun is obviously a cheater because his suspension was upheld. What? It was overturned?

      Obviously it was a technicality; there was nothing unusual about the circumstances. What? He tested clean his whole career even up to a few weeks earlier? And when he took a test a week after the positive test he was clean? Not to mention the “positive” test was so off the charts high that it should have raised a ton of questions about the validity of the test? AND MLB refused to DNA sample the test to make sure it was Braun’s? Hmmm I’m starting to think there might be a lot more evidence saying Braun is clean than there is saying he’s ever been dirty.
      circumstances

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:44 PM

        Did Grimsley have any big spikes in performance? Paul Byrd? Jerry Hairston Jr? Ron Villone? Greg Zaun? Andy Pettitte?

        These guys were fairly consistent also, so Braun’s consistency does not really mean much. Maybe, like most of the guys who got caught, he was using some banned substance in an attempt to heal faster and get back to the field. Unfortunately, nobody is saying anything about this, so all we have is armchair speculation. That is the real shame of the Braun case.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM

        Andy Pettitte admitted using HGH, not steroids. Paul Byrd was also under suspicion of using HGH.

  11. mj2sexay - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM

    It’s a terrible situation, but the fact is he shouldn’t have been in any position to decide home-field for anybody based on an exhibition to begin with. I mean today proved that there are problems with the current ridiculous system that we didn’t even think of, never-mind the obvious and easy criticisms we can all levy at how home-field is gained in the WS.

    • nightman13 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:42 PM

      If he’s playing dirty he’s always going to be in position to impact something. What if the All Star Game didn’t determine home field, what if it was best record? If his artificial performance helped elevate the Giants to have the best record it impacts it. Or if the Giants beat a team and that caused them to have the second best record instead of the best?

      When you have PED users it impacts the game in a million little tangential (looking for typo, looking for typo, looks good) ways no matter how home field is decided or what rules are in place.

  12. tredav111 - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/28/giants-beat-writer-apologizes-to-melky-cabrera-for-ped-rumor/

    • CJ - Aug 15, 2012 at 4:21 PM

      Ironically now he’s sorry for being sorry.

  13. higgy5353 - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    Honestly who didn’t see this coming!!! Lol

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Aug 15, 2012 at 5:10 PM

      Melky, apparently

  14. tmohr - Aug 15, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Melkington Q, Cabrera cares not for the thoughts, deep or otherwise, of a basement-dwelling blogger.

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