Aug 16, 2012, 2:02 PM EDT
I’ve mentioned several times that I don’t like the impending Stephen Strasburg shutdown. I think that the Nationals, especially after they realized they had a playoff contender on their hands, needed to manage his workload in such a way that he could pitch into the postseason.
That said, one cannot be blind to pitcher injuries and workload in making the pitch Strasburg case. And one guy who appears to be really, really blind to it is former Braves and Orioles pitching coach Leo Mazzone.
Mazzone was on the radio in San Francisco yesterday, and he told a story about how back in the Braves glory years, his young pitchers used to carry a big load. Like Steve Avery for instance:
Let me tell you something we had pitchers when they were young in 1991 okay…Steve Avery and John Smoltz and Pete Smith and Tom Glavine were all kids. They took us to the 7th game of the World Series and they all had great careers ... I remember in 1993 when we trying to catch the Giants and we were out in San Francisco and we were 7 and half games out or 8…whatever it was in late July. We are trying to catch him and Steve Avery who was 22 years old at the time already was an MVP of the NLCS and said, ‘Leo we got them now.’ I said, ‘Oh I am glad you said we got them now. Last I looked we were about 7 or 8 out.’ He said, ‘No. John Burkett and Bill Swift are talking about how they pitched 150 innings and they might be getting a little tired. We don’t get going until we got to 150.’ ”
Steve Avery pitched 223 innings that year, which was his age 23 season. The year before he pitched 233. When he was 21 he pitched 210. In the minors and majors in the two years before that he pitched 170 or so each season. On top of that, as Mazzone noted, he pitched a lot in the postseason: 29 innings in 1991, 20 innings in 1992 and 13 in 1993.
And at the end of that 1993 season he got injured and was never truly healthy or durable again.
I don’t think Strasburg is on the Steve Avery path. The Nationals have been careful with him and, even if you disagree with the strategy they’re employing now, they are trying to continue to be careful with him. But man, if you’re going to go after what they’re doing, you probably shouldn’t be bringing up Steve freakin’ Avery as your go-to example.
Oct 22, 2014, 6:24 PM EDT
Dan Haren underwent arthroscopic surgery Wednesday on his left (non-throwing) shoulder. He’s expected to be ready for spring training.
Oct 22, 2014, 5:37 PM EDT
“I was doing some stuff in the training room.”
Oct 22, 2014, 4:16 PM EDT
Not so long ago that option looked like it might be a bargain, as Burton went from scrap-heap pickup to one of the league’s best setup men, but he showed major signs of decline this season while throwing 64 innings with a 4.36 ERA.
Oct 22, 2014, 4:06 PM EDT
In other news: Homeland Security agents now conduct raids over things like minor copyright violations.
Oct 22, 2014, 3:50 PM EDT
Jake Peavy vs. Yordano Ventura.
Oct 22, 2014, 3:16 PM EDT
Great Moments in the Uncanny Valley
Oct 22, 2014, 2:48 PM EDT
He’s owed $23 million in 2015, $25 million in 2016, and $25 million or a $5 million buyout for 2017.
Oct 22, 2014, 2:14 PM EDT
“No one ever complained” is not a particularly compelling argument against change, in baseball or in life.
Oct 22, 2014, 2:00 PM EDT
How and why baseball makes its political donations
Oct 22, 2014, 1:47 PM EDT
This year the Padres scored the fewest runs in baseball, by far, as they totaled 535 runs and the second-to-last Braves scored 573.
Oct 22, 2014, 1:30 PM EDT
I think that constitutes more than 15%.
Oct 22, 2014, 1:15 PM EDT
Long was the Yankees’ hitting coach from 2007-2014 and during that time they scored the second-most runs in baseball, but aging and injuries turned the lineup into one of the league’s worst for the past two seasons and he took the fall.
Oct 22, 2014, 12:50 PM EDT
In other news, this answers the age-old question: are there Marlins fans?
Oct 22, 2014, 12:20 PM EDT
Maybe not. But they really can’t go down 2-0.
Oct 22, 2014, 11:51 AM EDT
No, they didn’t actually wager a living baby or anything. That would be weird. They just bet on whether they should have one.
Oct 22, 2014, 11:20 AM EDT
It may cost them $100 million to get him, but they certainly could use him.
Oct 22, 2014, 11:00 AM EDT
He as 12.75 million reasons to do so.
Oct 22, 2014, 10:30 AM EDT
No one likes their routines to get messed up, but forgive me if I have trouble caring too terribly much about the complaints voiced thus far.
Oct 22, 2014, 10:00 AM EDT
The celebration was over before it really began Tuesday night at Kauffman Stadium. Can the Royals get the party started again?
Oct 22, 2014, 9:35 AM EDT
Giants, Hunter Pence bring down the house in Kansas City. It may be a sign of things to come.
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