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Team President wants Dusty Baker to stay with the Reds “for many years to come”

Aug 16, 2012, 12:03 PM EDT

Dusty Baker AP

It’s hard to find a successful manager who polarizes his own team’s fan base as much as Dusty Baker. I’m not sure why. The stuff about him being hard on pitchers is pretty far in the past.  I think he’s a pretty good manager. His players seem to like him.  He does the one thing that, in my view, is the most important thing a manager can do, and that’s keep the clubhouse on an even keel and the drama to a minimum. Just ask the Red Sox how important that is.

Yet, based on sentiment I hear here in Ohio and around the internets, there is a certain segment of Reds fans who don’t much care for him.  In light of that, this will drive those folks nuts:

Reds manager Dusty Baker should not be concerned about his current contractual situation. Bob Castellini, the team’s president and chief executive, wants Baker around for a long time.

“I would like to see Dusty Baker as a member of our organization for many years to come,” Castellini told on Wednesday, as two days of quarterly Owners’ Meetings began here at the Four Seasons Hotel. “That’s it.”

I think that’s great. Dusty fits that team well. He’s been successful. Good for him if they get a deal done.

  1. cur68 - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    “Many years to come”, eh? Any word on if he was danged* to heck for many years to come, too?

    *apparently “danged” is a real word. The things I learn ’round here…

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:21 PM

      Cur: “Danged” is definately a word in certain parts of the Country.

      Redneck White Dude:
      “I don’t want any of that “danged” Rap crap playing in my trailer.”
      “Them danged groundhogs/coons/deers is tearin’ up my garden again Lucy.”
      “Get me my danged 12 gauge.”

      • cur68 - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM

        Actually stlou, now that you put it like that, you’d think I’d have known that…danged memory isn’t what it used to be I guess.

  2. El Bravo - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Fire him. Bobby V. is going to need a new job soon.

  3. cincyredlegz - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    We love you Dusty! Thank you for bringing baseball back to Cincinnati

  4. youdogoodatbaseball - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    of course you like Dusty, you both love guys who can’t get on base (See: Drew Stubbs). Not only did he bench young position players for much less productive vets (because they were “his guys”) he ruined arms.

    And for your claim that he is well liked and keeps drama to a minimum? I remember a lot of drama between Kent/Bonds and with Sammy Sosa. And I’m pretty sure people don’t crap in the dugout if they like a manager:

  5. nineroutsider - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Mr. Castellini better say all that and much more to kiss Mr. Baker’s ass or Dusty will get so butt-hurt he’d away away from a team that went 7 games in the World Series because his giant ego would be so bruised from not getting properly massaged by management all season long.

    Dusty managed the Giants when I was a kid, and I was always have great memories of him (except pulling Ortiz to early in game 6 and not going to Chad Zerbe instead of Rodriguez who had been used too much that postseason!), but man does the guy have a big yet soft, sensitive ego.

    The better fly plane messages over the stadium professing their love for him…

  6. Aaron - Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Cincinnati need to make some noise in the playoffs before he’s praised for his “success” in that town.

  7. umrguy42 - Aug 16, 2012 at 1:00 PM

    Toss up: Who polarizes/polarized their own fanbase more, Dusty, or TLR?

  8. thefalcon123 - Aug 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    From FireJoeMorgan:

    Dusty Baker Loves OBP
    Mark this date down: July 20, 2008.

    “Ken Griffey Jr. and Adam Dunn don’t have the best batting averages, but Reds manager Dusty Baker doesn’t plan on doing anything different with the two sluggers when it comes to filling out a lineup card.”


    “Griffey’s .236 average and Dunn’s .230 average are the two worst of any active everyday starter. Only part-time catcher Paul Bako’s (.213) is lower. But Griffey, the No. 3 hitter, and Dunn, the No. 5 hitter, are leading the way when it comes to on-base percentage, and for that reason, Baker isn’t planning any changes.”

    Baker, long a skeptic of sabermetrics, the study of baseball statistics, began reading a blog called Fire Joe Morgan late Sunday afternoon.

    “Those fellas make some good points,” Baker said. “They’re profane as hell, and they’re probably gay, but they make some good points.”

    That’s not what he said. What he said was:

    “Their averages are low, but their on-base percentages are still high,” Baker said. “Their on-base percentages are higher than some of the guys who are hitting.”

    I’m afraid. This is some parallel dream world, right? I’ve just taken salvia and fallen into a utopian fantasyscape populated by black David Dukes, funny Robin Williamses and OBP-loving Dusty Bakers. That is the only explanation.

    Why do you love OBP, Dusty? Tell us tell us tell us all of the reasons!

    “I know they can hit, but it also helps to get on base and put a pitcher in the stretch. That’s the thing. Most starters don’t like being in the stretch.”


    I feel sick.

    The only…reason…to…get…on base…is…to…put…the pitcher…in the stretch?





    On the list of good things about being on base, the order goes, roughly:

    1. You’re on base.

    2. You didn’t make an out.

    3. Again, great, hey — you’re on base.

    One million, four hundred thousand. The pitcher is in the stretch.

    Besides loving OBP, Dusty Baker is also a big fan of the French Laundry.

    “It’s the most amazing place,” said Baker. “What I liked best about it was that they give you a piece of fabric you can use to wipe your mouth, wipe your hands — whatever you want. They call it a ‘napkin.’ I highly recommend the French Laundry.”

  9. foreverchipper10 - Aug 16, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Where oh where is metalhead for this one?

  10. dutchman45 - Aug 16, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    The Reds are relevant and will be a contender for a while. Dusty is 63 and is doing a great job. Give him a 4 year contract as players love playing for him. Plus his coaching staff with Price as pitching coach and Chris Speir is superb. Also Mark Berry and Billy Hatcher. Keep them all and watch a few world championships.

  11. whodeytn - Aug 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    How can you still hate Dusty with the job he’s done this year?

    Give the man a contract.

  12. jonrox - Aug 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    I’m of the opinion that the manager has very little control over player performance, as development is largely from position coaches and day-to-day play is skill-driven luck. On the other hand, the manager does have the power to put his players in the best position possible to succeed. That is, it is the manager’s job to arrange the lineup and positions of his players to maximize their potential output. This means things like putting your best batters higher in the lineup, or recognizing which players deserve playing time based on their performance.

    Based on watching the Reds, Dusty is not a good game manager. He refuses to optimize his batting lineup by insisting on putting terrible OBP guys in the top spots. He plays “his guys” (this year it is Rolen and Miguel Cairo) over deserving guys (e.g. Frazier). He frequently leaves starters in too long. He mismanages the bullpen.

    This year, Dusty has been blessed with a lot of luck: very few injuries, Votto notwithstanding; the emergence of two players that deserve rookie of the year consideration (Frazier and Cozart); and the emergence of several brilliant bullpen arms.

    The Reds winning this year has been much more about the players winning than Dusty putting the players in a position to win.

  13. dutchman45 - Aug 16, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Todd Frazier had to find a position and earn time. Do not blame Dusty. After all, Scott Rolen is a fine player and does produce when healthy. Frazier replaced him when he was hurt. Frazier is from new Jersey and is a favorite of this New York Reds fan. He will get a chance to replace Rolen next year. He will be a productive player for years. Ain’t dustys fault it took him time to break in. Dusty is a candidate for mgr of year. He will finish in top 5 and might go into hall of fame as mgr based on his managerial cumulative record. Back of him. Would u rather have bobby Valentine

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