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Report: Kelly Shoppach used Adrian Gonzalez’s phone to set up Red Sox meeting

Aug 19, 2012, 3:53 PM EDT

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Sources told the New York Daily News that former Red Sox catcher Kelly Shoppach, who has since been traded to the Mets, used Adrian Gonzalez’s phone to express the team’s displeasure with Bobby Valentine last month, leading to the meeting that has caused such a stir this week.

Three sources suggested to the paper that Shoppach sent the message, a charge that Shoppach denied when asked. Gonzalez refused to answer questions on the subject Saturday.

The Daily News suggests that Shoppach’s message came with Gonzalez’s consent:

A small group of players that has been unhappy with Valentine this season — a group that included Shoppach, according to a source familiar with the circumstances — was complaining about the manager in late July and engaged Gonzalez in the conversation. A member of the group suggested that the only way to bring about action would be to voice their problems to ownership. Gonzalez was tired of hearing the constant grumbling and agreed with them that a message from him — the team’s highest-paid player — would get management’s attention.

If that’s the truth, Gonzalez comes off worse than had he sent the message himself. For a nine-year veteran and one of the game’s highest-paid players to let a journeyman backup catcher speak for him reflects terribly on him.

Then again, we’ll probably never know the truth about how exactly the sequence of events went down.

  1. paperlions - Aug 19, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Typical Red Sox. Trade player, leak reports suggesting that player was the source of unrest.

  2. seahawks55 - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    This stinks of another manufactured storyline. As a lifelong Red Sox fan, this club has done a heck of a job embarrassing itself lately.

  3. seahawks55 - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Wouldn’t this admit that the players really do want Valentine fired?

  4. xpensivewinos - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    Perhaps Adrian wanted to find a reason for people to think he’s an even bigger douche bag than for saying last season’s collapse was “God’s will.”

    Oh, and if he was so convinced of that, why is he such a whiney little bitch now? Isn’t being stuck in Boston with Bobby Valentine also part of “God’s will?”

    Yup, everyone loves a hypocrite, back-stabbing douche bag…..

  5. pisano - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Of course they’ll throw his ass under the bus, he was traded. I say the culprit is the runt Pedroia.

    • ptfu - Aug 19, 2012 at 6:37 PM

      [citation needed]

      • daisycutter1 - Aug 19, 2012 at 7:41 PM

        For starters, Pedroia is 5’5″.

      • teaspoon1731 - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:37 PM

        He’s actually 5’9″. Small by professional athlete standards, but average for normal people. Hardly a runt.

    • protius - Aug 20, 2012 at 7:54 AM

      You can cite me.

      Pedroia is a cockeyed, backstabbing little runt, who made it all possible when he publicly bad mouthed Valentine over the Youkilis flap. Who the hell was this little stronzo to tell Valentine how things were to be done on the team he was hire to manage?

      BTW: Has anyone else noticed that Pedroia looks like a capybara?

      • pisano - Aug 20, 2012 at 9:15 AM

        protlus….. You’re right on, I had him down as a gopher, but capybara looks like more of a litter mate, and by the way there’s no way this runt is 5’9″, I seriously doubt he’s 5’5″.

      • protius - Aug 20, 2012 at 9:55 AM

        When you Google Pedroia, the right side of the lead page lists him as 5’9″. If you click on Wikipedia, it explains that MLB and the Red Sox list him as 5’8″, and that a 2003, USA Today article listed him as 5’7″.

        Apparently, Pedroia is the little prick everyone thinks he is: He grows an inch every time someone rubs him in print.

        FYI–In a July 27, 2009 Red Sox Bleacher Report, Amanda Bruno claims that Peter Schiller, of Baseball Reflections, had his picture taken with Pedroia.

        Schiller said that he is 5’5″ tall and in the photo, Pedroia is barely taller than he is, maybe 5’6″-61/2″ at the most.

  6. DiscountMescan - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    Douche and Shoppach in the same story? Dude hasn’t changed since little league.

    • 18thstreet - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:45 PM

      I’m going to assume that the story is basically correct. And that makes it FASCINATING to me that a back-up catcher (and he was always going to be the backup) would feel at liberty to complain to upper management. I wonder how often THAT happens, anywhere.

      • wgward - Aug 19, 2012 at 10:43 PM

        Who would you prefer in a fight?

        I’ll take Shoppach.

  7. townballblog - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    This team (and honestly, it truly breaks my heart to say this) has run its course. It’s time for Ben C. to clean house and start over.

    This is the only way this team will shake the negative labels that surround it – have a new group of talented young players in next year’s roster that will “re-brand” the team’s personality.

    It’s sad days for Red Sox fans.

    • vallewho - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:19 PM

      He should start with the rat @ 2b. Send him to Houston, San Diego, Miami, or Cleveland. Then Josh to Seattle.

      • pisano - Aug 20, 2012 at 1:29 AM

        vallewho…. who could argue with your post?

      • protius - Aug 20, 2012 at 8:05 AM

        Houston or Miami, whichever is worse. Let him languish in shit for the next eight or nine years.

        Send Beckett to the Mayo clinic, so they can cut out whatever isn’t cancerous and irradiate the rest; should equal about a teaspoon.

      • vallewho - Aug 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM

        All my “destinations” were meant as punishment….

    • Kevin Gillman - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM

      If only it was THAT easy, who would want to take on these bloated contracts for the bloated players?

      • vallewho - Aug 19, 2012 at 7:46 PM

        We’ll see how bad they want to get rid of them. They will certainly need to eat most of the contract$

      • Kevin Gillman - Aug 19, 2012 at 7:56 PM

        Well, I can tell you the Indians are fine at 2nd base with Kipnis, but we’d take Gonzales…LOL I just don’t see it happening though.

  8. teaspoon1731 - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Who. The. Hell. Cares.

    The Sox for various reasons are terrible this year. Because of this, Valentine’s tenure is limited whether the players like him or not. Who called for this meeting or whether the meeting happened or not is completely irrelevant.

    But yes, let’s keep beating the dead horse so all Sox fans can feel even more embarrassed by their team, and haters can rain down their disparaging remarks.

  9. cornfedhonky - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    Time to burn this team down, blow it up, go to zero. From that pissant Pedroia to Señor Douchebag (Gonzalez), Big Papi and Crawford, it’s simply poison there. Now we have a he-said she-said (Pedroia as the “she”) that’s bad for all. Enoughs enough. Burn. This. Team. Down.

    • Gobias Industries - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:37 PM

      Thumbs down for the stupid comment. Thumbs up for the sweet username.

      • 18thstreet - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:47 PM

        I don’t know … a guy named honky called out a (articulate, bilingual) Latino player as Señor Douchebag. I’m not eager to give a thumbs-up to the user name.

  10. rollinghighwayblues - Aug 19, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    For whatever reason, I keep trying to defend the Red Sox and try to put them in a positive light but seriously, after this type of shit, I will no longer stand up for them. These players seem like such yellow bellies and I wouldn’t put it past any of the players to roll over on one another when the heat gets worse. This is easily the most disliked team in MLB.

    • aceshigh11 - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM

      I’m a Red Sox fan and *I* hate this team. I’m actually actively rooting against them now because they’re an almost uniformly awful collection of human beings.

      The worse they do, the easier it’ll be to melt them down and sell them off for scrap. A last-place finish would be the best thing that could happen to them.

      • greymares - Aug 19, 2012 at 6:18 PM

        NO you are not a fan!! A fan never roots against his team EVER.

      • aceshigh11 - Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 PM

        Baloney.

        I want the Red Sox to get better. The only way they’ll get better is if they hit rock-bottom.

        Management needs to see the error of their ways and jettison as many of the clubhouse cancers as they can.

        If they miraculously make the playoffs (it ain’t happening, but IF), then they’re garbage behavior will be unjustly rewarded.

      • teaspoon1731 - Aug 19, 2012 at 7:14 PM

        Calm down there pink hat. I’m a fan and I’m not rooting against my team. I’m also not believing all this crap about every single player being a cancer. Every day there’s an article about a different player saying something or doing something horrible. I’m sure this has absolutely nothing to do with sensational journalism. The team has a huge payroll, good players, and has underperformed since their collapse began last year. People are just grabbing onto anything they can to find a way to explain it, and this is the crap we get.

        I’m sure there’s stuff being said, some of it is meant, some of it is just the grumblings of a frustrated team. Have none of you ever played on a team that’s struggling? Could you imagine if every single thing you said was taken out of context and then microscopically examined by ravenous fans? This is just getting ridiculous.

      • 18thstreet - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:51 PM

        Let’s be clear: the team has not underperformed. The pitching has underperformed.

        Go look at the team leaders in runs scored this year. The Sox are third in baseball (unless they beat the Yankees by 3 tonight, in which case they’ll be second. Or if they win in a blowout, they’ll be first.

        So don’t tell me that the *team* has underperformed. That’s not what’s happened.

  11. theskinsman - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Sources told…what sources? The same impeccable sources who posted on the Yankoffs facebook page about Jeters sex change? The Red Sox have had pitching issues and catastrophic injuries this season.Not a good recipie for success in a division with an all-star team roster every year and vastly improving Oriole and Blue Jay teams.

    In the end what junior high school girls,er, bloggers write about is all bull. They don’t know anything, so they invent or embellish as provactive as they can to get read. Mission accomplished.
    People read the ‘elvis is alive and living on the moon’ headlines as they check out of seedy stores,too. Just a believable,just as classy.

    When a team’s season is as finished as the Sox are,their fans should be watching the kids coming up, not feeding into this drivel.

    • lardin - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:29 PM

      Spare me the injury crap. The Yankees injuries are much worse this season. Currently the yankees are missing three of top four starters, there closer, 3b and left fielder. They have also at times been with out two of the games best setup men. The sox were without Crawford Ellsbury pedroia and Papi but are still third in the AL in offense. All the Yankees do is figure out a way to win. All the sox do is complain and make excuses.

      One more thing, who received the text from Agons phone? There’s your leak

    • teaspoon1731 - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM

      The Sox injuries aren’t their issue. Yes, they’ve been hit pretty hard this year, but everyone who’s been called up has performed well. The issue has been their pitching mostly, and most of that in the hands of Beckett and Lester.

      Otherwise, I agree. The September collapse was blood in the water, and the sharks (and by sharks I mean critics, the media, half wit bloggers, and Sox haters) haven’t let up since.

      • 18thstreet - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:54 PM

        The issue is ENTIRELY the pitching. This is still one of the best offenses in baseball.

        It’s. The. Pitchers’. Fault. Just like in September 2011. You can’t win when your pitchers give up 4 runs in the first inning of every game. If I were Pedroia, I’d be pissed, too.

      • teaspoon1731 - Aug 19, 2012 at 9:01 PM

        ^^^^^ This! A thousand times this!

        18thstreet, I think you and I have made the same mistake of trying to talk sense at a wall of haters. But thank you!!

  12. vallewho - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    More drama.

  13. Gordon - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Team is full of pansies. Never heard suck constant drama from a group of supposedly straight guys.

  14. legacybroken - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    For those advocating shipping the entire team off this winter are delusional. No one is going to want that collection of overpaid overated entitled prima donnas. With the exception of Ellsbury and maybe Lester and Ortiz the rest of that team is untradeable. Face it Red Sox fans, your stuck with Team albatross for a couple years.

    • teaspoon1731 - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:43 PM

      You know what? I’m happy with that. I will take this “albatross” as it is for years to come. Had Lester and Beckett performed at their average, this team, injuries, Valentine, drama and all, would be doing just fine. I don’t expect either of them to suck this much next season, as both have seemed more like themselves as of late. So yeah, I’ll keep this team thank you.

  15. respectfortampabay - Aug 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Pansies, back-stabbers, runts, ego-filled a-holes, whatever… Shoppach is a waste, the Red Sox are crybabies, the Yankees are always better no matter which team spends the most money, but none of them (and the national media as well) ever mention how the Rays always give them a run with half (or less) of the payroll. Keep talking about everyone else… don’t bother to pay attention to what might be sneaking up on you.

    • 1zzo - Aug 19, 2012 at 6:15 PM

      I think the Rays need to focus on staying ahead of the Orioles for 2nd. It’s not a given yet, with a 1/2 game lead flip-flopping between the two.

      • DCBlueStar - Aug 19, 2012 at 9:36 PM

        Hilarious. Of course a RedSox fan is drowning in his sorrows as his team plunders into depths unbeknownst to the MLB… and he has to take solace in the Orioles… the team that helped knocked his team out of the playoffs last season.

        Congratulations, Señor Pathetic.

      • 1zzo - Aug 19, 2012 at 11:05 PM

        Not a Sux fan. Just pointing out that the Rays are not even close to a sure thing for the postseason at this point, let alone division champs.

  16. keithbangedyermom - Aug 19, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    What a circus that franchise has become.

    • 18thstreet - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:57 PM

      Not for nothing, but with the exception of the first 7 years and 10 months of Francona’s managing, the Red Sox have always been a circus.

  17. jayquintana - Aug 19, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    If they fire Bobby, they absolutely can’t bring in a player friendly manager. Lou Pinella is probably too old, but they need someone like him — someone who can put his foot up these spoiled players behinds.

    • keithbangedyermom - Aug 19, 2012 at 8:31 PM

      They need another scapegoat, that’s all.

  18. ningenito78 - Aug 19, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Bull. Shit.

  19. randygnyc - Aug 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    The red sox own the 3 rd worst record in the American league since september 1, 2011. Only Minnesota and Seattle have been as consistently putrid. Underperforming is an understatement.

  20. spudatx - Aug 19, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    Shoppach drunk texted during a game?

  21. deathmonkey41 - Aug 19, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    What’s even worse is that someone used John Lackey’s phone to order beer and chicken to the clubhouse!

    • pisano - Aug 20, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      I call bullshit, Lackey was probably in a alcohol rehab at the time, at least that’s what he’ll probably say. The drunken prick.

  22. mickeylolich1968 - Aug 19, 2012 at 11:45 PM

    Okay, the back up catcher who was the cause of ALL OF THE TROUBLE has been traded so now everything was been fixed.
    Schoppach must have Cherington’s idea and now Larry Luccino has fixed everything. YEAH! Larry to the rescue. Larry is our hero! Larry saved the team from the evil, team chemistry destroying back up catcher.

    Perhaps Ben Cherington needs to sneak out the back door in Theo’s gorilla suit, and stay out until Larry gets his a** out of the baseball operations room.

  23. chiadam - Aug 20, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    I just wanted to make sure no one is stupid enough to believe the Red Sox tangled mess of bullshi@. No one actually believes that the owner hopped a flight because the reserve catcher was upset, or that said reserve catcher does not own a cell phone, or that Gonzalez thought the words would carry more weight coming from his phone even though he would immediately claim they were not his words.

  24. timpaz - Aug 20, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Now we know why Shoppach has played for so many teams, whiny no talent , poison in the dugout, watch ur back Terry Collins

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