Comments on: Scott Kazmir’s independent league comeback isn’t pretty http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Fri, 24 May 2013 22:43:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: stex52 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350745 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:06:56 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350745 Nobody thought 5-10 years ago there would be a Sugarland Skeeters. This is their first year of existence. Not so long ago this big suburb was nothing but coastal prairie.

]]> By: jl9830 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350702 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:33:53 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350702 Nobody thought 5-10 years ago that in 5-10 years, the Sugar Land Skeeters will have a Clemens-Kazmir front of the rotation.

]]> By: yahmule http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350677 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:24:01 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350677 Joe Charboneau sure fell off a cliff after his AL ROY.

]]> By: carpi2 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350638 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:50:40 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350638 Dontrelle Willis.

]]> By: dondada10 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350549 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:37:39 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350549 Funny thing is that Jim Duquette saw it coming…and still go screwed on the Kazmir deal by dealing him for even more broken arm.

]]> By: hittfamily http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350545 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:33:15 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350545 I liked him too. The only good news is he earned 15 million dollars this year to walk 8 for the Skeeters. He’ll make 15 million next year too. Everyone has to retire eventually. It may not be on the terms he wants, but it is better than the Terrel Owens retirement plan, and certainly better than the Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Rafael Palmeiro guide to going out on top.

]]> By: hittfamily http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350541 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:29:08 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350541 Sean Rod is getting sent down this week when Michelle Bachman- err – Luke Scott gets activated. Torres is our last hope of salvaging anything out of this bust of a trade. A top tier lefty…the Rays got hosed. The only thing that keeps this from being a Friedman Flop is how bad Kazmir got.

]]> By: hittfamily http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350538 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:24:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350538 Luke Scott thinks this guy is crazy.

]]> By: leeeroooyjeeenkiiins http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350512 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:38:48 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350512 As a Rays fan, I can’t enjoy this one bit. I was happy with the haul we got for him because it was clear that his career was plummeting fast, but as for Kazmir himself I felt really bad and still do. No clue what happened to him, but whatever it is it’s a sad story. This guy once pitched a really gutsy game in the world series just 4 years ago and now he’s walking 8 for the Skeeters :/

]]> By: kevinbnyc http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350511 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:37:30 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350511 That sounds like an awesome/disastrous promotion

]]> By: sportsdrenched http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350509 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:36:46 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350509 There’s even a Wikipedia page for Steve Blass Disease: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Blass

and the correct spelling of Wohlers

]]> By: 18thstreet http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350500 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:26:35 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350500 I remember thinking the Rays were crazy to give him up.

]]> By: kevinbnyc http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350499 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:26:28 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350499 A-Rod?

]]> By: sportsdrenched http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350496 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:22:52 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350496 Props to the Sugar Land Skeeters for getting mentioned twice on HBT for unrelated news items.

In other Indy League news. I saw Wally Backman Jr go 2 for 4 with the Souix City Explorers the other night. I may not have been sober for his 2nd hit. “The Beer Batter” struck out in the 2nd inning and beers were half price.

]]> By: sportsdrenched http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350493 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:19:48 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350493 I was thinking Mark Wholers

]]> By: jofidalgo http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350481 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:02:41 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350481 Jason Bay has forgotten how to hit!!!

]]> By: indaburg http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350475 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:54:56 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350475 Sean Rodriguez is the only one I could recall. I googled the others: Matt Sweeney, infielder, and Alex Torres, pitcher.

]]> By: gmsalpha http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350471 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:47:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350471 The Rays are considered my hometown team, living in Orlando. I remember when he was being traded to the Angels, thinking it was going to hurt Tampa Bay and make the Angels a really strong team. I remember so much hype and Kazmir getting a lot of run back when he was still All-Star caliber. Man, I never would have imagined he’d have fallen so far.

Does anyone recall what the Angels gave up for him?

]]> By: Josh A. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350470 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:47:52 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350470 or, as he was better known, “Canadian Chuck Knoblauch”

]]> By: cackalackyank http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350468 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:44:27 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350468 I was speculating about this when he got released. I can’t think of any of note. What I still wonder about is either a psychological breakdown, or some kind of substance abuse/chemical problem. I know at the outset it was injuries….but Brandon Webb waxed and waned pretty fast, so thats one possibility.

]]> By: beefytrout http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350465 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:35:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350465 Knoublach?

]]> By: Ben http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350461 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:31:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350461 I can’t think of any other player whose skill and ability collapsed as spectacularly as Scott Kazmir’s. Steve Blass? But that’s pretty different. Rick Ankiel, but again, Steve Blass disease, and even he had a productiveish MLB career in the outfield.
Can anyone else think of such a catastrophic collapse?

]]> By: Joe http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350459 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:30:20 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350459 *Akin. God damn it, can’t type today!

]]> By: Joe http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350457 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:29:42 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350457 If you take away the unfortunate rape comment, Todd Aken is mounting a solid Senate run.

]]> By: Josh A. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/scott-kazmirs-independent-league-comeback-isnt-pretty/comment-page-1/#comment-350442 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:19:58 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=193757#comment-350442 First positive: Didn’t walk 9!

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