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The 2012 and 2013 Dodgers if the megadeal goes through

Aug 24, 2012, 6:45 PM EDT

Hanley Ramirez, Matt Kemp, Shane Victorino AP

Assuming the Josh Beckett-Adrian Gonzalez-Carl Crawford trade gets done, here’s what the Dodgers are going to look like as they go down the stretch in 2012 and what the Opening Day 2013 lineup could look like:

2012 Rotation:
Clayton Kershaw
Chad Billingsley
Chris Capuano
Josh Beckett
Aaron Harang

LF Shane Victorino
2B Mark Ellis
CF Matt Kemp
1B Adrian Gonzalez
SS Hanley Ramirez
RF Andre Ethier
3B Luis Cruz/Nick Punto/Juan Uribe
C A.J. Ellis

2013 Lineup:
SS Dee Gordon
LF Carl Crawford
CF Matt Kemp
1B Adrian Gonzalez
3B Hanley Ramirez
RF Andre Ethier
2B Mark Ellis
C A.J. Ellis

The 2013 rotation shouldn’t change at all, as both Capuano and Harang got two-year deals last winter. The top candidate to displace a veteran would have been Rubby De La Rosa, but it sounds like he’s Boston bound if a deal gets done.

  1. melsh13 - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Remind me what these guys have done for Boston this year …

    • bigharold - Aug 24, 2012 at 11:07 PM

      Beckett is a problem but perhaps not as much as one if he was pitching in the NL West rather than the AL East. But, Gonzalez and Crawford are good baseball players and worth having. If there is anything negative that can said about them is that they are overpaid.

      Both Gonzalez and Crawford are very good players that got contracts that exceeded the players potential. The only thing that they did that was wrong was they said yes, which is NOT their fault. If the Dodgers can get these guys at a discount, with the RS picking up 40-50 mil of their total contracts, it’s worth taking Beckett.

      • sjbryce - Aug 24, 2012 at 11:59 PM

        Beckett would almost certainly be better suited in the NL West. I don’t know how you can say that Gonzalez contract exceeds his potential. Gonzalez is having a “down year” for his standards .300/343/.469/.812. That’s pretty terrible if you ask me. He knows the NL West pretty well and I’m sure he’ll be his usual self. Crawford has been injury plagued during his stint with the Bosox, but should be back next year after Tommy John. I would think you could expect something fairly similar to his career numbers especially in that lineup. This is definitely a scary lineup. Pitching could be improved especially if ownership decides to open up the pocketbooks more and splurge for Grienke. They have shown that they are going to be willing to spend whatever they need to be competitive.
        As a Giants fan, this is not a trade I’d like to see happen. Everybody in that lineup will benefit from that added protection.

    • theskinsman - Aug 25, 2012 at 4:31 AM

      If you followed MLB, you’d know what A-Gon and Crawford did this year. Beckett will rebound as is his history,and Crawford and A-Gon will rake away in the limp wristed NL West. These guys will lead the Dodgers to win the West next year.

  2. hittfamily - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    That is a killer lineup. Seeing how a lot of Crawford’s defensive value was negated playing at Fenway, and he showed he could still play at a high level this year, this could be a great deal for both sides. They Sox rid themselves of most things bad, and the Dodgers get 3 potential hall of famers still in the vicinity of their peak years.

    If the Sox send along enough money, great deal both sides. Dodgers are now favorites to win the West by 10 games for the next 5 years. The Sox get to have a do over.

    • weaselpuppy - Aug 24, 2012 at 8:36 PM

      Carl Crawford-Not a Hall Of Famer (Bobby Abreu has a better career and he won’t sniff it)
      Josh Beckett- Not a Hall of Famer- Jack McDowell and Livan Henandez had better careers and they aren’t smelling the Hall)
      A Gonz- Not a Hall of Famer- Dick Allen. Konerko, Movaughn, Mornueau…yah all better or equal, none smelling the Hall

      So you’re talking about Nick Punto, right? Honk…..

      • hittfamily - Aug 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

        You are ignorant. You are aware that you are comparing active 30 year olds to players from different era’s whose careers are over right? Bobby Abreu is 38 years old. Carl Crawford is 30. Beckett is 32. Gonzalez is 30.

        The key word is possible. Not probable. Doing it your way, Albert Pujols is not a possible hall of famer because Fred McGriff has more home runs, hits, RBIs, and Runs. Right?

        Carl Crawford has been injured, but been playing through it for the last year. If he is healthy, he is a premier outfielder. His first full season was in 2003. While healthy, ie 2003 to 2010, he ranked 4th in fWAR, behind (again keyword, possible) possible HOFers Ichiro, Beltran, and Berkman.

        According to fWAR, Beckett has the 10th best WAR among pitchers he is only 32, compared to many soon to be retirees, so he has another 6-8 years to make up the difference. At 32 years old, he has 130 wins. He will get to 200, and could POSSIBLY get to 250. We all know how important wins are in HOF voting.

        Gonzo is a little odd. He has been incredible after a slow start to his career. but for the last 5 years, he has been the 4th best 1st baseman in baseball behind Pujols, Votto, and Cabrera (again, 3 possible HOFers).

        You can say it is a dumb trade. You can say it isn’t likely these 3 players are hall of famers. However, it is idiotic to say it isn’t possible. Crawford is still a definite possiblity (despite Bobby Abreu compiling better numbers over a 16 year as opposed to Crawford’s during a 10 year career, including his 2 injured years in Boston) He has 850 Runs scored, 430 stolen bases, and has 1650 hits and next year will be his age 31 season. Can you declare with all certainty that he will not get to 1500 runs, 700 SB, 2800 hits. Those numbers certainly look worthy.

  3. proudlycanadian - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Sure reminds me of the LA Angels since the Wells trade, and we know how well that stacked and over paid lineup has performed.

  4. blabidibla - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Changing too much chemistry to make it work this year. Maybe next.

    • motherscratcher23 - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:28 PM


  5. ramrene - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Remind me again about the “Tommy John” surgery? Isn’t the player out for like… a year? Isn’t Crawford scheduled for TJ surgery? Won’t he be out for like… all of 2013?

    Just wonderin’?

    • DJ MC - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:33 PM

      He doesn’t have to throw 95 within a 2.5-square foot target from 60 feet away. He can come back by the beginning of the season.

      • keithbangedyermom - Aug 24, 2012 at 8:04 PM

        Crawford should be fine by April.

  6. tmohr - Aug 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    Gonzalez’s career line in Dodger Stadium is 212/312/364 in 190 PA. For the Dodgers’ sake, small sample sizes better apply here.

    • sjbryce - Aug 25, 2012 at 12:01 AM

      That really isn’t too small of a sample size

      • stercuilus65 - Aug 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM

        The difference being he will now be playing at home and facing Dodgers pitches throwing in their home park. 90 plate appearances scattered over three game series through the years is a small sample size.

  7. tjwilliams - Aug 24, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Yeesh, that’s $147 million tied up in 13 guys (assuming Gordon and AJ Ellis continue to be league minimum players). If they have 12 more league-minimum guys they’ll have the 4th highest payroll at $152.76 million. Assuming they don’t shed other salaries (particularly Uribe’s $8 million and Ted Lilly’s $12 million) and have only league minimum players otherwise, they’ll have the second-highest payroll at $187.7 million.

    • stercuilus65 - Aug 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM

      About fking time I say.

  8. uclafightfightfight - Aug 24, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    I am SO happy right now. Some of the bigger acquisitions I’ve dealt with over the past 5 years:

    Garret Anderson
    Juan Uribe
    Juan Rivera
    Rod Barajas
    Andruw Jones
    Manny Ramirez
    Bobby Abreu
    Brad Ausmus
    Juan Castro

    We’ve also dealt Carlos Santana, J.D. Drew, Adrian Beltre, Jayson Werth.

    This year, we bring in Hanley, Victorino. and now potentially Gonzo, Crawford, and Beckett. This is what I’ve been waiting for. Way to go Dodgers. You’re making it a little easier to be a fan. The Kings and Lakers are helping out, too. I feel big things coming for this town again! Stay true Dodger Blue!!!!

    • jimeejohnson - Aug 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM

      Especially after the San Francisco Giants swept the Dodgers in Los Angeles, knocking the Dodgers out of first place yet again. To be fair, the Dodgers swept the Giants in SF earlier this season. At least that jerk McCourt is out of the picture. Now, the Dodgers have a chance.

      • stercuilus65 - Aug 25, 2012 at 4:38 AM

        What is up with the wildly uneven play against the Giants this year? It’s driving me nuts.

  9. conwell2549 - Aug 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    Dodgers have just become the west coast Yankee’s

    • uclafightfightfight - Aug 25, 2012 at 1:24 AM

      Oh yeah, we just one-up’d the Angels alright…

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