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Dodgers set to get Gonzalez, Crawford and Beckett from Red Sox

Aug 25, 2012, 8:23 AM EDT

8:23 a.m. EDT update: Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the deal is “pretty much done.” Beckett and Crawford have waived their no-trade rights and both teams have signed off on medicals, so we’re presumably waiting on approval from the commissioner’s office.

6:40 a.m. EDT update: According to Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com, the blockbuster deal will be made official Saturday.

2:10 a.m. EDT update: Jon Heyman reports that Crawford has approved the trade. All that stands in the way now is Beckett waiving his no-trade clause and league approval. Expectations are that it will be finalized.

Here’s a breakdown of all of the pieces involved.

11:05 p.m. EDT update: According to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, the Dodgers are one of just three teams on Crawford’s no-trade list. He’s yet to be asked whether he’d approve the deal, though many have suggested he’d welcome the move.

10:40 p.m. EDT update: The Boston Herald’s Michael Silverman reports that the Dodgers would absorb more than 95 percent of the combined $271.5 million in salaries the Red Sox are sending their way. If that’s true, the Red Sox would eat no more than $13.5 million.

8:00 p.m. EDT update: FOXSports.com’s Jon Morosi reports that the Dodgers have agreed to send RHP Rubby De La Rosa, RHP Allen Webster, 1B/OF Jerry Sands, INF Ivan De Jesus and 1B James Loney to the Red Sox for 1B Adrian Gonzalez, OF Carl Crawford, RHP Josh Beckett and INF Nick Punto. Nothing is expected to be finalized tonight.

7:42 p.m. EDT update: A source told CSNNE.com’s Sean McAdam hat the Red Sox have yet to secure trade permission from either Josh Beckett or Carl Crawford, but he adds that neither is expected to block a deal. Adrian Gonzalez lacks any sort of trade protection in his contract.

FOXSports.com’s Jon Morosi is reporting that top Dodgers prospect Allen Webster is also involved, which would seem to suggest the Red Sox are throwing quite a bit of cash into the trade.

WEEI’s Rob Bradford reports that an announcement of the trade is unlikely to come tonight.

7:03 p.m. EDT update: Adrian Gonzalez was scratched. too.

6:58 p.m. EDT update: The Dodgers just scratched James Loney from Friday’s starting lineup. It looks like this is getting done.

6:50 p.m. EDT update: Yahoo! Sports’ Jeff Passan says the Red Sox and Dodgers have the framework in place and believes that something is going get done. The Boston Globe’s Peter Abraham says the sides have two possibilities in play, the likely nine- or 10-player trade that includes Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford and Josh Beckett, as well as a somewhat smaller trade that excludes Crawford.

The Dodgers sent rumored key component Ruddy De La Rosa back to Triple-A today, a move that would facilitate a deal. De La Rosa didn’t clear waivers, so he can’t be traded as is. However, now that he’s back in the minors, he can be included as a PTBN (a player to be named) and then get sent to Boston once the season is over.

5:58 p.m. EDT update: Speaking on WGAM with Matt Perrault, ESPN Boston’s Gordon Edes said he believes the Red Sox would get back RHP Rubby De La Rosa, INF Ivan De Jesus, 1B/OF Jerry Sands and 1B James Loney in return for Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett and Punto.

Loney is probably just in there for salary purposes, not as someone the Red Sox would be looking at as a 2013 first baseman. De La Rosa is the legitimate prospect, a possible No. 2 or No. 3 starter as soon as next year. De Jesus is a utilityman, while Sands would be worth an audition as a first base or left field option.

5:50 p.m. EDT update: A source told FOXSports.com’s Jon Morosi that a deal is close, with Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett and Nick Punto all involved.

Morosi says the Red Sox would seen some cash to the Dodgers in the trade.

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Wow!

Gonzalez, Beckett and Crawford!  That’s around $300 million in players who aren’t as good as the Red Sox needed them to be on the verge of being shoved out the door.  No idea what the return could be. Rubby De La Rosa is the Dodgers top prospect, but some have said he’s untouchable.  I guess we’ll find out.

102 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. number42is1 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    the collective Sox nation just got a hard on

    • bigleagues - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:33 PM

      . . . not just that!

    • stabonerichard - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM

      I just had to change my underwear…and I’m not even a Red Sox fan!

    • biasedhomer - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      Looks like the Dodgers are following the Brooklyn Nets model.

  2. hansob - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    Pump the brakes, Dodgers! There’s a thing called the FREE AGENT MARKET. You don’t need to buy everything from “overpriced” bin!

    • paperlions - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:58 PM

      The Free Agent Market IS the over-priced bin.

  3. wetmorepsu12 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    you forgot to include Nick Punto in the headline……..

    • 18thstreet - Aug 24, 2012 at 8:04 PM

      I’m so happy that he’s part of the deal.

  4. erikh24 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    won’t take a top prospect (unless Sox are thowing in a good chunk of $), as shedding these contracts alone would be a net gain for Boston. Cash must be burning holes in LA’s pockets …..

  5. bigleagues - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    As I speculated on Twitter earlier . . . Justin Upton has been claimed by a mystery team.

    Also, Joe Saunders just cleared waivers.

    The Red Sox have reportedly expressed interest in both of them before.

    IF, they are shipping Beckett/Gonzo AND Crawford out in one feel swoop to the Dodgers, then I’m willing speculate that the Red Sox are the mystery team who claimed Upton.

    The Sox don’t typically make huge moves with substantial talent going out, without having corresponding moves in place to bring substantial talent back in.

    Saunders clearing waivers makes him available to be traded to any team and would represent a quality stop-gap for the Sox.

    • hansob - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:45 PM

      Justin Upton probably got claimed by 28 teams. (The Astros front office is too busy taking down the depth chart posters to put in waiver claims).

      • bigleagues - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

        Good point.

        But teams that have already been rebuffed may have passed knowing what it would take to acquire him – plus while still team controlled he is owed close to $40 Million over the next 3+ seasons which, given the way this season has gone would scare some teams off.

        Long shot? Quite possibly, yes.

        Out of the realm of possibility? Well let’s just say if someone told me this morning that by the end of the day today – a team (ANY team) would be seriously interested in taking Gonzo AND Crawford AND BECKETT off the Red Sox hands – in one breathtaking deal . . . I would have laughed it off and bought a Powerball ticket – because there would have been a better chance at striking it rich in the lottery than speculating that something like this could be on the horizon.

        I mean the anticipation of this is like the knowledge that the Sun will finally come out after 12 months of non-stop rain.

      • proudlycanadian - Aug 24, 2012 at 7:02 PM

        It would get the Red Sox out of luxury tax hell.

    • natslady - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:46 PM

      Do you think they would really let Upton go? Rumors and rumors that they weren’t happy with him…Rizzo’s wanted his brother for years… hmmmmmm…..

    • bradybbgoat - Aug 24, 2012 at 9:37 PM

      Believe me, with all the leaks in the Sox front office it wouldn’t be a mystery if they claimed Upton.

  6. brewcrewfan54 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I think the Dogers owners are trying a little too hard here to make a splash.

  7. okwhitefalcon - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    This is more hilarious than when the Dodgers signed Eric Davis and Darryl Strawberry and could be the best thing that ever happened to Boston since the Pedro Martinez deal.

    • proudlycanadian - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM

      Agreed!

      • bigleagues - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM

        Another thing, if this deal happens with the reported players involved, then it’s a pretty swift kick to Lucchino’s meddling in Baseball Ops.

  8. hansob - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    The Dodgers are like my kids after they get their birthday money. Willing to spend it on the first thing they see that they want, regardless of price.

    • proudlycanadian - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM

      Perhaps Vernon Wells is next!

  9. number42is1 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    wait… i thought a player on the DL couldnt be traded?

    • thomas2727 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:49 PM

      Great point. A player on the DL cannot be traded. Would this be considered a trade officially since the players are clearing waivers? We need a lawyer to explain.

      • pinkfloydprism - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM

        Yes they can

  10. baseballbum - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    It looks like the Red Sox have identified the Problem (finally!). They still have to get quality players in return, its not strictly a salary dump. I still dont like Bobby V as manager (and this is AFTER thinking he was the right guy in the beginning). Its obvious that younger, player relatable is the way to go. I like that the Sox are doing something NOW. Why wait til November, this team is too painful to watch and people will stop coming very soon. Last night was the lowest of low blows….

    • brewcrewfan54 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      I don’t know that a younger manager who can relate is the answer as much as just not hiring a guy who mutters insults at players when they make a mistake and then publicly criticises them also.

  11. mybrunoblog - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Wow. With all those guys gone they can kiss the sell out streak goodbye.

  12. townballblog - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    As a Red Sox fan, I love this. Not because I want them gone but because they’re not what we need. Even Theo said that he broke away from what made the sox great: in-house talent and not overspending on free agents, a la Yankees.

    • daisycutter1 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM

      Take a look at the 2004 and 2007 Red Sox rosters. Not exactly homegrown.

      • 18thstreet - Aug 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM

        Shh. Stop making up facts.

      • townballblog - Aug 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM

        2004 was not really “his roster,” he had just become the GM before the 2003 season. If you look at the 2007 roster, which I did and apparently you didn’t, a large number of those players – some key players others not so much – did in fact come up through the Red Sox farm system:

        – Jacoby Ellsbury
        – Kevin Youkilis
        – Dustin Pedroia
        – Clay Buchholz
        – John Lester
        – Jonathan Papelbon
        – Manny Delcarmen
        – Javier Lopez
        – Brandon Moss
        – David Murphy

  13. dondada10 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Boston’s gotta be absorbing a huge amount of money here.

    • Jeremy Fox - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

      Not necessarily–in principle, they could just let the Dodgers claim Gonzalez and Beckett, along with their entire salaries. Pure salary dump. In practice, I guess the Sox would send some money the Dodgers’ way in order to get some players in return. But a huge amount? Dunno, guess we’ll be finding out.

    • ozzie65 - Aug 25, 2012 at 9:37 AM

      I think about 20M

  14. dalucks - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    This type of reckless spending will have the new Dodgers ownership selling the team in a few years like Frank McCourt. Buying overpaid players does not make you a contender, save your money and develop your farm system like the Tampa Rays.

  15. bleedblue77 - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Dodgers are trying to hard to win to inflate their future TV rights deal.

  16. phillyphever - Aug 24, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    Ok, I understand the Dodgers are trying to win. But why would they take on Beckett and Crawford (Gonzo and Punto I can understand)? Big mistake LA.

    • schlom - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

      That might be the first time anyone has ever said they can understand trading for Nick Punto (and not Carl Crawford or Josh Beckett).

      • phillyphever - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

        Punto makes nothing compared to Beckett and Crawford. Plus, nothing wrong with getting a SUT player.

  17. frankiefiveangels - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    The amount of money involved in this deal is staggering, possibly more then the GDP of some third world countries. How much of that money the Red Sox save and the Dodgers take on will determine the success of this deal for the Red Sox, and whether or not John Henry pockets it or spends it wisely on talent. This could be like the Herschel Walker deal for Boston if the money is used well.

  18. paperlions - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Okay….so….Boston fans will be happy to see these guys out the door. Fine, who pitches, plays 1B and LF next year?

    This is kind of like Philly fans being glad Pence and Victorino are gone…..they don’t have anyone better lined up in the minors or available in FA….so, even though you may have been fed up with someone …..that doesn’t mean the team just got better.

    • paperlions - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

      If you are Boston, you also have to consider that many players in FA will avoid Boston like the plague after the last couple of years….yeah, they’ll have talks with them to try to drive up their price…..but if they have similar offers from other teams, most players will be going somewhere else…because most player won’t think that the players that were shipped out were the problem and the problem(s) are still in the organization.

    • phillyphever - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM

      1) Victorino wasn’t gonna be back in 2013 and Hunter wasn’t worth an 8 figure salary (something the Giants are learning right now). Still wished they let Lee and that contract go to the Dodgers.

      2) Does it matter for the Red Sox? They’ll be glad to get rid of that dead weight on the team. Plus, it’ll send a message to the players that they’ll be gone if the ship doesn’t righten.

      • paperlions - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM

        The players may suck, but they aren’t the one’s leaking stuff to the media, or flat out saying dumb stuff to the media….they can ship out all the players they want to, the problem will still be there….they’ll just manifest in a less talented club

      • phillyphever - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM

        At this point, talent is the last thing on the FO’s mind. They need to right the ship and show the players who’s in charge there. Talent alone doesn’t win titles.

      • paperlions - Aug 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM

        Yeah, making bad baseball decisions and sending players to a team that might make the playoffs and doesn’t have the horrible Boston media making every ant hill into K2….that’ll show ‘em.

  19. jhorton83 - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    I’m not a Red Sox fan, but if I were a Sox fan, I’d be giddy if this goes through. Not only are they rid of the headache players that have heavily contributed to the cancerous environment on the team (not to mention their contracts), but they get a top prospect in De La Rosa in return.

  20. poprox13 - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    This is horrible, that is a terrible return even if it was just Gonzalez by himself.

  21. tominma - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    I sure hope this deal goes thru!!! Crawford seems to be a good guy but the other 2 seem to be poison!! PULL THE TRIGGER!

  22. randygnyc - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    MLB channel said Andre Either also mentioned. Holy Sh!t. Can’t remember a deal this big (salary wise). Also, how can Crawford be traded?

  23. jayscarpa - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Don Mattingly in one happy hombre

  24. andrebeingandre16 - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    I may be mistaken but dont players on 40 man rosters have to be submitted through waiver claims when trying to trade. In that case De La Rosa and Sands would probably be claimed. Maybe even DeJesus.

    • schlom - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:45 PM

      I don’t see how this can possibly happen. Unless the Dodgers already sent the players through waivers and no one claimed them, but I don’t see how that’s possible.

  25. pantherpro - Aug 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Dodgers still suck

    Western Division leading Giants

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