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Alfredo Aceves “tore off his jersey” on Friday night

Aug 26, 2012, 10:03 AM EDT

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The Red Sox gave closer Alfredo Aceves a three-game suspension on Saturday for what was described as “conduct detrimental to the team.”

Thanks to Mike Petraglia of, we now have more details about what exactly took place:

According to three sources inside Fenway Park, Alfredo Aceves tore off his jersey while making his way from the bullpen back to the clubhouse in the moments after Boston’s 4-3 win over the Royals Friday night. The game was saved by Andrew Bailey one night after Aceves allowed six hits and five runs and blew his third save in five chances.

Aceves then barged into manager Bobby Valentine’s office and requested a meeting with GM Ben Cherington. But Cherington was busy working out the details of that nine-player blockbuster, so the request was denied.

“I’m a little disappointed,” Bobby V told reporters on Saturday after the three-game suspension was announced. “You’ve just got to know the difference between right and wrong. That’s all we ask.”

Aceves has registered a 4.60 ERA, 1.24 WHIP and 57/23 K/BB ratio across 62 2/3 innings this season for the fourth-place Red Sox, converting 25 saves in 32 opportunities. Bailey, meanwhile, has a 2.08 ERA, a 1.15 WHIP and a 4/1 K/BB ratio in 4 1/3 innings since returning from the disabled list. Friday’s save was his first.

  1. Bryz - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Does that mean that John Farrell should have been suspended 3 games last year for tearing off Jon Rauch’s jersey?

  2. pisano - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    I don’t know what kind of contract Aceves has with Boston, but if it’s up at the end of the season he should move on. If used right this guy is a good reliever. I think they over used him, which Boston has done to many relievers over the years, they burn these guys out. He’ll have no trouble getting on with another team, as a matter of fact he should not resign with Boston if he has that option.

    • raysfan1 - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:25 AM

      It’s a one year deal, and he is arbitration eligible.

    • pftcensorssuck - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:27 PM

      What pitcher have YOU been watching? This guy flat-out sucked. and he’s acting as if it were his God-given right to go in and blow games.

      Shut up and sut down, jacka$$. You can slam doors when you’re actually saving games.

      • seahawk8 - Aug 27, 2012 at 10:11 AM

        hey douchebag Aceves didnt suck he was over used ,,, sit down ass breath

  3. legacybroken - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    I just pictured Aceves tearing his uniform off Hulk Hogan style and threatening to run wild on Bobby V.

    • kiwicricket - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM

      With all this bombardment of PED use being plastered about so often….Subliminal thinking had Aceves going green and ripping his uniform inadvertently.
      I think in both cases, Bobby V is in serious trouble.

    • bw1980 - Aug 26, 2012 at 5:12 PM

      To the tune of a “I am a real Mexican”?

    • tashkalucy - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:14 PM

      I think I may be lost.

      Is this ProBasketballTalk?

  4. raysfan1 - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    He threw 39 pitches the night before. Regardless of the blown save, it’s unlikely he was getting used Friday. If that was why he was mad, it’s pretty lame. However, that club seems to have more leaks than a sieve.

    • bradybbgoat - Aug 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM

      Totally agree, raysfan. Regardless of what happens behind closed doors, there is no way the media should find about this stuff.

      “Aceves was suspended 3 games for conduct detrimental.” End of story.

      Sure, as a fan I was read this stuff and comment on it. But imagine how this place is for the players.. They must be looking over their backs every second and talking in hushed whispers. And potential free agents? Ha! No one is going to want anything to do with Boston, and rightfully so.

      More things than players need to change in Boston. They need to rid the organization of all these loose lipped drama queens and beat back all the swarming media members to a safe distance. Every day is like an episode of reality TV.

      Although I hate to admit it, I envy the ship run in Tampa under Maddon. You all have yourselves a fantastic manager and by all indications a great clubhouse environment. Sigh…

      • vallewho - Aug 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM

        It’s Boston. It’s the Red Sox.

      • bradybbgoat - Aug 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM

        Fair point, valleywho.

        Every market has to deal with the media, though. Players say things, incidents happen and there are questions to be answered. In Boston those things happen under a huge microscope. But its still possible for organizations in a large market to keep certain things behind closed doors: Chicken and beer stories, snitch witch hunts, player/coach/owner meetings, and even minor things like this Aceves incident which add up over time.

        Dirty laundry is being aired for public consumption. On every team in every professional sport shit happens in private. And when it stays private, teams can get over it and move on. With the Sox, the media finds out and then the players have to answer endless question. Something that would have been a non issue ends up becoming the subject of endless scrutiny.

        Things snowball more quickly in Boston than they would in Tampa but that doesn’t change the fact that that organization is simply being run better right now.

      • Sign Ahead - Aug 26, 2012 at 5:11 PM

        I think it’s more than just answering questions about a leaked story. Here we have a manager who seems to be publicly bringing the story to the media (or maybe just embellishing on the story) himself. He seems to be more interested in winning a dispute with an angry relief pitcher than he is in rebuilding his dysfunctional team.

      • bw1980 - Aug 26, 2012 at 5:16 PM

        I was going to make a similar comment last night. I don’t even think that detrimental conduct should enter into the equation.

        I think that you just don’t dress the guy and then, when/if (okay, when) the media picks up on it then you tell them that he’s dealing with personal issues.

        I guarantee that this happens a lot more than we think but it doesn’t get out the way it does in Boston. If the Red Sox really want to start cleaning up this mess then I think they need to do a lot better job of cutting the media off and ensuring that information is distributed to employees on a need to know basis because this team has more leaks than the Titanic.

        They might want to seriously consider relocating their operations outside of the eastern part of the country. Move it to Wyoming or Montana or California–plenty of company’s have headquarters where they don’t conduct business. I think the Sox need to seriously consider somethign similar because the front office’s relationship with the Boston media is inappropriate and shame on the Boston media for allowing themselves to become propagandists for the front office.

  5. dondada10 - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:31 AM


  6. mgv38 - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Brandi Chastain, he ain’t.

  7. townballblog - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Aceves should be back next year. If you follow the team you know he is an extremely valuable player, he’s just having an off year.

    Last year a lot of players thought he should’ve been given the chance to be a SP, I think he could do that.

  8. townballblog - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    @Bryz, hahaha! Thanks, I had forgotten about that.

  9. willclarkgameface - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    WWAAAAAAAHHHHHH….I didn’t get to pitch tonight.

    Shut up. That’s a clown request bro.

  10. drewsylvania - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    He wanted to meet the GM? Probably PO’ed about the trade.

    • errorcard - Aug 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM

      Or PO’d that he wasn’t included in the trade. Another clubhouse source reported that after he ripped off his jersey, he was wearing a Dodgers t-shirt underneath.

  11. exibitsman - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    The red sox need to send this punk a message. Cut his Mexican azz ASAP HE will
    Be pitching in the Mexican leagues next year. LMAO.!!!!!!!!!

    • southofheaven81 - Aug 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM

      Dude, I’m a Yankees fan, so understand that it gives me no joy to say this in defense of the enemy: Go fuck yourself.

  12. churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    …right and wrong…that’s all we

    So publicly calling out a player to the media is right, and arguing with your manager in private is wrong?

    • brewcrewfan54 - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:24 AM

      It appears that right and wrong in Boston is in a gray area.

    • paperlions - Aug 26, 2012 at 12:01 PM

      Exactly. Of all the people to talk about expecting someone to know the difference between right and wrong, Valentine isn’t really a paragon.

      To recap, he called out a player that was clearly hurt and questioned his effort and commitment (a player that has always shown a top level of investment in the game and typically cares too much).

      Then in an interview he called a personal leave of absence by his pitching coach to take care of his ailing toddler who had a serious medical condition a “vacation”; the epitome of disrespect and lack of priorities.

      When clubhouses turn into what Boston has the reasons are the same as they are when work places become completely disgruntled. Poor leadership. If you don’t show people respect, you won’t (and shouldn’t) get it back.

      • paperlions - Aug 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

        To be clear, of course Aceves was being a dumbass and deserved the suspension….but Valentine is just not the guy to take moral high ground.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 12:44 PM

        How can he? You planted your flag there already.

      • paperlions - Aug 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM

      • paperlions - Aug 26, 2012 at 12:49 PM

        You are correct. I should model my behavior after yours and attempt to undermine everyone I don’t like by making up childish names for them while blathering on as if my education somehow lent credence to my ramblings.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 1:21 PM

        You’re beautiful when you’re angry – even if you are monotonous in your leaden sanctimony. As far as your gratuitous, limping criticism of me, check out Luke 7: 3-5. I’m citing Gospel today only because I’ve already worn out Aristotle.

      • raysfan1 - Aug 26, 2012 at 2:20 PM

        Luke 7:2-9, an excellent passage on a soldier’s faith and generosity, and the respect accorded him by the community elders. One of my favorites.

      • paperlions - Aug 26, 2012 at 2:50 PM

        I’m neither beautiful nor angry.

        Just annoyed by condescension from a pedantic snob who things he’s clever. You rambling attempts to impress yourself remind me of 1/2 the people in my department that are far too impressed with the letters after their name.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 3:10 PM

        As I said, you need to check out Luke 7 – you know, the one about the mote and the beam. I trust that your proclivity for climbing up on your alabaster pedestal and administering lectures on morality to your peers as if they were children and you fancied yourself a prophet from the wilderness isn’t modeled on the behavior of your pedantic colleagues. One wonders, then, where you do get it from. Your contempt for your colleagues – who, no doubt, your (once again) gratuitous bile suggests are really your betters by a league and some – rivals your implicit contempt for the other members of this board upon whom you never tire of imparting your comical version of moral probity like some pompous local clergyman. It also explains your holier-than-though disquisitions about seeking moral authenticity by refusing to attend the funerals of those who have served the organizations in whose service you have labored yourself. I have to confess that I tried to respond a couple of times to the ethically bankrupt points your were struggling to make on that thread but simply failed to take your sophistry seriously enough to do so. Your calling me a snob is, on a day full of political posturings about weather and social politics on TV, one of the most hilarious exercises in sheer hypocrisy it has been my pleasure to observe.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Aug 26, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        Paper, you’re pretty condescending yourself on these boards. Maybe you don’t care for Gator because he remind you of yourself.

      • paperlions - Aug 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM

        You may be right.

      • raysfan1 - Aug 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        Oh, Gator, you mean Matthew 7:3-5. I missed your point earlier.

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 4:28 PM

        Raysfan: Yep. Cerebroflatular episode; welcome to late middle age. Luke 18-19 was lodged in my left brain, Matthew 7 in my right. I think there must be some cucumber peelings lodged in the corpus callosum again – I need to remember to remove the drain screen. Thanks for the poke in the head.

      • raysfan1 - Aug 26, 2012 at 7:23 PM

        No sweat, Gator. Better to get those peelings stuck in the corpus callosum though than the for amen of Magendie–interrupting communication between cerebral hemispheres is one thing, cutting off the communication between the brain and the spinal cord would be something else entirely!

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 7:46 PM

        At my age, the utility of having a brain that communicates with my spinal cord is becoming less and less apparent….

      • Francisco (FC) - Aug 27, 2012 at 10:39 AM

        In that case just get a chair like Christopher Pike’s, at some point all you will need is a blinking light anyway.

  13. tfbuckfutter - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    “But Cherington was busy working out the details of that nine-player blockbuster, so the request was denied.”


    ‘Hey Ben, I know you’re busy dealing with one of the biggest trades in baseball history, comprising hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts and all….but you’re terrible stopgap closer, who makes just over $1,000,000 a year is a bit upset about not pitching tonight and would like to have a word with you. Can you stop what you’re doing so he can demand to be included in the trade to? What? No, you can’t?…..Ok….Sorry Armando…..right right, Aflredo. Get out.’

  14. baseballbum - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Do you think maybe this whole episode happened because Bobby V. did not tell him he would not be used that night? And of course Bobby V. doesn’t know the personality of his players, so there you go. They made a public example of him instead of keeping it in house. I see both sides of this story. But honestly, the Redsox need a positive vibe right now. They should probably consult Big Papi on how to do that. That and solid pitching.

  15. Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    “You’ve just got to know the difference between right and wrong. That’s all we ask.”

    Someone please Fedex Aceves a copy of the Nicomachean Ethics. Alfredo, meet Aristotle. Aristotle, meet Alfredo.

    And you have to wonder if that shitshit bite hasn’t become infected with the same prion-vectored neurological disease called Die Vloek van der Geitbok in Chicago.

    Well, you do.

    • chumthumper - Aug 26, 2012 at 2:33 PM

      Does anyone have an Old Gator to English dictionary?

      • Old Gator - Aug 26, 2012 at 3:54 PM

        Hmmm…I sense an opportunity to make a little money here….

  16. Glenn - Aug 26, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    The mistake was naming Aceves the closer in the first place. Bobby V should have named no one, gone with matchups, who’s pitching well, etc. Then they wouldn’t have an ok reliever having an off-year storming around with a closer’s ego.

    • pisano - Aug 26, 2012 at 1:26 PM

      Glenn….. in response to your post…..Amen, you got it right.

  17. vallewho - Aug 26, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Does Bobby V. “know the difference between right and wrong” ?

  18. drewzducks - Aug 26, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    So he did a poor mans Rafael Soriano impersonation…big deal.

  19. jmmsr1 - Aug 26, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    The common denominator here? Bobby V. of course

  20. genericcommenter - Aug 26, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    Well, if I had done well with the Yankees but they weren’t even willing to offer me a minimum Major league contract, and I had to go to the Red Sox- I’d probably be pretty frustrated, too.

  21. onbucky96 - Aug 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Whatever Valentine, you’re the worst POS in Boston since…well, ever. Hope when the Sox fire your weaslly a$$ ESPN won’t hire you back. You took a collection of talented underachievers and turned them into a toxic train wreck. Now, how do u like ‘dem apples!?

  22. 1historian - Aug 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    The sox are boston’s answer to the jets

    they take themselves very seriously, so do the fans, the press is to die for, and they continually find ways to keep screwing up while till charging absurd prices for tickets which the fans continue to pay and then they go home to sit down and wrote LTTE.

    You can’t make this up

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