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Rafael Soriano explains why he was not around for the media last night

Aug 28, 2012, 4:30 PM EDT

It’s pretty simple, really:

 

Yes, because it’s unprecedented for the media to want to talk to him after a poor outing.  And for him to take off without doing so. And for him to later have to apologize for it.  I mean, it’s not like this exact same thing happened last year or anything.

Oh, wait.

  1. lazlosother - Aug 28, 2012 at 4:43 PM

    Stop trolling Phillies fans Craig. Just stop.

    • El Bravo - Aug 28, 2012 at 5:08 PM

      This was hilarious, why no thumbs up?

  2. maynardstool - Aug 28, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    Why is it that the media think they’re owed something? I mean if you write a shitty story or just have a really bad day at work, do you have to explain why you sucked that day?

    Media people these days are getting to be as bad as umpires. Both are meaningless in the grand scheme of things yet they try to make themselves the story. Pathetic really.

  3. Craig Calcaterra - Aug 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Whether you like it or not, the convention of players answering to reporters is a fact of life. A century-old fact of baseball life.

    Whether you like it or not, players are expected to answer questions from the media after games. Especially when they figured big in its outcome, for bad or good.

    Whether you like it or not, players actually do hate it — they legitimately hate it — when they have to answer for one of their teammates who duck out on a task that they all dislike but all have agreed to endure. They have told this to me directly, in fact. They have said it on the record. Almost everyone is aware of this. It is not made up.

    So when a player does duck out, he does legitimately anger his teammates. That, no matter your views on media entitlement, is a fact.

    And Soriano has done it before. He did it again last night. it’s inconsiderate. Not to the press, but to his teammates. And don’t think for a second they don’t see it that way.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 28, 2012 at 5:55 PM

      Expectations are a funny thing huh Craig?
      You have have all the expectations in the world, it doesn’t mean when they are not fulfilled the members of the media need to go off like a woman scorned.

      And how about you give some quotes and specifics rather than say that you know for a fact that it “legitimately angers his teammates”

      And why is it inconsiderate to his teammates Craig? Because fool reporters and media types stupidly run to another man asking him what was on someone else’s mind?
      And that stupidity is Soriano’s fault?

      Reporters piss off a ballplayers teammates by asking unanswerable questions because they don’t get what they want from Soriano is what happens, and somehow, Soriano’s fault. Because some media members can’t walk away and accept the fact that they are not getting good copy.

      • Craig Calcaterra - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM

        Specifics, ok. For one thing, players have told me this specifically. I won’t say names because they were not on the record at the time, but during spring training I made a point to ask several players about how they interact with the media, what makes them mad, what parts do the fans not see, etc. I did it mostly for my own understanding of the process — not to print what they said — but a good three or four players told me that they don’t like answering for other players.

        But if you don’t take my word for it, how about Billy Wagner and the Mets? This from 2008 in the New York Times:

        “On Thursday, his targets were a bank of empty Mets lockers across from his, lockers whose occupants had already departed for the day after the team’s dispiriting 1-0 loss to the Washington Nationals. “Can somebody tell me why the closer’s being interviewed and I didn’t even play?” Wagner said. “Why they’re over there not getting interviewed? I get it. They’re gone. Shocker.”

        Wagner’s anger, and gestures, seemed to be particularly directed at the locker of Carlos Delgado, who lined into a double play to end the game. Delgado, who has not been much of a Mets voice in his three seasons in New York despite his veteran status and who has been booed often in 2008, left Shea Stadium on Thursday before reporters ever had a chance to interview him.

        For the angry Wagner, the issue was accountability, and in raising it he was echoing a complaint made last year by Paul Lo Duca, when he was the Mets’ catcher. At that time, Lo Duca suggested that reporters seek out some of the Mets’ Hispanic players for comments instead of continually coming to him.”

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/sports/baseball/16wagner.html

        Players hate talking to the media as it is. They hate it even more when they have to answer for their absent teammates.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM

        Again, they hate whenthe media pester them with unanswerable questions about a teammate.

        That’s the disconnect here, you seem to think that the practice of a reporter running to his teammates and asking questions they can’t possibly answer is a guy like Soriano’s fault.
        It isn’t, it’s the media failing to accept that they are not getting what they want.
        Is it Soriano’s fault that the media can’t accept being able to get good copy, that they try to bother one of his teammates?

        This reflects on the media, not the player. The media’s belief that it is their right to get answers from a pro when they want it.

        You say “They have to answer for their absent teammates”
        They don’t have to answer, they just get asked to answer questions from a entitled media members who can’t ask the only person who can properly answer their questions.

        And when they don’t get it their way, they create a story about how bad it is that their (meaningless to the Yankees) questions were not answered.

      • Craig Calcaterra - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:00 PM

        You seem to be very certain of what’s in a player’s head, and hearing what players have to say about it (i.e. Billy Wagner being angry at his teammates, not the media) or what people who have talked to players have heard (i.e. what players have told me and other reporters on countless occasions) doesn’t seem to be dissuade you.

        Fine, if you want to believe something like it’s religion and want to ignore the only tangible evidence we have of players’ views on the matter, be my guest.

        But it would be swell if you were able to provide a single bit of evidence to support your views of what players think on the matter beyond your mere assertion.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:11 PM

        You seem to be stuck on this idea that I get that teammates are bothered by this. You also are completely failing to understand that if the media, just accepted they are not going to get the answers the want from the player in question AND their teammates. Those upset teammates would never get upset in the first place.

        Step 1 Player A is not making himself available to answer questions.
        Step 2 Player A’s teammates are unable to read minds and answer the questions being asked.
        Why is the media getting to step 2? Constantly?

        Either they are Stupid
        Or
        Attempting to punish

        Hey Craig, Gleeman isn’t here but I’m going to ask you how you how he felt on his date last weekend.

        Ya that would be bothersome, Gleeman is an unprofessional and a bad co-worker right?

        And quite frankly, you throwing some blanket religion crack on your failures to understand this simple point is sad.

      • Craig Calcaterra - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:18 PM

        You portray a world that does not exist. The players know the media is going to ask questions after the game. It’s the media’s job. The players, though they don’t find the process enjoyable, don’t hold that against the media unless the media are being dicks. They know that the questions are going to be asked. It’s been that way for a century.

        And they don’t get mad at the media. They don’t think the media should go home and not ask. They think their teammates should be there to answer them. Maybe that’s weird and wrong. Maybe if you ran the world it wouldn’t work that way, but it’s how it is.

        It’s not the end of the world, but the Yankees in that clubhouse last night were annoyed with Soriano. If you choose not to believe that fine. Just know that you’re wrong. If you insist on claiming that it shouldn’t be that way, great, just know that such an insistence is divorces from the current reality.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:50 AM

        Id like you to answer me this question Craig. What would you have asked Robinson Cano about Sorinao after the game? What type of answer would you have expected? See I’d like to think that you’re a smart guy, and that if you didn’t get your answers from Soriano, you wouldn’t bother trying to get any from Cano.

        That’s me having to high “expectations of you”?
        LOL
        You’re part of the media man, shilling, just admit it

      • Craig Calcaterra - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:25 PM

        And just to be clear: your example of me answering for Gleeman is irrelevant. Gleeman and I don’t work a job where it’s expected that anyone is going to be asking us about our personal lives. Baseball players, in contrast, expect that. It’s part of their job. They are trained in it and told by their employers that it is part of the deal.

        And the media is not either stupid or punishing. They’re doing their job too. It is their job to have someone from the team explain to them what happened in the game. It’s been that way forever.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

        LOL There’s that word again, Expected.
        Last thing Ill say as we agree to disagree.
        When Soriano is paid to work in the media and not by the Yankees, only then will I consider it unprofessional by him by not meeting the media’s expectations. And it not a problem until the people cutting his checks say so.

        I’ve been interviewed by the media about 7 times in my life, only the final 2 times was it ever just about me. Never once did I blame JS Giguere or Alex Tanguay for the medias silly questions about the thoughts and feelings about another player.

    • tom1954 - Aug 28, 2012 at 6:28 PM

      I have to give Craig a thumbs up on his response. You may not agree with him or the rules that require players to speak, but the fact he answered a criticism rather than not posting your criticism or banning you from the site like the sensitive children at PFT would do makes him aces in my book.

    • bbil2012 - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:43 PM

      That’s all very easy to understand Craig.
      From this I will assume that The Captain or another player will speak to Mr. Soriano and advise him of his obligation.
      What I wonder is why is this so one-way? When T.J. Slimers angers the players to the point where they will not feel like being exactly cooperative with the media, why aren’t his fellow media members putting a stop to that?It must cause them some problems. So- persuade him to stop. Like the players poilce the team.

    • anxovies - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM

      My guess is that the emotion that the teammates are experiencing is remorse that they had not been smart enough to duck out too. I have never seen a MLB contract but I am guessing that there is nothing in it that requires the player to hang around and get lambasted by inane questions from the press after he has had a lousy game. The press has developed the curious notion that “the public has the right to know.” In fact, no such right exists. The constitution merely guarantees a press free of government interference and does not convey any special powers on the news media to require answers from anybody. If a guy just wants to go home and nurse a bruised ego there is nothing to stop him from doing so. Besides, the fact that he didn’t want to hang around to get beat up by a bunch of reporters is a far better story than any innocuous answers that he would have given in the press conference.

  4. Norcross - Aug 28, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Let’s not forget that in the NFL, the players are *required* to make themselves available to the media after a game. If they don’t wanna talk, just give a Bull Durham string and call it a night.

  5. maynardstool - Aug 28, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    You never really answered my question. I’m not saying players are beyond being criticized.

    I’m saying he doesn’t owe you, me or anyone but his teammates an explanation.

    Baseball to me is a unique sport where the best in the world fail 70% of the time. If he doesn’t answer your questions you can hold your own grudge. To me calling him out in this forum is bush league journalism at best.

    But hey it’s your house, do what you want.

  6. protectthishouse54 - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Yes, Soriano pulled this last year as well. They play 162 games. For some reason, I find it hard to believe that all the guys in the clubhouse are going to get butt hurt over having to cover for a guy once a year. I cover for people at my job all the time. Things happen. Especially after he is clearly showing his frustration with letting down his team and blowing the save. If it happened all the time, his teammates have a right to be pissed. Otherwise, this is mostly the media’s problem.

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