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Yankees GM Brian Cashman ‘not surprised’ Melky, Colon tested positive

Aug 28, 2012, 9:21 PM EDT

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Speaking Tuesday on ESPN New York, Yankees GM Brian Cashman said he was “not surprised” about the positive PED tests for Melky Cabrera and Bartolo Colon.

ESPNNewYork.com’s Andrew Marchand has the quotes:

“In Melky’s case, I think I said in the New York Times article, recently in June, they asked me about him, that when we traded him we had him as (a) low-end, every-day regular or an excellent fourth outfielder,” Cashman said. “And that shows where we thought his ceiling was. As you know, he was starting for us in the World Series, but we had him as a low-end, every-day guy, not a National League MVP candidate. So I wasn’t surprised.”

Because I’m usually really good at evaluating talent, you know.

“You see some spike in performance, you know,” Cashman said. “You hope it is not the case. You scratch your head and you wonder at the same time. But then you sit there and get a comfort level. Tests are taking place, but then over time when those tests fail, like they did. I think whenever you see someone, in Bartolo’s case, as well as he has done last year and then, as well, coming back this year, at his age, after coming back from this surgery, makes you scratch your head.”

Considering how many Yankees have experienced performance spikes and seemingly defied usual aging patterns, it’s no wonder Cashman spends so much time scratching his head.

  1. ningenito78 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Nah bro. He has lice.

    • deathmonkey41 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM

      He should get an ape then and name him Bucky Bleeping Chimp.

  2. gbar22 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    Ahem Jeter scratching my head

    • errorcard - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:56 PM

      Jeter has been an elite player for most of his career. He is having a good year but this can’t remotely be compared to a Bonds-like spike in numbers. His OPS this year is lower than his career OPS! So come up with some evidence beyond a decent batting average or stop throwing around slanderous accusations.

      Melky and Colon have mostly been mediocre. It’s absolutely disgusting that PED speculation (by idiots) needs to arise whenever a veteran star has a good season.

      • bigleagues - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:34 PM

        Uhhhmmm, what?

        Why do people assume that there needs to be a “Bonds-like spike in numbers” if a player is taking some sort of PED. Not every PED is the same. They don’t all increase strength, per se.

        I do agree with you, however, that an advanced aged veteran is not automatically indicative of PED usage. In Jeter’s case, he is doing nothing this season in terms of performance that he hasn’t done in years before. People are pointing to his HR total (ok, Bayless did), which is ludicrous as HR’s are up all around the game, due to a number of factors . . . not the least of which has been the warmer weather.

        Now Carlos Ruiz, on the other hand . . .

      • bigharold - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM

        “So come up with some evidence …”

        Are you sure you know how things work around here?

      • deadeyedesign23 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

        I’m not one who thinks Jeter is juicing, but he has every right to throw around as many slanderous accusations as he wants. It’s what the media was either too stupid or too scared to do in 1998. I was a 14 year old Cub fan in 98 and I knew THEN that they were on steroids and every time Sosa came up I was praying for a double.

        Do I think Jeter is juicing? No. But there are players who I have no doubt in my mind are using. “Oh but you can’t say that if you don’t have proof” Watch me. Jose Bautista is absolutely on steroids.

      • nixonotis - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:06 AM

        bigleagues, you don’t have to have a “Bonds-like spike in numbers” to be accused of PEDs, that’s for sure. All I ask is that anyone accusing anyone else of wrongdoing has some form of evidence. Mere conjecture is nothing more than bullshit.

    • Kleinz 57 - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:44 AM

      Can we please not fight? The more we do, the more Skip Bayless wins.

  3. bloodysock - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    It’s certainly better than scratching what the players are known for scratching.

    • Old Gator - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM

      Didn’t Cashman have some strange scratching those for him until recently?

  4. orangecisco - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    I mean were you surprised? To me it was more of an ‘of course he is’ moment. He was chubby and lazy as a yank. Next up to pee in the cup should be Aceves…

    • bloodysock - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:35 PM

      That’s the next former Yankee you single out? Aceves’ issues are mental. His elevator doesn’t go all the way to the top.

      • lazlosother - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM

        Not to mention his performance has sucked.

      • orangecisco - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:38 AM

        Yes, That’s the guy. He was soft and out of shape as a Yank. Part of the reason they didn’t sign him was because they didn’t trust his back. Now? He’s ripped. Looks like a different guy. Sound familiar?

  5. Ben - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    I really would be genuinely curious to know what teams know, or what they suspect about their own players, and how that’s discussed internally.

    • nixonotis - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:08 AM

      I would guess that they know it all and Cashman’s statement about not being surprised is directly related to the reason why they let Bartolo move on. There is not a GM, manager, teammate, or owner in this league that isn’t involved, be it passively or actively, in the proliferation of the steroid culture.

      • Ben - Aug 29, 2012 at 2:24 AM

        I think that’s probably true, although I think I’d probably be more equivocal. The Giants, for example, have a vested interest in not having one of their stars test positive during a playoff drive, so I wonder how that involvement, active or passive, manifests itself.

  6. paperlions - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    Yeah, well, they cut Carlos Pena loose, so they must have thought we wasn’t an MLB player and he seems to have had a nice career. Is Cashman saying that every time a player out performs your evaluation he must be using PEDs? Because that’s pretty lame/stupid/irresponsible/dumb.

    • raysfan1 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:10 PM

      They can have Pena back now.

    • dirtyharry1971 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM

      How is Pena having a nice career? His average is horrible and his strikeouts are off the charts. he should be playing for the jays if he hit fewer HR’s

      • paperlions - Aug 29, 2012 at 7:25 AM

        Yes, those are the only things that matter, BA and strikeouts….are you still in the 50’s?

  7. ningenito78 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    I wonder what he thinks about Jose Bautista. The league should take notice of what Victor Conte said last week instead of blowing him off like he’s just a disgruntled bomb thrower. That’s what everybody used to say about Jose Canseco….

  8. rich7041 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    Other than Granderson (who became more of a power hitter after K-Long tweaked his swing) who on the Yankees has experienced a spike in performance? And Jeter is having a renaissance year, but still only worth 2.0 fWAR. Hits waaay too many ground balls, but has a relatively high BABIP (almost .350.)

  9. johnnyb1976 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    Damn Mexican steroids.

  10. bozosforall - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Test any of the Roid Sox who are hitting well this year and watch the positive results pile up. Cody Ross and David Roidtiz are definitely on the juice this year.

    • teaspoon1731 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:32 PM

      Ortiz started this season smaller than he’s been in years. So yeah, definitely on roids. Totally makes sense.

      • bozosforall - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

        Started hitting a ton this season, then succumbed to a PED-type injury. So yeah, definitely on roids. Totally makes sense.

      • teaspoon1731 - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:18 AM

        #1 you dont get smaller on roids (please see bonds and mcguire at the beginning and ends of their careers)
        #2 he’s a DH, he usually hits tons. he’s not some bench player who never hits for power.
        #3 he’s 36 and has an achilles injury. flexibility decreases with age making everyone more prone to this sort of injury.
        #4 why do i bother trying to speak logic to haters?

  11. 49ersgiants4life - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    Possibly the worst talent evaluator in a major league front office all he has to do is wait for a player to become a star then buy them he has the easiest job in baseball

    • lazlosother - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:08 PM

      Right. This explains the Swisher trade, when no one else wanted him. Robinson Canoe, Brett Gardner, the Granderson trade, Joba, Hughes, Phelps, Jones, Ibanez, Chavez, Colon, Garcia, etc.

      Cashman is good. He says some remarkably stupid things sometimes, as evidenced in the above post, but he is a good GM.

      • amartland - Aug 29, 2012 at 8:58 AM

        Robinson Canoe might be the greatest misspelled name of all time. My Wednesday morning thanks you for that.

    • bozosforall - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:09 PM

      Says the SF Giants fans whose GM got suckered into trading for that PED taking former Yankee reject Cabrera. Cashman is certainly a better talent evaluator than your team’s GM, given that he has consistently brought in low budget players to fill out his roster, players that have been very productive for the Yankees over the last several years.

      • tbk201 - Aug 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

        Right, I’m truly blown away by all that great starting pitching Cashman has spotted and developed over the past 15 years.

        The only title the man’s won since 2000 (after which most of the players he inherited had left) was in 2009 after his baseball acumen (and half a billion dollars) brought in Sabathia, Burnett and Texeira.

        And suckered? The Giants dumped their worst starting pitcher in the trade and the guy has barely been hears from since

      • bozosforall - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM

        One more title than most other GMs in that same time span…and no different than the Red Sox buying their only two titles in the last 100 years. Cashman has accomplished more than your sorry armchair ass ever will in your miserable life.

  12. davearnone - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Cashman’s comments about performance spikes speaks directly to the Ryan Braun case and his innocence. Braun had been building toward a MVP award for years. This year he leads the NL in HR and RBI and may win another MVP.

    • elgorditodehumboldt - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:55 AM

      No way in hell that Braun wins the MVP this year or ever again for that matter. His career will be forever tainted from this point forward.

  13. drewzducks - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    After conferring with former Yankee world series share recipient Brian McNamee, Cashman stated that he was not surprised by the results of these two former Yankees. He had no comment on current Yankees Alex Rodriguez or Andy Pettitte nor did he care to opine on former Yankees Roger Clemens, Chad Curtis, Chuck Knoblauch, Jason Grimsley, Jose Canseco and Jason Giambi.

    • anxovies - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

      If ARod and Petitte are on the juice then Cashman needs to find them a better supplier. Both have been on the DL for months this year. And ARod is now a .270 hitter with occasional power. Maybe Melke’s guy could help out.

  14. romoscollarbone - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    To the guy that said Colon was overall mediocre, you need to reevaluate, dude threw smoke back in the early 2000s, Cy Young winner, strikeout leader, etc….Melky yes, nothing more than a 4th outfielder.

    • badintent - Aug 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

      Half my gym uses roids, the other half has switched to HGH because their doctor told them their kidneys and /or liver was getting ready to shut down. Roids guys get massive, when they changed to HGH, they get smaller, but ripped and don’t lose much strength.I’m on juice, orange juice, grape juice, carrot juice, celery juice, etc.No whey power, the price is gotten too high.

  15. jonirocit - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Hey the giants got a good first half outta him before he got popped . Wait till one of your players piss dirty y’all won’t be scratching your head so much .

  16. smcgaels1997 - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    How did this goob have a mistress….

    • ugglasforearms - Aug 29, 2012 at 6:01 AM

      Having money makes up for a lot of other stuff.

    • anxovies - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:31 AM

      Fatal attraction, I guess.

  17. vallewho - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:39 AM

    i cheated on my wife with that…. (real head-scratcher)

  18. gbar22 - Aug 29, 2012 at 5:06 AM

    To the idiots who claim Colon has mostly been mediocre through his career um this is a man who has a cy young fyi. It’s merely a renaissance year as you all would love to believe

  19. airedale1950 - Aug 29, 2012 at 6:17 AM

    Pouliot, why don’t you grow a pair, and just come out and accuse players by name?
    Stupid suppositions, innuendos and veiled references without proof a douche bag do make.
    Now come over here and get fitted for your new nozzle bag-boy.

  20. anxovies - Aug 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    tbk201: “Right, I’m truly blown away by all that great starting pitching Cashman has spotted and developed over the past 15 years…..” Your jealousy is crippling your brain. Try counting the number of WS appearances and division championships in those 15 years and compare them to the performance of whatever flea-bag team you support. Instead of grabbing the money for a short gain the Yankees owners have put it back into the team and the fans have responded by showing up. The team and YES are now worth about $4 Billion. The owner of your team probably has used any success in selling tickets to buy a yacht or a house in Aspen and is now looking for buyers for the team so he can pay off his loans. You don’r buy championships and fan loyalty, you earn them.

    • tbk201 - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM

      Jealous of what? I’m actually a Giants fan and, despite previous issues with Sabean over the years and not as much post-season success, I am content that the 2010 World Series championship was accomplished on the backs of a homegrown pitching staff, stud catcher and closer.

      And since when were world series appearances and playoff appearances acceptable to Yankee fans? I thought it was World Series titles or bust?

      All fans are fickle when it comes to attendance, I remember the old Yankee Stadium being half-full in the late 80s/early 90s when the team stunk. And when the baby Steinbrenner induced austerity kicks in and the Yankees aren’t winning as much, see how many fans actually stick around.

      As to money being put back into the franchise, the Giants are trying out every ridiculous promotion they can think of to put money back into the franchise. They do this mostly to service the debt on their privately built stadium. Perhaps if the Giants had fleeced the taxpayers of $1.5 billion for their ballpark, they would have more money available. So it goes.

  21. elgorditodehumboldt - Aug 29, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Two players I wouldn’t be surprised if they tested positive for PED’s in the near future: Joey Bautista and Edwin Encarnacion. They must have some good stuff up there in Canada.

    • 18thstreet - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:40 PM

      I agree. Also, I believe them to be witches and communists.

      Now, all I need is proof.

  22. sharkcity408 - Aug 29, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    If we are talking about cheaters from yanks y not mention A-Rods cheating ass

    • 18thstreet - Aug 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      Why is this the first I’m hearing of this? Is it because I live in a cave?

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