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Jimmy Rollins gets benched for not running out a popup

Aug 30, 2012, 2:54 PM EDT

Jimmy Rollins AP

At least it seems that way.

A couple weeks ago, Jimmy Rollins got in hot water with Charlie Manuel over not running out a ground ball.  A few minutes ago, he just got into hot water over lack of hustle again. Although this was a bit different.

One out, bottom of the sixth, and the Phillies beating the Mets 3-2.  Rollins comes to the plate and pops to Jon Niese. Except Niese drops it.  Rollins was safe at first but he was definitely just jogging leisurely. He probably could have made second on a straight run.  Rollins stole second before the inning ended. Afterwards some words, though not angry ones, were exchanged with Charlie Manuel in the dugout and then Rollins was benched.

Given the lack of a big argument you sorta figure that Manuel told Rollins he’d have a zero tolerance policy on him not running balls out and Rollins knew he didn’t do it. Indeed, the Mets announcers suggested that Rollins stole second because he knew he should have been there to begin with.

That said, ask yourself the last time you saw a guy truly run out a popup to the pitcher. Yeah, me neither. But Rollins is under the HustleScope way more than any other established star in baseball, it seems.

  1. dclogicatlast - Aug 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    He’s not a star, so that last sentence is moot.

    • frenchysplatediscipline - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

      Sure is paid like a star…

    • delawarephilliesfan - Aug 30, 2012 at 7:10 PM

      To the 53 (and counting) people who thumbs downed this statement, why did no one slam this fastball out of the park?

      3x All Star, 3 Gold Gloves, NL MVP and one of only 4 players ever to have 20 Doubles, Triples Homers and steals in a year

      • nativetexan2012 - Aug 31, 2012 at 5:14 PM

        His record is not the issue. This is not something that has happened once or twice. It’s become a pattern. I thought Manuel waited longer than he should have to call him out on it. The fact that he didn’t get the message indicates his lack of respect for Manuel, the fans, and his teammates. Stats are great, but they don’t win ballgames. You can’t live on your reputation. He needs to step it up or make way for someone who wants to play the game like it should be played.

      • delawarephilliesfan - Aug 31, 2012 at 7:46 PM

        errrrr….I think you missed my point. The stats were to show that he is a star, which the OP said he was not. I totally agree on benching him

  2. dondada10 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    It wasn’t even his only instance of not hustling in this game. He was caught flat-footed on second and caught in a run-down earlier in the game.

    • illadelphiasphinest - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM

      In fact he was caught flat footed right after he stole second base after not running out the pop up. So in theory Jimmy made two outs in the same inning with his lack of hustle.

  3. qacm - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    I’ve seen plenty of big leaguers run out popups. It’s all about showing respect for the game. Please don’t make excuses for players who really should know better.

    • paperlions - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM

      It isn’t at all about showing respect for the game…it is about taking advantage of your opponents mistakes. If you hustle, a dropped popup has you on 2B. If you hustle, a bobbled ball has you on 1B. None of it has to do with respect, it has to do with not giving your opponents anything and maximizing your opportunities.

  4. fthrvic - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    I’d argue that any player should be running out any ball in play for the pitcher. We’ve all seen how well that can go when pitchers are doing something other than trying to throw the ball over the plate!

    • Francisco (FC) - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:03 PM

      Unless it’s Cliff Lee…

  5. schlom - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Craig, are you sure he didn’t hustle? Because this sounds like racism to be as I learned from The Atlantic.

  6. qacm - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    I agree with Carlton Fisk.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-24/sports/sp-378_1_yankee-pride

    • natstowngreg - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

      Carlton Fisk sticking up for playing baseball the right way. It has a certain timeless quality.

  7. randygnyc - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    The mets ought to bench someone, either wright or Davis for their effort, too, on that very same play.

    • dondada10 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:22 PM

      Yeah.

  8. ryanrockzzz - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    If you watch more then 10 Phillies games for each of the last two years, you see that Jimmy Rollins just has a lazy approach to the game in general. All these national guys want to defend him, but Jimmy was much better back when he was hungry for success. He doesn’t adjust his swing, and his defense is the only reason he should even start in this league. Now it seems like he’s just going through the motions out there and that’s exactly what’s wrong the Phillies this year.

    • natslady - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

      I don’t see it that way. What’s wrong with the Phillies this year was a lot of injuries. Now the team is pretty much at full strength and playing pretty well (they just swept the Nats). Maybe they are “going through the motions” playing the Mets. Maybe.

      • keithbangedyermom - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

        Yeah, it had nothing to do with age at all. That’s one young team right there with tons of good young talent.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM

      For Christs sake, look at Jimmy Rollins’ numbers in comparison to other SS’s then tell me he only starts because of his glove. For what seems like the 100th time, the problem with Rollins is he isn’t a lead off hitter. He should be batting 7th.

  9. natslady - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    So Cholly benches Rollins in a 1-run game? Shades of the Red Sox, never mind, um, trying to win the game. Look, if you have a better player than Rollins, then start him. If you don’t, then Rollins plays and you fine him later. The middle of a game is not the moment for, er, punishment.

    • kneary47 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

      fines don’t do anything to players making that much money. There are only two things that gets to Rollins. Benching him for not hustling and dropping him in the order.

      • natslady - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:35 PM

        OK, maybe money means little to a guy at his pay scale but if a guy isn’t motivated, how does benching him or dropping him in the order motivate him? I mean, he’s just getting to sit his “lazy” butt on the bench, right? Doesn’t seem logical to me.

      • leerosenthall - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

        @natslady-

        Think of it as a form of public shaming. Sometimes that’s the only thing that works with these self-satisfied guys.

        I love Jimmy, but on that play he let down his teammates and a manager who must be tired of having to defend his shortstop’s lack of hustle running out plays.

      • natslady - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:28 PM

        @leerosenthall, okay, I guess that could work. Or maybe setting an example for rookies in the clubhouse… Still, it seems like Rollins got tagged with the “no hustle” label a couple of weeks ago (?) and here it is again. So either he’s not motivated or he’s tired/hurt. Seems to me that “public shaming” would only increase his resentment. But, although I have actually watched WAY more than 10 Philly games over the last two years, I can’t speak to clubhouse dynamics.

      • leerosenthall - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

        @natslady, but see it isn’t a new thing with Jimmy, and it surely didn’t just start a “few weeks ago”:

        http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/dailypitch/2008-06-06-rollins-hustle_N.htm

        Charlie needed to reassert some authority in that clubhouse, IMHO, especially with all the new guys working their asses off to make the team next season.

      • Francisco (FC) - Aug 30, 2012 at 6:17 PM

        I just think at this point it’s Jimmy-Charlie thing. Kind of like Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football.

      • natslady - Aug 30, 2012 at 6:24 PM

        LOL!! Wow, so Charlie has been trying the same method to motivate Rollins since 2008?????? And it’s still not working???? Gee, definition of insanity and all that…

    • chadjones27 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

      How do you fine a player for not running out a pop-up?

      • greymares - Aug 31, 2012 at 10:44 AM

        it should be easy when you have 2 rules be on time and HUSTLE.

    • delawarephilliesfan - Aug 30, 2012 at 7:16 PM

      @natslady – to your oringial post, Charlie has two rules: Hustle and be on time. You don’t do it, you don’t play. The punishment is being benched – that is the rule, always has been. So if Charlie doesn’t take Rollins out of the game, he breaks his own rules.

      He benched Rollins twice in 2008, and that worked out just fine.

  10. sisqsage - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    He’s not a star?

    He was the MVP of the whole friggin’ league a few years ago and a major reason why the Phils won the Series.

    And this is coming from a Giants fan who has marvelled at the talent on the Philly roster the last few years. Philly scared the crap out of me in the 2010 NL champ series.

    The Phils are actually my second fave team in the NL because of the talent on the roster, the Giles family tradition, the Mike Schmidt legacy when I was a kid, and the ballpark atmosphere there. Hardcore all the way – the way it should be.

    • natstowngreg - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

      Once, Jimmy Rollins was a star. Now, he is not.

      • delawarephilliesfan - Aug 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

        Oh. So……if Michael Martinez was benched, you would jump on and reply to this topic?

    • Eberwizzle - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM

      Ummmmmm……how do you have a second favorite team? Just curious.

  11. randygnyc - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    The phillies aren’t actually playing for anything but pride and dignity. The outcome of this particular game is insignificant. Bravo to Charlie for putting the principles of the game ahead of the ego of Rollins. I’m sure the younger players on the bench learned what Charlie was teaching.

  12. dwrek5 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    I think the worst at this is easily Pujol’s. Sometimes I wonder why he even bothered moving at all.

    • natstowngreg - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM

      That’s a bit unfair. For a good chunk of last season, he didn’t run things out because of a leg injury. Now, if he’s better and he still isn’t running things out, it’s fair to criticize him.

  13. phillyphann83 - Aug 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    your such a joke CC, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY he could have made it to second safely, only Willie Mays Hays coulda done that(because he’s a FICTIONAL character!)

    • ptfu - Aug 31, 2012 at 12:25 AM

      Willie Mays Hayes would be doing 20 push-ups in the batters box, because he just popped up to the pitcher. He’d never make it to first, let alone second.

  14. xmatt0926x - Aug 30, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    The problem when you look at this situation is when you look at the current incident and judge the benching on that. Non-Phillies fans who don’t watch the team on a regular basis just won’t have the correct perspective formed by several of these things happening with Jimmy. It’s like a couple weeks ago when Jimmy got in trouble. Everyone on here talked about the lack of hustle running down the line but had no idea that in that same game he also got in trouble with Charlie for not even attempting to break up a double play. But after that game on HBT all you see is a quick story about not running out a grounder and everyone going into the usual “nobody runs out ground balls” defense. I’m not totally against Jimmy on these issues (although the non-double play breakup was horrible). I think the real problem is that it happened a few years ago and a big deal was made of it with the media and Charlie so now every time Jimmy does something like this it’s highlighted as opposed to a bench guy doing the same thing. Another lessor part of this is that Jimmy just suffers in comparison to Utley who right or wrong, runs like his hair is on fire no matter how obvious it is that it’s just going to be a routine out.

    • xmatt0926x - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM

      One more thing. Let’s face it. A big part of the problem is that Jimmy is now a .240 hitter to go along with the lack of hustle which makes it look worse than it is. Even the announcers sigh now when he continually pops up in the infield.

  15. fissels - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    Way to go Charlie Manuel. Rollins and every other big leaguer should be giving 100% all the time. They are certainly paid well. The fans don’t pay to see anyone play lazy.

  16. dino1730 - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    I’m not defending his lack of hustle here, but he would’ve needed a rocket up his crapper to get to second on that.

  17. chucklewis13 - Aug 30, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    Rollins has a history of not hustling and getting benched over the past two-three years. Maybe if the Yankees give Robbie Cano the same treatment, it may make him a better player. Right now, the Yankees are enabling him by not benching him for his last of hustle.

    • Francisco (FC) - Aug 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM

      Maybe if the Yankees give Robbie Cano the same treatment, it may make him a better player.

      I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Is Rollins better now (overall) than 2-3 years ago?

  18. phillyphann83 - Aug 30, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Wow, no props for the Willie Mays Hays reference??

    • dino1730 - Aug 30, 2012 at 8:59 PM

      Ha, sorry dude, overlooked that. Nice one.

      • phillyphann83 - Aug 31, 2012 at 5:26 PM

        looks like youre my only thumbs up too, buncha haters here

  19. dannythebisforbeast - Aug 31, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Don’t bench jimmy pop up make him play and bat 7th where he should be. It clear he will never adjust to lead off and now that he can’t rip the ball all over the field he’s a very expensive glove. He was great but signing him was bad for the team in the long run. He’s not going to come anywhere near his past performance. Book it

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