Comments on: Why Roger Clemens is going to pitch for the Astros

By: pjmarn6

pjmarn6 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 08:05:18 +0000

stlouis1baseball You mean to have ethics and morals and know right from wrong has to regulated in order for people to have those qualities? If it wasn’t against the law to kill, it would be alright to go out on the street and blast away because there were no laws against it?

Baseball knows about cheating. Scuffing up a baseball, putting a little Vaseline on the ball is legal? Or a corked bat? Is that legal too? See baseball knows what was illegal until it decided to turn away from juiced players and pretend it didn’t exist………solely for the MONEY!

Selig is a money in a circus. And all the managers, players and owners who ignored what was going on for the MONEY!

Asses in the seats, huge cable tv contracts, $1500 seats at ball games. Radio broadcasts filled with hundreds of advertisement, I just turn it off. Completely ridiculous.

I remember that famous picture of A-Rod with Warren Buffet at the ball park talking investing A-Rods millions. The whole fucking thing is about MONEY. There is no more baseball.

By: pjmarn6

pjmarn6 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:50:08 +0000

Hey I want to know is he going to be drug tested after the game?

Go back in history and look at all the pitchers……………their prime ends at 35.

By: pjmarn6

pjmarn6 — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:46:08 +0000

Can I wring out my hankie now? What sop! He used drugs, cheated and made millions. Now he wants to assuage his ego? What bull shit! Get him and Armstrong and the other cheaters and put them on a bus back to Iowa.
You mean to say that you want Clemens to have a SWAN SONG AS A GOOD EXAMPLE TO EVERYONE THAT CHEATING IS CONDONED?

HE WON’T HAVE GOTTEN HALF THIS FAR IF HE DIDN’T JUICE UP! And you cry about a swan song. Big business, in this case wants to fill empty seats in the stadium and beer and hotdogs. How much more are they going to charge tv and radio to broadcast that game?
BOOBIE it is all about MONEY! And nothing else.

By: electstat

electstat — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:44:03 +0000

You don’t know he didn’t. Steroids were created in the 1800s and even Olympians were using in the 1950s

By: electstat

electstat — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:42:04 +0000

Since Tom House admitted to using during his career in the early 70s and said that they were all over when he was in the minors in the 60s, I guess you have a lot of player to hate. Good thing we don’t have Hank’s blood around from his playing days to test. And before you make the lazy response of Hanks body compared to the players in the 90s – remember that players today work out all year long, players back in the 70s and before had real jobs during the off season.

By: delawarephilliesfan

delawarephilliesfan — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:45:05 +0000

There actually is precedent here – in 1990 Minnie Minoso at age 63 wanted to play a game for the White Sox to get his 6th decade in. The commish shot it down, saying that there had to be a legitimate baseball reason for signing him.

Perhaps there is a semi-legit baseballl reason for signing Clemens, but my point is a “ability to earn a living argument” would fall flat, as the commisioner has precedent to point to that they don’t allow side shows, and that in his judgement, this is a side show

By: cosanostra71

cosanostra71 — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:10:21 +0000

I bet you believe that OJ Simpson is innocent too.

By: tashkalucy

tashkalucy — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:44:17 +0000

The entire article is based on a false premise.

Unless Clemens comes back for at least half a season, this will be forgotten.

Like when Minnie Minoso and Satchel Paige came back for a game. It was forgotten except for a few like me.

By: johnchesterny

johnchesterny — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:19:59 +0000

Understood. But if Selig truly stands by the Mitchell Report this would be a fight worth fighting.

By: gloccamorra

gloccamorra — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:19:39 +0000

That may be another reason: he blew his retirement stash, er, funds, defending himself in court. That would mean he’d want a contract for next year too.

By: theskinsman

theskinsman — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:19:06 +0000

Roidger is a cheating,lying POS who was among the best. But he’s a 50 year old who still craves the attention.If he is called up by the AA Astros,I hope he gets shelled and slinks back to whatever slimy pit he just came from.

By: TIF

TIF — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:06:09 +0000

Clemens has never cared what the public thought about him when he played. This is the guy who complained about having to carry his own luggage, stated that Fenway Park lacked appropriate amenities, and got special treatment from every team he played for. Clemens’s motivation in pitching for the Astros is clear: he is trying to do everything he can to give himself the best chance to get in the HOF. Being on a different ballot than Bonds and having his last appearance as a player be to a standing ovation will both help his odds.

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:48:05 +0000

I don’t think selig wants to be sued from both Clemens and the players union for denying a player the ability to earn a wage.

By: johnchesterny

johnchesterny — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:27:39 +0000

Selig should invoke Best Interests of Baseball clause here.

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:16:37 +0000

Edit- don’t know how ESPN was autocorrected into Espinoza, lol.

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 20:15:05 +0000

Mazblast- “known proven steroid user”. Holy shit. I don’t know your true identity, but I do know the Feds would love to speak with you. As a favor, before your meeting, please share with us this conclusive evidence you have that proves Clemens used steroids. (I bet Espinoza or sports illustrated would make you a rich man if you shared it with them first).

By: mazblast

mazblast — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:51:38 +0000

Any owner who signs Clemens is an SOB whose team deserves no fandom from any true baseball fan. Any GM who lets an owner override his common sense like that should resign in protest, “Besides marring the reputation of this organization by signing a known, proven steroid user, you also seem to have changed its name to Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey, and I for one refuse to clean up after the elephants.”

By: mazblast

mazblast — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:47:04 +0000

I love it. Make sure the video cameras are there, with a close-up on his face.

By: delawarephilliesfan

delawarephilliesfan — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:55:06 +0000

I agree that this may be Clemens thinking – but “final chapter”? Heck no!

This is a side show unless he make a real come back next year. Sorry, but I can not see the documentary of his life saying “At age 50, he proved he still had it by throwing 4 innings of 4 hit baseball against the Chicago Cubs”. And needless to say, if he is lit up, the whole affair seems pointless.

If all he does is 2 or 3 September starts, this is just a side show, not a final chapter

By: stlouis1baseball

stlouis1baseball — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:37:20 +0000

“So I have to have met someone for me to dislike them for ruining a whole decade of the greatest game ever?”
Ummm…Clemons, Canseco, Bonds, McGwire, Palmeiro, etc… had nothing to do with “ruining a whole decade of the greatest game ever.”
They simply played by the rules as they were enforced during this time period.
MLB (and Bud Selig) however…THEY “ruined a whole decade of the greatest game every played” by turning their heads while balls were flying out of the park at record pace and dudes were swelling up as big as houses. All in the interests of moving the turnstiles.
Blame MLB all you want (I know I do). But your (and everyone else’s) anger towards the players is missplaced.

By: thekcubrats

thekcubrats — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:33:33 +0000

He’s not thinking that 5 years from now will make a difference, but that five years tacked on to the end of his 15 years of voting eligibility might. Might take that long for the vapors from roid hysteria to finally burn off.

And oh yeah, when exactly did he ever have a good haircut? I mean, besides the one that Dave Stewart routinely gave the big puss, back when the Rocket was supposedly originally dominant?

By: sabatimus

sabatimus — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:11:28 +0000

This is just a means of getting him another 5 years of HoF time. I hope he blows his arm out.

By: seattlej

seattlej — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:02:29 +0000

Well, he does know how to spell…

Man, I fuckin’ love irony.

By: lazlosother

lazlosother — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:01:20 +0000

Clemens loves puppies. They taste like chicken.

By: stex52

stex52 — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:57:14 +0000

If you can’t give ‘em baseball, give ‘em a circus sideshow.

And they sure can’t give ‘em baseball.

By: mcs7584

mcs7584 — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:10:44 +0000

His last image might be walking off the mound but regardless will be preceded by all that has happened over the past decade, which is completely relevant to his story and not likely to be omitted from the baseball history books. Pitching two or three innings for a 113-loss team (projected) against a 99-loss team (projected) is hardly “competing,” regardless of age. Whether it’s to reset his HOF clock or somehow restore his image, it’s nothing more than a stunt and I tend not to think very highly of those who exhibit narcissistic behavior.

By: joewilliesshnoz

joewilliesshnoz — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:40:18 +0000

Just what MLB needs, a fat, old cheat, taking a roster spot away from some kid.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:21:39 +0000

Does he still have one of his sons in the Astros system? On the 40 man roster? It would be neat for him to be on the MLB roster with his boy.

I think for a guy like Clemens makinf the HoF on the first ballot is important, and frankly he deserves it. Writers are not really trying to punish Clemens as much as make an example of him and Bonds. After 5 years, all of the examples will have been made, the sports writers will have finished patting themselves on the back for keeping out the guys they lionized in their playing days, and there should be some precedent for ‘roiders getting into the HoF.

By: vegagreenleaf

vegagreenleaf — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:02:53 +0000

If he pitches in the majors again, something is seriously wrong. He’s five years removed from the game and is 50 years old. There have to be better options for the Astros.

By: charlutes

charlutes — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:58:48 +0000

50 year old steroid junky plays for worst team in league. Why is this a story, focus on actually talented, clean baseball players Plz no more lame Roger Clemens in the news.