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UPDATE: John Henry says Bobby V. is safe for the season

Sep 3, 2012, 1:24 PM EDT

Bobby Valentine

UPDATE:  OK, Valentine is safe for the season:

 

October 1, though? Well. Stay tuned.

8: 27 AM: Bobby Valentine:  The Emperor’s coming here?
Larry Lucchino: That is correct, Commander. And, he is most displeased with your apparent lack of progress.
Bobby Valentine: We shall double our efforts.
Larry Lucchino: I hope so, Commander, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.

With the team in tatters on the West Coast — six straight losses, outscored in the six games by an astounding 54-15 — the Boston Herald’s Michael Silverman reported Monday morning that owner John Henry and general manager Ben Cherington have flown to Seattle, where the Sox will begin a three-game series against the Mariners today.

There have been no votes of confidence or anything like that. And there have been no real justifications for one even if there had been. It seems inevitable that Bobby Valentine is a one-and-done manager for the Red Sox, even if what has happened this year cannot be fairly laid at his feet.  He was dropped in to an untenable position to being with in a job unsuited to his strengths.

Still, failure is failure and it’s hard to envision a situation in which Valentine is the manager for this team in 2013.

  1. vallewho - Sep 3, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    tik-tok, tik-tok…

  2. poprox13 - Sep 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Please end the Bobby V era now!!!

  3. paperlions - Sep 3, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    What are Valentine’s strengths as a manager?

    The main part of a manager’s job is managing people, not baseball. He has to be a great communicator, with his players, with the media, and even with the fans. Everyone loves to rip Dusty because he isn’t particularly good at the part of the job that is on display (line up construction, in-game management), but he is fantastic at the rest of it….and the rest matters far more. His players love him everywhere he goes, his GM loves him, he is fantastic at making the group a single unit, at getting guys on board with his plan, and at communicating with guys so that they know what is expected of them (and knowing what is expected of you at work is critical to be content in your job).

  4. hokiegajanisgod - Sep 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Once again, the Boston media tries to inject itself into the Sox’ business…

    …and once again they fail.

    Good for you Bobby. You probably will get the boot in the off-season, but at least the Boston media has failed AGAIN in trying to run you out of town.

    • willclarkgameface - Sep 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM

      Boston media sucks.

      That means you Sean McAdam.

  5. theskinsman - Sep 3, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Pisano, shouldn’t you be paying more attention to Juicin’ Jeter and the Cheaters? I know your man crush on Pedroia is your main mission in life, but seriously, how about the biggest payroll in MLB as CHOKING away the division lead???
    .
    Cheer up, little man, your hero A-Roid is back in time to strike out or pop up with the game on the line. Maybe that will distract you from watching teams with less payroll than the yanks infield beating them.

    • daisycutter1 - Sep 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

      Angry Red Sox fan! Angry Red Sox fan!

    • pisano - Sep 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM

      I understand your pain, if I pulled for a so-called team like Boston I’d be pissy too. It’s a shame your team, that’s just behind the Yankees in payroll ( before they dumped a couple losers) is 10 games below 500. Don’t worry about the Yankees, they’ll be in the playoffs,while your boys will be watching them on tv drinking beer and eating chicken. I’ll bet you can’t wait for the NFL to start next week.

    • mazblast - Sep 6, 2012 at 6:40 PM

      I loathe the Yankees as much as anyone, but since this article has nothing to do with them, I think we should leave them out of the discussion. It’s not always about the Yankees. This is strictly about the Red Sox.

      The Red Sox have won twice as many World Series this century as the Yankees, so stop obsessing.

  6. baseballbum - Sep 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    The Redsox are no longer worth posting comments about – until something is done. New Manager , Power hitter plus Papi and top of rotation starter. That will do the trick. Until then, see you further down the road…….

  7. randygnyc - Sep 3, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    If Larry really wanted to show the players who’s boss, he should sign Valentine to an extension.

    • bw1980 - Sep 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM

      So true, because everybody knows that cutting off your nose to spite your face is not actually meant to single doing something stupid to prove a point in spite of all other considerations, but rather is meant to be advice on how to life life. If you can prove a point, even to your own detriment, prove it.

      • bw1980 - Sep 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM

        Signal–not single.

      • bw1980 - Sep 4, 2012 at 8:55 AM

        Clearly people don’t under stand facetiousness.

  8. futbolhistorian - Sep 3, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    There have been plenty of managers that have been thrust into worse situations, and achieved better results. It’s true that BV has been a put in a tough spot, but taking all that into account, he still underperformed as a manager.

  9. cubsisles72 - Sep 3, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    We want TEK! Perfect disposition, age and knowledge base. Will handle the pitchers… Respected by players, opposing teams and beloved by fan base. What’s the problem?

    • bigleagues - Sep 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

      Who IS we.

      I do not want ‘Tek as manager.

      Beloved as a player who was part of two World Series Championships.

      But as a player who displayed his leadership in non-vocal ways – and apparently had little influence on the sinking ship known as the Sox rotation last September – I’m not sure why he keeps getting brought up.

    • teaspoon1731 - Sep 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

      Zero experience managing a team. That’s your problem.

      • mazblast - Sep 6, 2012 at 6:43 PM

        Yeah, lack of previous managerial experience has certainly killed Robin Ventura and Mike Matheny this year. Managing the Red Sox under the current toxic circumstances (media, players, owners, CEO, emasculated GM) may be another matter, of course.

    • andyoursistertoo - Sep 3, 2012 at 11:39 PM

      Enough pink hatters, Its bad enough he couldn’t hit the ball and your going to have this guy give advice on how to hit to the team ?? If he was really as good as you say he was he should have batted a 1000 because he knew every pitch that was coming to him. He would call a great game for the pitchers but that’s it people. GO back to your cowboy up shirts and 2004 dvds…… Really Varitek is not walking through that door, Pedro is not walking though that door, Nomar is not walking though that door and if they do there going to be old and grey.

      • bw1980 - Sep 4, 2012 at 9:00 AM

        Varitek should not be the manager of any team but the ridiculous complaints about his hitting are foolish. You remind of a pink hatter–while you throw that accusation at others–in that you have this ridiculous expectation that every postion player hit .300 w/ a minimum of 20HR and play gold glove defense. Some positions call for a higher proportion of their contributions to come on the defensive side than the offensive side and catcher is absolutely one of those positions. They’re have been very few good hitting/defensive catchers. You want your cathcer spending his time managing the staff and focusing on other hitters.

  10. xpensivewinos - Sep 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Valentine is certainly not entirely to blame, but he is absolutely not part of the solution. He has shown absolutely zero leadership or interpersonal skills. He’s an arrogant, condescending, passive-agressive narcissist who is obviously more focused on himself than the over all well-being of the team.

    Not to mention, he’s aging in dog years. It looks like he’s aged 20 years in the last six months. The Red Sox better fire him quick before he drops dead.

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