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	<title>Comments on: The latest &#8220;oh noes, Melky can&#8217;t win the batting title!&#8221; column</title>
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		<title>By: jaydoubleyou22</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haha. +1 on the junior-high-debate-club comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. +1 on the junior-high-debate-club comment.</p>
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		<title>By: jaydoubleyou22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaydoubleyou22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may say that the batting title is purely a statistical measure and not an award, but that&#039;s not exactly true. If it is just math with no significance, why does one need to have a minimum number of ABs to &quot;qualify&quot; ??

This article, however, does qualify as bad (and recycled too). It&#039;s like one those really bad Final Destination movies that just keep getting made. 

Please, Craig.. We&#039;ve had enough. Take your soap-box somewhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may say that the batting title is purely a statistical measure and not an award, but that&#8217;s not exactly true. If it is just math with no significance, why does one need to have a minimum number of ABs to &#8220;qualify&#8221; ??</p>
<p>This article, however, does qualify as bad (and recycled too). It&#8217;s like one those really bad Final Destination movies that just keep getting made. </p>
<p>Please, Craig.. We&#8217;ve had enough. Take your soap-box somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: willclarkgameface</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the love of God, please let this happen.  PLEASE LET MELKY WIN.  

I so badly want to see Selig eat crow on this one, probably slowly just like he does everything else.

What is going to set him off to make him actually give a shit about doing REAL TESTING?

Testing in the game right now is a joke and he knows it.  We all know it.

So proclaim with me people, &quot;MEL-KEY!  MEL-KEY!  MEL-KEY!&quot;  Root for this dude on the sidelines and will him to victory much like 1990 NL Batting Champion Willie McGee.  Let&#039;s do this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the love of God, please let this happen.  PLEASE LET MELKY WIN.  </p>
<p>I so badly want to see Selig eat crow on this one, probably slowly just like he does everything else.</p>
<p>What is going to set him off to make him actually give a shit about doing REAL TESTING?</p>
<p>Testing in the game right now is a joke and he knows it.  We all know it.</p>
<p>So proclaim with me people, &#8220;MEL-KEY!  MEL-KEY!  MEL-KEY!&#8221;  Root for this dude on the sidelines and will him to victory much like 1990 NL Batting Champion Willie McGee.  Let&#8217;s do this!</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raysfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The challenge was 2 of the last 10.  Larry Walker won in 2001, so close there but Madlock retired 25 years ago.  Try Barry Bonds and Chipper Jones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge was 2 of the last 10.  Larry Walker won in 2001, so close there but Madlock retired 25 years ago.  Try Barry Bonds and Chipper Jones.</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raysfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not extending a courtesy isn&#039;t adding to a punishment, it&#039;s simply not granting a favor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not extending a courtesy isn&#8217;t adding to a punishment, it&#8217;s simply not granting a favor.</p>
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		<title>By: fuddpucker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fuddpucker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still say the pictures of Melky holding that stupid All-Star bat looks like he&#039;s a wax figure. Prolly all the juice inside his body has pickled him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say the pictures of Melky holding that stupid All-Star bat looks like he&#8217;s a wax figure. Prolly all the juice inside his body has pickled him.</p>
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		<title>By: elmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently we don&#039;t all know that. Maybe &quot;the advanced statistics&quot; you allude to are why Calcaterra&#039;s semantic hair-splitting about title vs award has a little bit of traction here--because it&#039;s a proxy for those who believe advanced stats are a better measure of a player&#039;s performance than good ole batting average. That&#039;s perfectly fine, but it&#039;s irrelevant. For most people, the significance of individual awards is not the ceremony, the plaque, or the oversized check, but because all that stuff is a symbolic recognition of achievement and accomplishment. In this sense, the batting title is, effectively, an award. Despite the lack of hardware. And if MLB wants to de-list or asterisk Melky should he win it, it does have the power to do so. It&#039;s not a metaphysical impossibility. There are some good arguments to be made why Melky shouldn&#039;t be stripped of the batting title, but &quot;ZOMG! the batting title doesn&#039;t really exist!&quot; isn&#039;t one of them. That&#039;s just junior-high-debate-club-level sophistry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently we don&#8217;t all know that. Maybe &#8220;the advanced statistics&#8221; you allude to are why Calcaterra&#8217;s semantic hair-splitting about title vs award has a little bit of traction here&#8211;because it&#8217;s a proxy for those who believe advanced stats are a better measure of a player&#8217;s performance than good ole batting average. That&#8217;s perfectly fine, but it&#8217;s irrelevant. For most people, the significance of individual awards is not the ceremony, the plaque, or the oversized check, but because all that stuff is a symbolic recognition of achievement and accomplishment. In this sense, the batting title is, effectively, an award. Despite the lack of hardware. And if MLB wants to de-list or asterisk Melky should he win it, it does have the power to do so. It&#8217;s not a metaphysical impossibility. There are some good arguments to be made why Melky shouldn&#8217;t be stripped of the batting title, but &#8220;ZOMG! the batting title doesn&#8217;t really exist!&#8221; isn&#8217;t one of them. That&#8217;s just junior-high-debate-club-level sophistry.</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydeserra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but he doesn&#039;t per cots.

my question  is does the CBA allow those types of performance bonuses? I would guess no. I think they can only be games played/ innings etc, not the quality of those games played.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but he doesn&#8217;t per cots.</p>
<p>my question  is does the CBA allow those types of performance bonuses? I would guess no. I think they can only be games played/ innings etc, not the quality of those games played.</p>
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		<title>By: pike573</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pike573]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know that winning the batting titles isn&#039;t just winning random statistical award. However you feel award the advanced statistics, batting titles still hold a lot of prestige and honor. So it means something...

And I don&#039;t get the whole &quot;we can&#039;t take it away&quot; argument. To say that you can&#039;t take away an award (in the sense that it&#039;s an honor, see above) the very same year that someone is caught cheating is just asinine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know that winning the batting titles isn&#8217;t just winning random statistical award. However you feel award the advanced statistics, batting titles still hold a lot of prestige and honor. So it means something&#8230;</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t get the whole &#8220;we can&#8217;t take it away&#8221; argument. To say that you can&#8217;t take away an award (in the sense that it&#8217;s an honor, see above) the very same year that someone is caught cheating is just asinine.</p>
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		<title>By: sophiethegreatdane</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The scene opens on a Pittsburgh Pirates press conference...

Press:  &quot;Andrew!  Andrew!  How does it feel to win the batting title?&quot;

Andrew McCutchen:  &quot;Oh.  I didn&#039;t know I won that.  Thought that Melky character had it wrapped up.&quot;

P:  Well, yes, but we got him disqualified.  We had to make sure Melky didn&#039;t win.

AM:  Thanks, I guess. What do I get?  A commemorative plate?  Bud Selig bobblehead?

P:  No, silly, you won the Batting Title!

AM:  Yeah, but what did I *win*?

P:  Well, there&#039;s no prize per se...but hey!  Batting Title! Ted Williams and all that.

AM:  &quot;Ummm....&quot;

P:  How does it feel knowing that Melky didn&#039;t win it?&quot;

AM:  He had the higher average, correct?  

P:  Yes.  But he cheated.

AM:  Well, we can&#039;t have that.  I&#039;ll take my Title now, where is it?

P:  It&#039;s not a thing.  You can&#039;t &quot;take&quot; it.

AM:  I see.  But the commish is going to come out and give me one of those big fake checks, right?

P:  Um ...the commish...uh...he&#039;s not here, Andrew.

AM:  WHAT?  How could the Commissioner of Baseball not attend the ceremony for one of the most prestigious awards in the sport?

P:  Well, it&#039;s not an actual award, and this really isn&#039;t a ceremony.  There&#039;s actually not ceremony.  This is just kind of a...recognition. Yes!  A recognition.

AM:  Recognition of what?

P:  Having the highest batting average!

AM:  Who, me?  Or Melky?

P:  Well, Melky, yes but he&#039;s disqualified.  You&#039;re the winner!  You&#039;ll be remembered along with greats like Bill Meuller!  

AM:  Who?

P:  Nevermind.

AM:  Me and this Bill guy will have our names on a trophy in Copperstown, right?

P:  Well, not exactly...

AM:  So...help me out. What did I win?

P:  Nothing.  Everything.  The BATTING TITLE!  You know, Ted Williams! Rod Carew! Freddy Sanchez!

AM:  Who?

P:  Nevermind, another bad example.  Congrats!

AM:  I won?

P:  Yes!

AM:  I won an award that&#039;s not actually an award, even though it&#039;s called a Title.  But I get nothing.  And if Melkly would have won, he would have won...nothing?   And now that he didn&#039;t win the award, even though he beat me, he still gets nothing. Which is the same thing that I get?

P:  EXACTLY!  Don&#039;t know why it took so long for you to understand that.

AM:   Me either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scene opens on a Pittsburgh Pirates press conference&#8230;</p>
<p>Press:  &#8220;Andrew!  Andrew!  How does it feel to win the batting title?&#8221;</p>
<p>Andrew McCutchen:  &#8220;Oh.  I didn&#8217;t know I won that.  Thought that Melky character had it wrapped up.&#8221;</p>
<p>P:  Well, yes, but we got him disqualified.  We had to make sure Melky didn&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>AM:  Thanks, I guess. What do I get?  A commemorative plate?  Bud Selig bobblehead?</p>
<p>P:  No, silly, you won the Batting Title!</p>
<p>AM:  Yeah, but what did I *win*?</p>
<p>P:  Well, there&#8217;s no prize per se&#8230;but hey!  Batting Title! Ted Williams and all that.</p>
<p>AM:  &#8220;Ummm&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>P:  How does it feel knowing that Melky didn&#8217;t win it?&#8221;</p>
<p>AM:  He had the higher average, correct?  </p>
<p>P:  Yes.  But he cheated.</p>
<p>AM:  Well, we can&#8217;t have that.  I&#8217;ll take my Title now, where is it?</p>
<p>P:  It&#8217;s not a thing.  You can&#8217;t &#8220;take&#8221; it.</p>
<p>AM:  I see.  But the commish is going to come out and give me one of those big fake checks, right?</p>
<p>P:  Um &#8230;the commish&#8230;uh&#8230;he&#8217;s not here, Andrew.</p>
<p>AM:  WHAT?  How could the Commissioner of Baseball not attend the ceremony for one of the most prestigious awards in the sport?</p>
<p>P:  Well, it&#8217;s not an actual award, and this really isn&#8217;t a ceremony.  There&#8217;s actually not ceremony.  This is just kind of a&#8230;recognition. Yes!  A recognition.</p>
<p>AM:  Recognition of what?</p>
<p>P:  Having the highest batting average!</p>
<p>AM:  Who, me?  Or Melky?</p>
<p>P:  Well, Melky, yes but he&#8217;s disqualified.  You&#8217;re the winner!  You&#8217;ll be remembered along with greats like Bill Meuller!  </p>
<p>AM:  Who?</p>
<p>P:  Nevermind.</p>
<p>AM:  Me and this Bill guy will have our names on a trophy in Copperstown, right?</p>
<p>P:  Well, not exactly&#8230;</p>
<p>AM:  So&#8230;help me out. What did I win?</p>
<p>P:  Nothing.  Everything.  The BATTING TITLE!  You know, Ted Williams! Rod Carew! Freddy Sanchez!</p>
<p>AM:  Who?</p>
<p>P:  Nevermind, another bad example.  Congrats!</p>
<p>AM:  I won?</p>
<p>P:  Yes!</p>
<p>AM:  I won an award that&#8217;s not actually an award, even though it&#8217;s called a Title.  But I get nothing.  And if Melkly would have won, he would have won&#8230;nothing?   And now that he didn&#8217;t win the award, even though he beat me, he still gets nothing. Which is the same thing that I get?</p>
<p>P:  EXACTLY!  Don&#8217;t know why it took so long for you to understand that.</p>
<p>AM:   Me either.</p>
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		<title>By: sophiethegreatdane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sophiethegreatdane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly, my dog would win the K/9 title.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, my dog would win the K/9 title.</p>
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		<title>By: nothanksimdriving123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nothanksimdriving123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, the batting title is not an award, but to pretend it is of no great significance is silly. Read the Hall of Fame plaques of such legends as Carew, Williams and Aaron. They duly note those players&#039; batting titles. Yaz is still honored for his Triple Crown season (duh, the batting title is one-third of that). Until the vast majority agree that Williams batting .406 and McLain winning 31 games and Rickey stealing 131 bases were insignificant statistical who-cares, and erase Carew&#039;s HoF plaque, I&#039;ll still say the batting title is a big deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the batting title is not an award, but to pretend it is of no great significance is silly. Read the Hall of Fame plaques of such legends as Carew, Williams and Aaron. They duly note those players&#8217; batting titles. Yaz is still honored for his Triple Crown season (duh, the batting title is one-third of that). Until the vast majority agree that Williams batting .406 and McLain winning 31 games and Rickey stealing 131 bases were insignificant statistical who-cares, and erase Carew&#8217;s HoF plaque, I&#8217;ll still say the batting title is a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: stevem7</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly Morosi is unhappy with the rules as they currently exist and wishes to change them.  Up to that point he is fine.  Where he goes afoul is Morosi wants the law changed from Jaywalking is a $10 ticket to Jaywalking is a hanging offense and then go and enforce it against everyone who ever got a jaywalking ticket prior to the law being changed.  We don&#039;t work that way in this country.  So Morosi, go and get the law changed/altered/amended/rewritten but understand that at the time of his suspension the Tony Gwynn Rule existed and MUST be applied where Melky or any other individual is concerned until the law is changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Morosi is unhappy with the rules as they currently exist and wishes to change them.  Up to that point he is fine.  Where he goes afoul is Morosi wants the law changed from Jaywalking is a $10 ticket to Jaywalking is a hanging offense and then go and enforce it against everyone who ever got a jaywalking ticket prior to the law being changed.  We don&#8217;t work that way in this country.  So Morosi, go and get the law changed/altered/amended/rewritten but understand that at the time of his suspension the Tony Gwynn Rule existed and MUST be applied where Melky or any other individual is concerned until the law is changed.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 18:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is petty because the punishments for PED use are already outlined, and they don&#039;t include such action (or inaction) as you describe.  The penalty for PED use is 50 games, not 50 games plus anything else we decide to throw at you in our emotional over-reaction to what should be a non-issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is petty because the punishments for PED use are already outlined, and they don&#8217;t include such action (or inaction) as you describe.  The penalty for PED use is 50 games, not 50 games plus anything else we decide to throw at you in our emotional over-reaction to what should be a non-issue.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And the mere fact that it exists in such an extensive wikipedia article tells us that it is unlike Most Walks&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you remove all the bref links, there&#039;s about 20 citations in that article.  Compare that to Sam Fuld&#039;s wikipedia page, and you get 167.  Does he &#039;extensive&#039; wikipedia article show how important he is?  Or what about 187 for Optimus Prime?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And the mere fact that it exists in such an extensive wikipedia article tells us that it is unlike Most Walks</p></blockquote>
<p>If you remove all the bref links, there&#8217;s about 20 citations in that article.  Compare that to Sam Fuld&#8217;s wikipedia page, and you get 167.  Does he &#8216;extensive&#8217; wikipedia article show how important he is?  Or what about 187 for Optimus Prime?</p>
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		<title>By: frn27</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though the batting title isn&#039;t necessarily an award or trophy or ceremonial thing he still shouldn&#039;t be given the title. The near fact that this is even producing so many articles and discussion is sorta making the batting title a little more relevant than before. Tell me would you feel different if his BA was higher than Ted Williams and they still gave him the title? This is about principle because he&#039;s still being bestowed a title whether It&#039;s an official title or not.

I also find the discipline for PED&#039;s a little absurd itself. If any of us were to fail a random drug test at work we&#039;d be asked to pack our bags and hit the pavement. 50 game suspension after the fact? That helps but I believe if they are not banned it should at least be 100 then a ban but why not suspend for 50 future games and erase 50 prior games stats from the players career. Seems fair to me. It&#039;s obvious the allure of a big contract cancels out the fear of getting caught and I say to those who argue that we don&#039;t even know how much PED&#039;s help or even if they do at all....of course they work. Otherwise the players wouldn&#039;t be risking taking them. At the very least they help with your bodies recovery throughout the long season keeping you healthy and more fresh. When you feel healthy your concentration and confidence is better. It&#039;s not rocket science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though the batting title isn&#8217;t necessarily an award or trophy or ceremonial thing he still shouldn&#8217;t be given the title. The near fact that this is even producing so many articles and discussion is sorta making the batting title a little more relevant than before. Tell me would you feel different if his BA was higher than Ted Williams and they still gave him the title? This is about principle because he&#8217;s still being bestowed a title whether It&#8217;s an official title or not.</p>
<p>I also find the discipline for PED&#8217;s a little absurd itself. If any of us were to fail a random drug test at work we&#8217;d be asked to pack our bags and hit the pavement. 50 game suspension after the fact? That helps but I believe if they are not banned it should at least be 100 then a ban but why not suspend for 50 future games and erase 50 prior games stats from the players career. Seems fair to me. It&#8217;s obvious the allure of a big contract cancels out the fear of getting caught and I say to those who argue that we don&#8217;t even know how much PED&#8217;s help or even if they do at all&#8230;.of course they work. Otherwise the players wouldn&#8217;t be risking taking them. At the very least they help with your bodies recovery throughout the long season keeping you healthy and more fresh. When you feel healthy your concentration and confidence is better. It&#8217;s not rocket science.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas2727</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I keep thinking how ironic it would be if Ryan Braun would miss out on the Triple Crown by finishing 2nd to Melky in batting avg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep thinking how ironic it would be if Ryan Braun would miss out on the Triple Crown by finishing 2nd to Melky in batting avg.</p>
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		<title>By: metalhead65</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will never understand your defense of cheaters. why have awards if they do not mean anything? this guy was a .269 hitter untill he started juicing and put up big numbers but according to you it&#039;s ok if he is rewarded for it. what aboout the guys who put up their numbers clean? better luck next time guys or better yet juice but do not get caught then you can get your awards and the fat contracts that come with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never understand your defense of cheaters. why have awards if they do not mean anything? this guy was a .269 hitter untill he started juicing and put up big numbers but according to you it&#8217;s ok if he is rewarded for it. what aboout the guys who put up their numbers clean? better luck next time guys or better yet juice but do not get caught then you can get your awards and the fat contracts that come with them.</p>
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		<title>By: temporarilyexiled</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...wag one&#039;s figure at someone.&quot; 

Either that&#039;s clever and intentional: &quot;figure&quot; = stat, or you&#039;ve just set my mind in another direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;wag one&#8217;s figure at someone.&#8221; </p>
<p>Either that&#8217;s clever and intentional: &#8220;figure&#8221; = stat, or you&#8217;ve just set my mind in another direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, because I don&#039;t particularly give a sh*t. And believe me, I feel weird defending tradition, but go peruse the AL list-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_batting_champions
Kind of a fun list, no? An awful lot of Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Roger Hornsby (although any amount of Ty Cobb is probably an awful lot). And the mere fact that it exists in such an extensive wikipedia article tells us that it is unlike Most Walks. it&#039;s a part of baseball history, like it or not. You can ignore it--I mostly do, but it&#039;s silly to compare it the way the OP does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, because I don&#8217;t particularly give a sh*t. And believe me, I feel weird defending tradition, but go peruse the AL list&#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_batting_champions" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_batting_champions</a><br />
Kind of a fun list, no? An awful lot of Ty Cobb, Joe DiMaggio, Roger Hornsby (although any amount of Ty Cobb is probably an awful lot). And the mere fact that it exists in such an extensive wikipedia article tells us that it is unlike Most Walks. it&#8217;s a part of baseball history, like it or not. You can ignore it&#8211;I mostly do, but it&#8217;s silly to compare it the way the OP does.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;A simple web search could have confirmed that&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You don&#039;t even need a web search, the file name is silver-slugger-3.jpg, and you can also read &quot;Silver Slugger Award&quot; on the trophy...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A simple web search could have confirmed that</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t even need a web search, the file name is silver-slugger-3.jpg, and you can also read &#8220;Silver Slugger Award&#8221; on the trophy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your point that the batting title &quot;is a statistical measure and nothing more&quot; is not a good one. The batting title is most certainly more than a function of math. It has, as another commenter already noted, a storied history. Perhaps the most famous story is how Ted Williams refused to sit out towards the end of the 1941 season in order to guarantee a .400 average, and ended up hitting .406 (a story that was recapitulated more than once last year in reference to Jose Reyes&#039; quest for the batting title). The batting title is often referred to as a &quot;championship,&quot; and is one of the &quot;crowns&quot; in triple crown. To point out the fact that there is no literal crown, or championship, is trivial and pedantic, because its history has a quality and texture that exist beyond the merely statistical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point that the batting title &#8220;is a statistical measure and nothing more&#8221; is not a good one. The batting title is most certainly more than a function of math. It has, as another commenter already noted, a storied history. Perhaps the most famous story is how Ted Williams refused to sit out towards the end of the 1941 season in order to guarantee a .400 average, and ended up hitting .406 (a story that was recapitulated more than once last year in reference to Jose Reyes&#8217; quest for the batting title). The batting title is often referred to as a &#8220;championship,&#8221; and is one of the &#8220;crowns&#8221; in triple crown. To point out the fact that there is no literal crown, or championship, is trivial and pedantic, because its history has a quality and texture that exist beyond the merely statistical.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, the NCAA really laid the hammer down on Reggie Bush there.  That Heisman season never existed.  He never turned that into being the number two draft pick along with an eight-figure contract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the NCAA really laid the hammer down on Reggie Bush there.  That Heisman season never existed.  He never turned that into being the number two draft pick along with an eight-figure contract.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;There’s a history and a tradition to it&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you know Freddy Sanchez won it two years ago?  How about the AL two years ago?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There’s a history and a tradition to it</p></blockquote>
<p>Did you know Freddy Sanchez won it two years ago?  How about the AL two years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: barrancefong</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong.  A simple web search could have confirmed that.  Why are there two Twins holding awards if this is supposed to go to the &quot;winner&quot; of the batting title?

A Silver Slugger is awarded to a player that is voted by other players and managers to be the best offensive player at their position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong.  A simple web search could have confirmed that.  Why are there two Twins holding awards if this is supposed to go to the &#8220;winner&#8221; of the batting title?</p>
<p>A Silver Slugger is awarded to a player that is voted by other players and managers to be the best offensive player at their position.</p>
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		<title>By: temporarilyexiled</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right.  So the argument isn&#039;t about how decisions are made.  It&#039;s about how we&#039;re going to act, assuming we&#039;re actually aware of how our decisions are made (which is rarely the case).  It&#039;s okay to just say, &quot;Yeah, what could happen is a shame, but in this case, the suggested cure is worse than the disease, and oh yeah, this wasn&#039;t really all that important to begin with.&quot;  I like what ezthinking said about keeping things the way they are, to intentionally point out the flaws.  Better to remember mistakes than to try (and fail) to hide them.  I believe this relates directly to how the Hall of Fame should be looked at.  It&#039;s called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Virtue.  You can be famous for indiscretions, as well as accomplishments.  Trying to filter one from the other is just silly.  We&#039;re all, flawed, complex creatures.  Why should we expect perfection from our heroes?  Maybe if we started to see things in a more nuanced way, we&#039;d be able to make future changes to existing rules that make sense, because they&#039;re in keeping with the truth of human nature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  So the argument isn&#8217;t about how decisions are made.  It&#8217;s about how we&#8217;re going to act, assuming we&#8217;re actually aware of how our decisions are made (which is rarely the case).  It&#8217;s okay to just say, &#8220;Yeah, what could happen is a shame, but in this case, the suggested cure is worse than the disease, and oh yeah, this wasn&#8217;t really all that important to begin with.&#8221;  I like what ezthinking said about keeping things the way they are, to intentionally point out the flaws.  Better to remember mistakes than to try (and fail) to hide them.  I believe this relates directly to how the Hall of Fame should be looked at.  It&#8217;s called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Virtue.  You can be famous for indiscretions, as well as accomplishments.  Trying to filter one from the other is just silly.  We&#8217;re all, flawed, complex creatures.  Why should we expect perfection from our heroes?  Maybe if we started to see things in a more nuanced way, we&#8217;d be able to make future changes to existing rules that make sense, because they&#8217;re in keeping with the truth of human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: heyblueyoustink</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parkay is much more pliable, FYI.]]></description>
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		<title>By: natstowngreg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I oppose the idea of imposing a morality requirement on a statistic, and the idea of changing the rules after the fact. However, I like the idea of putting language on behavior in a player&#039;s contract, and tying it to incentive bonuses. That would be just between the team and player, and the penalty (loss of bonus) would be specified before the season starts and the player is suspended.

I&#039;m sure players have behavior clauses in their contracts (Josh Hamilton comes to mind). Don&#039;t know whether they are tied to performance bonuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oppose the idea of imposing a morality requirement on a statistic, and the idea of changing the rules after the fact. However, I like the idea of putting language on behavior in a player&#8217;s contract, and tying it to incentive bonuses. That would be just between the team and player, and the penalty (loss of bonus) would be specified before the season starts and the player is suspended.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure players have behavior clauses in their contracts (Josh Hamilton comes to mind). Don&#8217;t know whether they are tied to performance bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: djpostl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, there is a trophy. See that silver thing Rod Carew is holding in this picture? That would be it.

http://www.justinmorneau.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/silver-slugger-3.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, there is a trophy. See that silver thing Rod Carew is holding in this picture? That would be it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.justinmorneau.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/silver-slugger-3.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.justinmorneau.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/silver-slugger-3.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: alang3131982</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This stripping of a title seems ridiculous to me. It appears the media or whoever wants this done cares more about a title that has one meaning, i.e. designating the player in a specific league who got the most H per AB, than they do wins and losses. 

If cheating were so bad, why do you only strip a player or disqualify a player from a title/award? Those hits had real affects on wins/losses and ERAs of pitchers potentially in the CY Young race. So, if you&#039;re going to make a tiny rounding error in one instance isnt that saying that the one instance is more important than others? If not, you&#039;re just saying it&#039;s the easiest way or making an ultimately empty gesture (jester).

Finally, where is the clamor for ensuring pitchers who scuff balls or batters who use cork bats dont win awards? Pitchers who have scuffed balls have won awards in the past (which, come to think of it was probably the beginning of the slippery slope to rampant PED/amphetamine usage).

Focusing on the batting title is just a silly, meaningless way to wag one&#039;s figure at someone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stripping of a title seems ridiculous to me. It appears the media or whoever wants this done cares more about a title that has one meaning, i.e. designating the player in a specific league who got the most H per AB, than they do wins and losses. </p>
<p>If cheating were so bad, why do you only strip a player or disqualify a player from a title/award? Those hits had real affects on wins/losses and ERAs of pitchers potentially in the CY Young race. So, if you&#8217;re going to make a tiny rounding error in one instance isnt that saying that the one instance is more important than others? If not, you&#8217;re just saying it&#8217;s the easiest way or making an ultimately empty gesture (jester).</p>
<p>Finally, where is the clamor for ensuring pitchers who scuff balls or batters who use cork bats dont win awards? Pitchers who have scuffed balls have won awards in the past (which, come to think of it was probably the beginning of the slippery slope to rampant PED/amphetamine usage).</p>
<p>Focusing on the batting title is just a silly, meaningless way to wag one&#8217;s figure at someone.</p>
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