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	<title>Comments on: Ozzie Guillen: Marlins terrible, but still trying</title>
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		<title>By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/15/ozzie-guillen-marlins-terrible-but-still-trying/comment-page-1/#comment-365142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 01:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I misread the post. I thought Parrot was challenging someone to say that Ozzie was wrong. Looking at this team it certainly seems as though some folks have checked out. Ozzie does not seem to notice, or is blindly defending his players effort (perhaps because even he realizes that a team of quitters reflects poorly on him).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I misread the post. I thought Parrot was challenging someone to say that Ozzie was wrong. Looking at this team it certainly seems as though some folks have checked out. Ozzie does not seem to notice, or is blindly defending his players effort (perhaps because even he realizes that a team of quitters reflects poorly on him).</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong about &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt;, exactly? That the team is trying hard to win games? Since when have they been trying hard - the end of May? Before that they were actually &lt;i&gt;weening&lt;/i&gt; games. I&#039;ve been to quite a few games at Macondo Banana Massacre Field this season and watched I dunno how many more while they were both home and away. There have been any number of them when the guys really didn&#039;t look like they gave a shit. If they &lt;i&gt;looked&lt;/i&gt; like they were trying, folks wouldn&#039;t be saying - and Olney was &lt;i&gt;hardly&lt;/i&gt; alone in his perception - that they were dogging it. 

Procedural question: what represents &quot;trying&quot; anyway? When guys swing at a peetch so far out of the strike zone that it looks like it&#039;s on its way to visit its sick mother across the road in the hospital district, is they &quot;trying&quot; to hit the ball or are they &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; trying to get their undisciplined asses on base? Some of this, you see, is semantic. When a guy tries to score from second on a single to short left and gets thrown out at the plate like a sheet of wallboard by a nailgun, is he really trying to score or is he not bothering to pay attention to his coach or the seetuation on the field?  Teams that play as deficient a brand of fundamental baseball as the Feesh don&#039;t look like they&#039;re &quot;trying&quot; to win simply because they don&#039;t look like they&#039;re &quot;trying&quot; to keep their heads in the game. How they behave during any one play matters less than the impression they create that they&#039;re not &quot;trying&quot; to play well by doing so many little things badly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong about <i>what</i>, exactly? That the team is trying hard to win games? Since when have they been trying hard &#8211; the end of May? Before that they were actually <i>weening</i> games. I&#8217;ve been to quite a few games at Macondo Banana Massacre Field this season and watched I dunno how many more while they were both home and away. There have been any number of them when the guys really didn&#8217;t look like they gave a shit. If they <i>looked</i> like they were trying, folks wouldn&#8217;t be saying &#8211; and Olney was <i>hardly</i> alone in his perception &#8211; that they were dogging it. </p>
<p>Procedural question: what represents &#8220;trying&#8221; anyway? When guys swing at a peetch so far out of the strike zone that it looks like it&#8217;s on its way to visit its sick mother across the road in the hospital district, is they &#8220;trying&#8221; to hit the ball or are they <i>not</i> trying to get their undisciplined asses on base? Some of this, you see, is semantic. When a guy tries to score from second on a single to short left and gets thrown out at the plate like a sheet of wallboard by a nailgun, is he really trying to score or is he not bothering to pay attention to his coach or the seetuation on the field?  Teams that play as deficient a brand of fundamental baseball as the Feesh don&#8217;t look like they&#8217;re &#8220;trying&#8221; to win simply because they don&#8217;t look like they&#8217;re &#8220;trying&#8221; to keep their heads in the game. How they behave during any one play matters less than the impression they create that they&#8217;re not &#8220;trying&#8221; to play well by doing so many little things badly.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see what&#039;s moronic about standing up for his players when they are accused of not trying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s moronic about standing up for his players when they are accused of not trying.</p>
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		<title>By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, he is wrong. And he&#039;s a loudmouth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is wrong. And he&#8217;s a loudmouth.</p>
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		<title>By: mtheparrothead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mtheparrothead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say he&#039;s a loudmouth, but is he wrong?   Exactly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say he&#8217;s a loudmouth, but is he wrong?   Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: chill1184</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chill1184]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He won Chicago a WS in a city who didnt see a championship since the 1985 Bears, he had a long leash after that. When you have a ring under your belt you can get a skipper job anywhere but yea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He won Chicago a WS in a city who didnt see a championship since the 1985 Bears, he had a long leash after that. When you have a ring under your belt you can get a skipper job anywhere but yea.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 01:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thank the little baby Jesus that he&#039;s no longer managing the Sox.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank the little baby Jesus that he&#8217;s no longer managing the Sox.</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He will be unemployed very, very soon.

What an unabashed idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He will be unemployed very, very soon.</p>
<p>What an unabashed idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboyscanada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboyscanada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cant believe Guiellen is employed in major league baseball.  Hes such a loudmouth moron.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe Guiellen is employed in major league baseball.  Hes such a loudmouth moron.</p>
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