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	<title>Comments on: Tony La Russa holds a grudge against Keith Law</title>
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		<title>By: pepefreeus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pepefreeus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hamilton Burger was his mentor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamilton Burger was his mentor.</p>
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		<title>By: dutchman45</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dutchman45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony LaRussa is a disgrace. He not only made this mistake but left Brandon Phillips and Johnny Cueto off the all star team because he dislikes them and holds a grudge
 Not very proffessional!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony LaRussa is a disgrace. He not only made this mistake but left Brandon Phillips and Johnny Cueto off the all star team because he dislikes them and holds a grudge<br />
 Not very proffessional!</p>
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		<title>By: schmedley69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schmedley69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heard that he still holds a grudge against the cops who pulled him over for drunk driving too. The person he should really hold a grudge against is his barber.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard that he still holds a grudge against the cops who pulled him over for drunk driving too. The person he should really hold a grudge against is his barber.</p>
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		<title>By: umrguy42</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[umrguy42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Less norcaldeportes. More anybody else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less norcaldeportes. More anybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: sisqsage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sisqsage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TLR has always been a little weird. With his animal rights obsession, he&#039;s nicer to dogs than he is to some people he runs across.

Holding grudges works in sports. Gives you an edge, and nobody worked harder or enjoyed getting an edge more than La Russa.

The factual errors (wrong year and inaccuarate voting results) are unacceptable and totally take away from his argument about the Cy Young.

If you have read a recently-relased book of any kind, it&#039;s obvious publishers no longer pay for top editing/fact checking talent due to the economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TLR has always been a little weird. With his animal rights obsession, he&#8217;s nicer to dogs than he is to some people he runs across.</p>
<p>Holding grudges works in sports. Gives you an edge, and nobody worked harder or enjoyed getting an edge more than La Russa.</p>
<p>The factual errors (wrong year and inaccuarate voting results) are unacceptable and totally take away from his argument about the Cy Young.</p>
<p>If you have read a recently-relased book of any kind, it&#8217;s obvious publishers no longer pay for top editing/fact checking talent due to the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: vikesfansteve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vikesfansteve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Larussa was with the A&#039;s he got nailed in Danville CA driving wasted.  The police let him drive home &amp; did not arrest him.  It was a big scandal.  This was back in 92. He has given lots of money to the city of Alamo &amp; Danville but the dude is and always has been a boozer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Larussa was with the A&#8217;s he got nailed in Danville CA driving wasted.  The police let him drive home &amp; did not arrest him.  It was a big scandal.  This was back in 92. He has given lots of money to the city of Alamo &amp; Danville but the dude is and always has been a boozer.</p>
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		<title>By: bla bla bla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bla bla bla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ever lasting, all encompassing Douche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever lasting, all encompassing Douche.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyb1976</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnnyb1976]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there any time that the Cards and their fans aren&#039;t crying about something]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any time that the Cards and their fans aren&#8217;t crying about something</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since when? I wasn&#039;t intending the lawyer part as a compliment. Something closer to the joke about &quot;professional courtesy&quot; and &quot;eaten by sharks.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when? I wasn&#8217;t intending the lawyer part as a compliment. Something closer to the joke about &#8220;professional courtesy&#8221; and &#8220;eaten by sharks.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: norcaldeportes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[norcaldeportes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Less ex-Cardinals. More Giants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less ex-Cardinals. More Giants.</p>
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		<title>By: thefalcon123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefalcon123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Jesus. 

Lincecum had 49 more strike outs, gave up 7 fewer home runs and gave up 48 fewer hits (he did give up two more walks in 8 fewer innings).  In other words, Tim Lincecum by every account other than wins was better than Adam Wainwright. The wins is mostly explained by the fact he had the leagues 13th best offense behind him!

If anything Wainwright was actually much closer to Halladay in 2010!  

Halladay: 21-10, 2.44 ERA, 250 IP, 231 Hits, 30 BB, 219 K, 1.041 WHIP
Wainwright: 20-11, 2,42 ERA, 230 IP, 186 H, 56 BB, 213 K, 1.051 WHIP

...and he didn&#039;t get a single first place vote that year.  Where&#039;s everyone&#039;s outrage on that one!*

*this is not to imply that Wainwright deserved it over Halladay...he didn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jesus. </p>
<p>Lincecum had 49 more strike outs, gave up 7 fewer home runs and gave up 48 fewer hits (he did give up two more walks in 8 fewer innings).  In other words, Tim Lincecum by every account other than wins was better than Adam Wainwright. The wins is mostly explained by the fact he had the leagues 13th best offense behind him!</p>
<p>If anything Wainwright was actually much closer to Halladay in 2010!  </p>
<p>Halladay: 21-10, 2.44 ERA, 250 IP, 231 Hits, 30 BB, 219 K, 1.041 WHIP<br />
Wainwright: 20-11, 2,42 ERA, 230 IP, 186 H, 56 BB, 213 K, 1.051 WHIP</p>
<p>&#8230;and he didn&#8217;t get a single first place vote that year.  Where&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s outrage on that one!*</p>
<p>*this is not to imply that Wainwright deserved it over Halladay&#8230;he didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: okwhitefalcon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[okwhitefalcon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no excuse for the facts of the story being incorrect, that&#039;s just bad business.

I guess Harper Collins cut back on the fact checkers before going to print, Tony&#039;s a sharp guy but his recollection isn&#039;t right - it should&#039;ve been caught.

As for TLR, why is this surprising to anyone?

He&#039;s got a long memory and holds grudges, always has and always will.  

Expect more stories like this to surface as the release of the book nears, I&#039;ve seen some already and they&#039;re gold.  

The Ian Desmond &quot;hit&quot; in spring training, the lighting stuff at Miller Park, phonegate is the World Series - it&#039;s awesome reading.  

I could take him or leave him as a manager, he just never bugged me the way he does some.  One thing for sure, everyone knew he was in charge and the franchise reflected his personality and that&#039;s something they sorely miss this year.

As for Law, I&#039;m a Cardinal fan who happens to enjoy him.  

Hell, I think he&#039;s actually overrated a few Cards prospects over the years in the name of HPGF (hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no excuse for the facts of the story being incorrect, that&#8217;s just bad business.</p>
<p>I guess Harper Collins cut back on the fact checkers before going to print, Tony&#8217;s a sharp guy but his recollection isn&#8217;t right &#8211; it should&#8217;ve been caught.</p>
<p>As for TLR, why is this surprising to anyone?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got a long memory and holds grudges, always has and always will.  </p>
<p>Expect more stories like this to surface as the release of the book nears, I&#8217;ve seen some already and they&#8217;re gold.  </p>
<p>The Ian Desmond &#8220;hit&#8221; in spring training, the lighting stuff at Miller Park, phonegate is the World Series &#8211; it&#8217;s awesome reading.  </p>
<p>I could take him or leave him as a manager, he just never bugged me the way he does some.  One thing for sure, everyone knew he was in charge and the franchise reflected his personality and that&#8217;s something they sorely miss this year.</p>
<p>As for Law, I&#8217;m a Cardinal fan who happens to enjoy him.  </p>
<p>Hell, I think he&#8217;s actually overrated a few Cards prospects over the years in the name of HPGF (hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity).</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just went and checked.  For 2006-2010, the Cardinals pitching staff had the 5th lowest BABIP in all the Majors.  In other words, their defense was better at turning batted balls into outs than just about everyone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just went and checked.  For 2006-2010, the Cardinals pitching staff had the 5th lowest BABIP in all the Majors.  In other words, their defense was better at turning batted balls into outs than just about everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know the time frame for stlducks comments, but I assume it was the year they played Ryan at SS a lot, which had a large effect on the rate at which GBs were turned into outs that year.

I think &quot;team&quot; UZR is a pretty crappy stat.  If you want to see how well a team turned batted balls into outs, just look at their team BABIP for the pitching staff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the time frame for stlducks comments, but I assume it was the year they played Ryan at SS a lot, which had a large effect on the rate at which GBs were turned into outs that year.</p>
<p>I think &#8220;team&#8221; UZR is a pretty crappy stat.  If you want to see how well a team turned batted balls into outs, just look at their team BABIP for the pitching staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Fox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently the training didn&#039;t take. Lawyers are supposed to be precise with their facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the training didn&#8217;t take. Lawyers are supposed to be precise with their facts.</p>
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		<title>By: saints97</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[saints97]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But, by the way, I have no beef with Law. I think he&#039;s a smart baseball guy, and always has reasoned explanations for his thoughts on players. He&#039;s wrong sometimes, but that doesn&#039;t mean he didn&#039;t make a logical judgement that just ended up wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, by the way, I have no beef with Law. I think he&#8217;s a smart baseball guy, and always has reasoned explanations for his thoughts on players. He&#8217;s wrong sometimes, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he didn&#8217;t make a logical judgement that just ended up wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: vallewho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vallewho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brobdingnagian Douch]]></description>
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		<title>By: vallewho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vallewho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[will TLR ever go away?...I hope so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will TLR ever go away?&#8230;I hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: saints97</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[saints97]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would assume that we are talking about the period from 2006 to 2010, since that seems to be the time that Carp and Waino were contending for Cy Young Awards.

During that span, the Cardinals had a team UZR of negative 15.8, good for 10th in the National League.

All of those above average to great defensive players must have had negative synergy, or maybe your eyeballs fail you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would assume that we are talking about the period from 2006 to 2010, since that seems to be the time that Carp and Waino were contending for Cy Young Awards.</p>
<p>During that span, the Cardinals had a team UZR of negative 15.8, good for 10th in the National League.</p>
<p>All of those above average to great defensive players must have had negative synergy, or maybe your eyeballs fail you.</p>
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		<title>By: mvp43</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mvp43]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Super colossal mega douche]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super colossal mega douche</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rolen, Edmonds, Pujols, Molina, Ludwick, Ryan, Miles (totally under rated defender), they had plenty of above average to great defensive players throughout the years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rolen, Edmonds, Pujols, Molina, Ludwick, Ryan, Miles (totally under rated defender), they had plenty of above average to great defensive players throughout the years.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Cardinal fan....and see nothing in Tony&#039;s resume to suggest he was anything more than a slightly above average manager.  Mostly, he managed very talented teams, and he only finished with a .536 career winning % (an average of 87-75 per season).  Considering the highly talented teams he managed over most of his career, that number isn&#039;t particularly impressive.

To me, he just managed a lot.  He finished 3rd in wins, 2nd in losses, and &lt;b&gt;22nd in winning % for managers with over 2000 games&lt;/b&gt;.  Considering the talent he had on his teams in Chicago, Oakland, and St. Louis, that&#039;s fine...but nothing spectacular.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Cardinal fan&#8230;.and see nothing in Tony&#8217;s resume to suggest he was anything more than a slightly above average manager.  Mostly, he managed very talented teams, and he only finished with a .536 career winning % (an average of 87-75 per season).  Considering the highly talented teams he managed over most of his career, that number isn&#8217;t particularly impressive.</p>
<p>To me, he just managed a lot.  He finished 3rd in wins, 2nd in losses, and <b>22nd in winning % for managers with over 2000 games</b>.  Considering the talent he had on his teams in Chicago, Oakland, and St. Louis, that&#8217;s fine&#8230;but nothing spectacular.</p>
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		<title>By: saints97</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When did the Cardinals have good defense? Sure, they had Brendan Ryan for a majority of games in one season, but that same season saw Skip Schumaker at 2B, and he&#039;s terrible. Albert was great defensively from 2006-2008, but was otherwise just above average. 

I guess there are some that say Eckstein is good just because he is small and tries hard, but he was always a liability defensively. And since Rolen left, the same can mostly be said of their 3rd sackers. 

I really don&#039;t understand the idea that the Cardinals were so great defensively. Maybe I am misremembering, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did the Cardinals have good defense? Sure, they had Brendan Ryan for a majority of games in one season, but that same season saw Skip Schumaker at 2B, and he&#8217;s terrible. Albert was great defensively from 2006-2008, but was otherwise just above average. </p>
<p>I guess there are some that say Eckstein is good just because he is small and tries hard, but he was always a liability defensively. And since Rolen left, the same can mostly be said of their 3rd sackers. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t understand the idea that the Cardinals were so great defensively. Maybe I am misremembering, though.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd, I don&#039;t know any legitimate fans who feel that way.  I am aware of plenty of mouth-breather Cardinal fans that think anyone that doesn&#039;t gush over every player or prospect on &quot;their&quot; team must be a hater (similar to parts of every fan base)....but confusing unbiased analysis/observation for bashing/hating says far more about those that are outraged than it does about the person giving an information-based opinion.

Smart fans realize that saying a pitcher isn&#039;t as good as his ERA because his defense is good is actually a compliment to the defenders.  Run prevention isn&#039;t solely the job of the pitcher, there are 7 guys behind him that need to do their job too.

Do those alleged fans you know still dislike Law, because no he can&#039;t help but lavish praise on the solid and deep farm system, and he does so over and over and over?

I&#039;d love to see a list of players Law &quot;bashed&quot; that turned out to be better than he thought they were.  The only one I can think of is Jon Jay...and even Law has made the point that if Jay really is a .350 BABIP hitter (which no one saw coming based on his MiLB numbers), then he&#039;s a solid everyday CFer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, I don&#8217;t know any legitimate fans who feel that way.  I am aware of plenty of mouth-breather Cardinal fans that think anyone that doesn&#8217;t gush over every player or prospect on &#8220;their&#8221; team must be a hater (similar to parts of every fan base)&#8230;.but confusing unbiased analysis/observation for bashing/hating says far more about those that are outraged than it does about the person giving an information-based opinion.</p>
<p>Smart fans realize that saying a pitcher isn&#8217;t as good as his ERA because his defense is good is actually a compliment to the defenders.  Run prevention isn&#8217;t solely the job of the pitcher, there are 7 guys behind him that need to do their job too.</p>
<p>Do those alleged fans you know still dislike Law, because no he can&#8217;t help but lavish praise on the solid and deep farm system, and he does so over and over and over?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see a list of players Law &#8220;bashed&#8221; that turned out to be better than he thought they were.  The only one I can think of is Jon Jay&#8230;and even Law has made the point that if Jay really is a .350 BABIP hitter (which no one saw coming based on his MiLB numbers), then he&#8217;s a solid everyday CFer.</p>
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		<title>By: nategearhart</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, TLR is a colossal douche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, TLR is a colossal douche.</p>
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		<title>By: nategearhart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nategearhart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would go over all the things that are wrong and inaccurate about this post, but it&#039;s been rehashed so many times over the years that I&#039;m starting to think illegibility/lack of reading comprehension is a prerequisite for Cardinal fandom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would go over all the things that are wrong and inaccurate about this post, but it&#8217;s been rehashed so many times over the years that I&#8217;m starting to think illegibility/lack of reading comprehension is a prerequisite for Cardinal fandom.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still waiting for the leaked story that TLR did not like Colby Rasmus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for the leaked story that TLR did not like Colby Rasmus.</p>
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		<title>By: thatyankeedude</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thatyankeedude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mega douche]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mega douche</p>
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		<title>By: stlducks</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most cardinals fan s I know, including me dislike Keith law because of how he used to bash on cardinal pitchers by saying they are not that good. He used to say they look good because the defense makes great plays for them. And he decided to punish Waino because the cards had a great infield.
Again stupid writers in this blog find anyway to bash the greatest mananger in baseball just because he didn&#039;t give a crap about anyone of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most cardinals fan s I know, including me dislike Keith law because of how he used to bash on cardinal pitchers by saying they are not that good. He used to say they look good because the defense makes great plays for them. And he decided to punish Waino because the cards had a great infield.<br />
Again stupid writers in this blog find anyway to bash the greatest mananger in baseball just because he didn&#8217;t give a crap about anyone of you.</p>
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		<title>By: elmaquino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elmaquino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll save the commenters some time:

DUI. Tony&#039;s fault he was portrayed as smarter than everyone else by the media. Bizarre hatred of a person you don&#039;t know.  Good?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll save the commenters some time:</p>
<p>DUI. Tony&#8217;s fault he was portrayed as smarter than everyone else by the media. Bizarre hatred of a person you don&#8217;t know.  Good?</p>
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