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Mike Scioscia and struggling C.J. Wilson had another closed-door meeting

Sep 21, 2012, 10:47 AM EDT

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C.J. Wilson struggled again Wednesday night, as his former Rangers teammates knocked him out of the game in the third inning, and afterward he had what Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times describes as “a lengthy closed-door meeting” with manager Mike Scioscia.

According to DiGiovanna it’s the second such meeting Wilson and Scioscia have had since the All-Star break and clearly the first get-together didn’t do much good, as he’s got a 5.79 ERA in 14 second-half starts.

However, despite Wilson’s struggles and Jerome Williams‘ nice long-relief outing after he exited Scioscia is sticking with him in the rotation because “we want him to get comfortable with some things and get back out there … I can’t overstate how much we need our starters to do what they’re capable of.”

DiGiovanna reports that Scioscia and pitching coach Mike Butcher previously stressed to Wilson that he should be more aggressive and scale back his repertoire in an effort to avoid so many deep counts and walks. Wilson led the league in walks with the Rangers in 2010 and then cut his walks to 74 in 223 innings last season, but he’s already issued 83 free passes in 191 innings this year.

Wilson is in the first season of a five-year contract that will pay him $11 million in 2013, $16 million in 2014, $18 million in 2015, and $20 million in 2016.

  1. pw38 - Sep 21, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    I think in the rush to get one over on the Rangers (steal their “ace”) they didn’t seem to realize (or care that) there was a reason the Rangers didn’t make a serious offer to him. Ceej is a good guy if a bit cocky (understatement) and I do appreciate what he did for the team the past two seasons but he folded when it counted most and this is a case of more of the same.

  2. jarathen - Sep 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Looking at the Pitch f/x data, I know in this last start the strike zone he dealt with had no vertical range whatsoever. He’s got more problems than that, but it doesn’t help when the zone loses 8 vertical inches.

  3. blues1988 - Sep 21, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    i love seeing overpaid guys fail like this. especially when they play for the angels.

    • pisano - Sep 21, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      I think Scioscia time in Anaheim is running short, there may be a changing of the guard soon.

  4. willclarkgameface - Sep 21, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Scioscia: Look CJ. We really need you to pitch like an ace and all you’re doing is going up there and throwing gofer balls to your old team what gives.

    CJ: I don’t know, bro. Ever since I got paid I just don’t have as much drive to compete anymore, kinda like when Barry Zito got payed up in Frisco. I just want to race small cars and have paintball fights with Trouty and T-Hun.

    Scioscia: But we’re trying to win one last time before Arte moves us to Industry and changes the name yet again.

    CJ: I know, bro. I’m trying, but I’m not. You know? It’s just hard out there. It’s almost pool season and I just can’t concentrate.

    Scioscia: Oh boy. I’m outta here anyway. Going to Boston to deal with Lackey again. Wait…WHAT?!?!?!?

    • psousa1 - Sep 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM

      I hope like hell the Angels fire him and he comes to Boston. I’ll pick him up at the airport.

  5. sisqsage - Sep 21, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Yeah, those 8 vert. inches explains everything. I am sure that came up in the private meeting with the manager.
    Maybe he needs to get more horizontal.
    Sincerely, geometry geek

  6. attemptingtohesitate - Sep 21, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    CJ Wilson is not, and has never been, and probably never will be, a true ace. He was Texas’ #1 last year by default. A good pitcher that pitched a ton of innings and served the Ranger’s well. until playoff time came around. Just put a calender in front of him and let him see its crunch time and he’ll fold. He is not worthy of being called an ace, much less the contract that he wanted and the Los Angeles Angels of AnaehimandallotherCaliforniacities gave him.

    • cosanostra71 - Sep 21, 2012 at 4:02 PM

      well, the Angels didn’t sign him to head up the rotation or be the ace, but you make a fair point.

  7. lumpyf - Sep 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    Nolan Ryan didn’t shed any tears when the Angels signed him. Nolan isn’t surprised.

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