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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;To be a Mets fan &#8230; is to be a gourmand of loss&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: hisgirlgotburrelled</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... and learning to truly commune with a losing team has, I think, made me enjoy the winning much more.&quot; 

Definitely does. I was born months after the Sixers won in &#039;83. 25 years and 0 championships from the Phillies/Flyers/Sixers/Eagles. After that many seasons of losing, 2008 was incredible. Mets/Jets/Islanders/Knicks fans are in that 4-team losing drought. It&#039;s more than just the Mets for the non-Giants/Rangers fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; and learning to truly commune with a losing team has, I think, made me enjoy the winning much more.&#8221; </p>
<p>Definitely does. I was born months after the Sixers won in &#8217;83. 25 years and 0 championships from the Phillies/Flyers/Sixers/Eagles. After that many seasons of losing, 2008 was incredible. Mets/Jets/Islanders/Knicks fans are in that 4-team losing drought. It&#8217;s more than just the Mets for the non-Giants/Rangers fans.</p>
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		<title>By: owenpoin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a breezy satisfaction to being the alpha dog, but real poetry more often comes from failure.

http://metsfanfiction.blogspot.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a breezy satisfaction to being the alpha dog, but real poetry more often comes from failure.</p>
<p><a href="http://metsfanfiction.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://metsfanfiction.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: natstowngreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natstowngreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Mets were 75-86 in 2002, 66-95 in 2003.The Nats were 59-102 in 2008, 59-103 in 2009. And this is not about being last in the NL East; the Nats finished last in 2005 with a .500 record. I&#039;m talking about being worst in MLB in back-to-back seasons.The Mets have not lost 100 games in a season since 1993. Before that, in 1967.

Your comment on the Mets winning World Series, aside from being irrelevant, just reinforces that this is nothing but New York whining, Mets-style. Poor us, we haven&#039;t won the World Series in 16 years. We&#039;ve had a losing record 4 seasons in a row. We&#039;re still not as good as the Yankees. Of course, the Yankees have their own variety. Poor us, we haven&#039;t won the World Series since 2009. Pitiful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mets were 75-86 in 2002, 66-95 in 2003.The Nats were 59-102 in 2008, 59-103 in 2009. And this is not about being last in the NL East; the Nats finished last in 2005 with a .500 record. I&#8217;m talking about being worst in MLB in back-to-back seasons.The Mets have not lost 100 games in a season since 1993. Before that, in 1967.</p>
<p>Your comment on the Mets winning World Series, aside from being irrelevant, just reinforces that this is nothing but New York whining, Mets-style. Poor us, we haven&#8217;t won the World Series in 16 years. We&#8217;ve had a losing record 4 seasons in a row. We&#8217;re still not as good as the Yankees. Of course, the Yankees have their own variety. Poor us, we haven&#8217;t won the World Series since 2009. Pitiful.</p>
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		<title>By: jayscarpa</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I grew up a Yankees fan during the CBS years with some really godawful teams. It taught me early on  to  never take for granted their success and to never apologize for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up a Yankees fan during the CBS years with some really godawful teams. It taught me early on  to  never take for granted their success and to never apologize for it.</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2002 and 2003 would like a word. As would 1982 and 1995. The Mets have plenty of experience being the bottom of their division, just like the Nats. They have, however, won the whole thing twice. That&#039;s something the Nats haven&#039;t done. When you get THERE, let me know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2002 and 2003 would like a word. As would 1982 and 1995. The Mets have plenty of experience being the bottom of their division, just like the Nats. They have, however, won the whole thing twice. That&#8217;s something the Nats haven&#8217;t done. When you get THERE, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: natstowngreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natstowngreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another case of something getting blown out of proportion by New York media. When the Mets get to the bottom and stay there a couple of years, let me know.

Having some eperience rooting for a horrible team, in a place where few inhabitants remember winning, I can say that it&#039;s about

1. Having Major League Baseball at all. Even if it&#039;s being played by the other teams.
2. The ballpark experience. Even if the food is overpriced and mediocre, and the efforts to make us root cheesy, as though we were Pavlov&#039;s dogs. 
3. Hope. While the Nats were stinking on the field, a contending team was being assembled. For those of us who endured the bad teams, 2012&#039;s team is payback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another case of something getting blown out of proportion by New York media. When the Mets get to the bottom and stay there a couple of years, let me know.</p>
<p>Having some eperience rooting for a horrible team, in a place where few inhabitants remember winning, I can say that it&#8217;s about</p>
<p>1. Having Major League Baseball at all. Even if it&#8217;s being played by the other teams.<br />
2. The ballpark experience. Even if the food is overpriced and mediocre, and the efforts to make us root cheesy, as though we were Pavlov&#8217;s dogs.<br />
3. Hope. While the Nats were stinking on the field, a contending team was being assembled. For those of us who endured the bad teams, 2012&#8242;s team is payback.</p>
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		<title>By: natstowngreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natstowngreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Raiders fans were like that when their team was one of the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raiders fans were like that when their team was one of the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here, Mutts fans: this will help you.

http://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Sense-Life-Miguel-Unamuno/dp/1461059879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1348354733&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=the+tragic+sense+of+life]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, Mutts fans: this will help you.</p>
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<p style="margin: 10px 10px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Sense-Life-Miguel-Unamuno/dp/1461059879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1348354733&#038;sr=8-1&#038;keywords=the+tragic+sense+of+life" target="_blank"><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41oe1a2YEYL.jpg" height="500" width="400" alt="Tragic Sense Of Life" style="padding:0;margin:0;border:none;" /></a></p>
<p style="font-size: 10px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Sense-Life-Miguel-Unamuno/dp/1461059879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1348354733&#038;sr=8-1&#038;keywords=the+tragic+sense+of+life" target="_blank">Tragic Sense Of Life</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 10px 165px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tragic-Sense-Life-Miguel-Unamuno/dp/1461059879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1348354733&#038;sr=8-1&#038;keywords=the+tragic+sense+of+life" target="_blank"><img alt="Buy from Amazon" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/buttons/buy-from-tan.gif"" style="padding:0;margin:0;border:none;" /></a></p>
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		<title>By: tashkalucy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tashkalucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And of course, Cleveland hasn&#039;t won a championship in anything since 1964 - 48 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, Cleveland hasn&#8217;t won a championship in anything since 1964 &#8211; 48 years.</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah.....the perennial losers bit with the Mets is overstated for sure. There are several fan bases much worse off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;..the perennial losers bit with the Mets is overstated for sure. There are several fan bases much worse off.</p>
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		<title>By: sometimesimisscandlestick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sometimesimisscandlestick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an almost 49 year old Giant fan, born the year after their lone &#039;60s World Series appearance.  I grew up watching the team that was barely OK sometimes bordering on horrible; I have a vague remembrance of the &#039;72 NL West title.  There was nothing from then until &#039;87 and I was at the game when they clinched the NL West in San Diego.  I was at Dodger Stadium two years later when the Giants clinched the west even though they lost 1-0 to the Dodgers that night, and even made it to the rescheduled game four of the &#039;89 World Series (sniff, sniff).  The 90s were a bit better and I was still upset for years about the &#039;02 World Series loss.  The joy I felt when the team won it all in 2010 is still indescribable.  The Mets have at least won two series in the last 43 years which is more than many teams can say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an almost 49 year old Giant fan, born the year after their lone &#8217;60s World Series appearance.  I grew up watching the team that was barely OK sometimes bordering on horrible; I have a vague remembrance of the &#8217;72 NL West title.  There was nothing from then until &#8217;87 and I was at the game when they clinched the NL West in San Diego.  I was at Dodger Stadium two years later when the Giants clinched the west even though they lost 1-0 to the Dodgers that night, and even made it to the rescheduled game four of the &#8217;89 World Series (sniff, sniff).  The 90s were a bit better and I was still upset for years about the &#8217;02 World Series loss.  The joy I felt when the team won it all in 2010 is still indescribable.  The Mets have at least won two series in the last 43 years which is more than many teams can say.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Title: The underdog concept in sport.
Authors: Frazier, J. A.; Snyder, E. E.
Journal: Sociology of Sport Journal 1991 Vol. 8 No. 4 pp. 380-388

Abstract: &quot;The tension and excitement of competitive sport is created by the indeterminacy of the contest that is based on an approximate equity between the contestants. Yet players and teams vary in competence and prestige, and those with less competence are frequently labelled as the under-dog. While winning is valued, cross-cutting values often create sentiments for the under-dog, that is, the desire for the under-dog to overcome the inferior status and upset the favoured opponent. Social support for the under-dog reflects a utilitarian perspective that helps maintain an emotional interest in a contest; additionally, under-dogs receive support from the social value of equity. At a micro-level, the under-dog status is often used to increase the level of motivation and performance. Data gathered from university students are used to support the positions taken in the paper.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title: The underdog concept in sport.<br />
Authors: Frazier, J. A.; Snyder, E. E.<br />
Journal: Sociology of Sport Journal 1991 Vol. 8 No. 4 pp. 380-388</p>
<p>Abstract: &#8220;The tension and excitement of competitive sport is created by the indeterminacy of the contest that is based on an approximate equity between the contestants. Yet players and teams vary in competence and prestige, and those with less competence are frequently labelled as the under-dog. While winning is valued, cross-cutting values often create sentiments for the under-dog, that is, the desire for the under-dog to overcome the inferior status and upset the favoured opponent. Social support for the under-dog reflects a utilitarian perspective that helps maintain an emotional interest in a contest; additionally, under-dogs receive support from the social value of equity. At a micro-level, the under-dog status is often used to increase the level of motivation and performance. Data gathered from university students are used to support the positions taken in the paper.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tashkalucy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tashkalucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one knows losing like fans of Cleveland&#039;s professional sports teams.

If the Indians can hold on and finish in last place, then that means that all 3 Cleveland teams will finish in last place for the season. And the Indians have a shot at 100 losses as well.

The Indians have finished above .500 once in the Dolan&#039;s 12 years of ownership. I believe the Browns have finished above .500 twice since they came back in 1999. And the Cavs have sucked since Lebron left - he grew up in the area and knew better then to stay....and he won a championship in his 2nd year away.

Want some more?  The Browns have won 3 playoff games since the late 1960&#039;s - forty-plus years. The Indians were not even in a pennant race in August between 1960 and 1993.

One would have to view the Cleveland teams to realize how totally UNWATCHABLE they are.

Put another way - the 3 teams have 93 players on their rosters. Not a one can be considered any form of a star.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one knows losing like fans of Cleveland&#8217;s professional sports teams.</p>
<p>If the Indians can hold on and finish in last place, then that means that all 3 Cleveland teams will finish in last place for the season. And the Indians have a shot at 100 losses as well.</p>
<p>The Indians have finished above .500 once in the Dolan&#8217;s 12 years of ownership. I believe the Browns have finished above .500 twice since they came back in 1999. And the Cavs have sucked since Lebron left &#8211; he grew up in the area and knew better then to stay&#8230;.and he won a championship in his 2nd year away.</p>
<p>Want some more?  The Browns have won 3 playoff games since the late 1960&#8242;s &#8211; forty-plus years. The Indians were not even in a pennant race in August between 1960 and 1993.</p>
<p>One would have to view the Cleveland teams to realize how totally UNWATCHABLE they are.</p>
<p>Put another way &#8211; the 3 teams have 93 players on their rosters. Not a one can be considered any form of a star.</p>
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		<title>By: ptfu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ptfu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heh, nice use of sarcasm.  Yep, all the spikes, chains, skulls, silver makeup, and general thuggery clearly portray Raiders fans as normal, coping, well-adjusted people who would be great role models for the rest of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, nice use of sarcasm.  Yep, all the spikes, chains, skulls, silver makeup, and general thuggery clearly portray Raiders fans as normal, coping, well-adjusted people who would be great role models for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphannn83</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love my &quot;F*ck NY&quot; T-shirt! I got at a Phiilies-Mets game during that EPIC September collapse! I have fond memories of those days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my &#8220;F*ck NY&#8221; T-shirt! I got at a Phiilies-Mets game during that EPIC September collapse! I have fond memories of those days.</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a good article. I&#039;ve been a Mets fan since 84 and I&#039;m convinced I will never see them win another Series. But I always think of Cubs fans when I think I have it bad. At least I remember watching them take it in all in 86.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a good article. I&#8217;ve been a Mets fan since 84 and I&#8217;m convinced I will never see them win another Series. But I always think of Cubs fans when I think I have it bad. At least I remember watching them take it in all in 86.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesjetsknicksrangers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesjetsknicksrangers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then please for the love of God can you somehow get those stars and all that burgeoning talent to take the next couple of game from the O&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then please for the love of God can you somehow get those stars and all that burgeoning talent to take the next couple of game from the O&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rabbit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@18th Street
I haven&#039;t decided yet whether Randy is a complete ass, a troll of first class magnitude, or someone who only occasionally takes his prescribed meds.
Every so often he posts something that is balanced and thoughtful....and then there is the total d*ck comment like the one above. 
Whichever it is, just be grateful you don&#039;t have to live with him.

BTW-I love baseball...period...Don&#039;t have any strong team loyalty so I am amused by the incredible overreaction by fans to trolls.  I thought your response was an accurate assessment of the current state of the Red Sox. Wondering what they will do regarding Ortiz. Anyway, good luck next season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18th Street<br />
I haven&#8217;t decided yet whether Randy is a complete ass, a troll of first class magnitude, or someone who only occasionally takes his prescribed meds.<br />
Every so often he posts something that is balanced and thoughtful&#8230;.and then there is the total d*ck comment like the one above.<br />
Whichever it is, just be grateful you don&#8217;t have to live with him.</p>
<p>BTW-I love baseball&#8230;period&#8230;Don&#8217;t have any strong team loyalty so I am amused by the incredible overreaction by fans to trolls.  I thought your response was an accurate assessment of the current state of the Red Sox. Wondering what they will do regarding Ortiz. Anyway, good luck next season.</p>
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		<title>By: aceshigh11</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re just now realizing Randy&#039;s a festering sack of bovine excrement?

At any rate, as a Red Sox fan AND a Mets fan (from my youth anyway...I don&#039;t follow them religiously since I moved out of NY), the &quot;panache and a touch of humor&quot; quote from the article really resonated with me.

I don&#039;t let sports affect me in a negative way...really, all I can do is look back on the Sox season, shake my head and laugh, and hope that the more cancerous elements of the team are gradually shoved aside to make room for younger, exciting players who have some guts and pride.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re just now realizing Randy&#8217;s a festering sack of bovine excrement?</p>
<p>At any rate, as a Red Sox fan AND a Mets fan (from my youth anyway&#8230;I don&#8217;t follow them religiously since I moved out of NY), the &#8220;panache and a touch of humor&#8221; quote from the article really resonated with me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t let sports affect me in a negative way&#8230;really, all I can do is look back on the Sox season, shake my head and laugh, and hope that the more cancerous elements of the team are gradually shoved aside to make room for younger, exciting players who have some guts and pride.</p>
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		<title>By: papalurchdxb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are examples of this across all sports around the world - Man City fans watching Man Utd win seemingly everything for 20 years before finally winning the title last season for the first time in about 60 years - the spirit amongst fans for this period of drought became as famous as the team itself, a bond forged in abject failure over many repeated seasons.  Those days are gone now, swept away by the wealth of an Arab Sheikh owner, hope replaced by demand and expectation - to be a City fan now is to be part of the machine, a corporate pleb, there is no place for sentiment anymore and that is much to the detriment of the club and those who truly care for it.

We all follow teams for a reason, I follow the Braves because we got TBS broadcasts in Jamaica and they introduced me to the sport, I follow Birmingham in English football because of my dad, who wanted someone to share in his misery no doubt (we are even more unsuccessful than Man City (and couldn&#039;t beat their goal keeper in a cup final even when he had a broken neck)) - and we should follow them because we care for them through thin and thinner.

We should let the media be the fashion followers, go after the flavour of the month as it suits their corporate egos to do so, but the real fans will follow their team to the bitter ends, will revel in the misery of defeat and very rarely, but enjoyably, taste the sweetness of success and be able to savour it for what it is - a success beyond expectation - not an almost obligatory requirement to achieve beyond the wildest dreams of most where the alternative is to see a missed title is a sign of the ends of the earth and miss the purpose of the game entirely.

You must be able to see something at its very worst to be able to appreciate it at its best.  There is no true fun in the burden of expectation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are examples of this across all sports around the world &#8211; Man City fans watching Man Utd win seemingly everything for 20 years before finally winning the title last season for the first time in about 60 years &#8211; the spirit amongst fans for this period of drought became as famous as the team itself, a bond forged in abject failure over many repeated seasons.  Those days are gone now, swept away by the wealth of an Arab Sheikh owner, hope replaced by demand and expectation &#8211; to be a City fan now is to be part of the machine, a corporate pleb, there is no place for sentiment anymore and that is much to the detriment of the club and those who truly care for it.</p>
<p>We all follow teams for a reason, I follow the Braves because we got TBS broadcasts in Jamaica and they introduced me to the sport, I follow Birmingham in English football because of my dad, who wanted someone to share in his misery no doubt (we are even more unsuccessful than Man City (and couldn&#8217;t beat their goal keeper in a cup final even when he had a broken neck)) &#8211; and we should follow them because we care for them through thin and thinner.</p>
<p>We should let the media be the fashion followers, go after the flavour of the month as it suits their corporate egos to do so, but the real fans will follow their team to the bitter ends, will revel in the misery of defeat and very rarely, but enjoyably, taste the sweetness of success and be able to savour it for what it is &#8211; a success beyond expectation &#8211; not an almost obligatory requirement to achieve beyond the wildest dreams of most where the alternative is to see a missed title is a sign of the ends of the earth and miss the purpose of the game entirely.</p>
<p>You must be able to see something at its very worst to be able to appreciate it at its best.  There is no true fun in the burden of expectation.</p>
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		<title>By: fissels</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a fan for 46 years. I withstood all the losing of those years and remained faithful. I reveled in the glory of the few winning seasons the Met&#039;s had. The thing that killed me as a fan is that the Wilpons are so desperate for money they took on a scumbag like Bill Maher as a minority owner. I can&#039;t root for any team that has a bum like that associated with it. It&#039;s kind of a relief to be free from the pain of rooting for them. Deep down in my heart though I&#039;m still blue and orange.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a fan for 46 years. I withstood all the losing of those years and remained faithful. I reveled in the glory of the few winning seasons the Met&#8217;s had. The thing that killed me as a fan is that the Wilpons are so desperate for money they took on a scumbag like Bill Maher as a minority owner. I can&#8217;t root for any team that has a bum like that associated with it. It&#8217;s kind of a relief to be free from the pain of rooting for them. Deep down in my heart though I&#8217;m still blue and orange.</p>
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		<title>By: approvenothing</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly, i feel as though my time of rooting for the Astros is coming to an end. I have been their for em the last few years but they are now in the division as my hometown team here in Arlington. Was always so sad watching them though, they just haven&#039;t been able to turn it around...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, i feel as though my time of rooting for the Astros is coming to an end. I have been their for em the last few years but they are now in the division as my hometown team here in Arlington. Was always so sad watching them though, they just haven&#8217;t been able to turn it around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 18thstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. You&#039;re really an ass, aren&#039;t you?

In other news, the Red Sox still have Ellsbury, Buchholz, Pedroia, a handful of nice-if-not-great players (Lester, Saltalamacchia, Ross), major league ready youngsters (Middlebrooks, Lavarnway, Kalish, Iglesias, Tazawa), young talent that gives reason for hope by 2014 (Bogaerts and Bradley), and a zillionaire owner who has shown a willingness to spend. I would hardly call that an organization in collapse even if they&#039;re clearly having a miserable, miserable year.

Mets fans, sorry to highjack your thread]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You&#8217;re really an ass, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>In other news, the Red Sox still have Ellsbury, Buchholz, Pedroia, a handful of nice-if-not-great players (Lester, Saltalamacchia, Ross), major league ready youngsters (Middlebrooks, Lavarnway, Kalish, Iglesias, Tazawa), young talent that gives reason for hope by 2014 (Bogaerts and Bradley), and a zillionaire owner who has shown a willingness to spend. I would hardly call that an organization in collapse even if they&#8217;re clearly having a miserable, miserable year.</p>
<p>Mets fans, sorry to highjack your thread</p>
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		<title>By: 18thstreet</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Red Sox fan, I don&#039;t know what to do with a horrible team. The Red Sox were marked by coming close before we finally won. It was torture. And yet, I&#039;d rather have been a Red Sox fan all those years than a fan of a team that never came close. 

Yes, I said &quot;we won.&quot; Whatever there was to win in 2004, I got some of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Red Sox fan, I don&#8217;t know what to do with a horrible team. The Red Sox were marked by coming close before we finally won. It was torture. And yet, I&#8217;d rather have been a Red Sox fan all those years than a fan of a team that never came close. </p>
<p>Yes, I said &#8220;we won.&#8221; Whatever there was to win in 2004, I got some of it.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m older than you. Old enough to remember what Shea Stadium was like in the early &#039;80s, a veritable ghost town. I remember being there as a kid with literally 5,000 people in the stands. Dave Kingman, George Foster, John Stearns, man, I remember them. All that losing made the winning that much sweeter. I cried tears of joy in 1986 when the Mets finally won. I can&#039;t imagine a Yankee fan understanding that feeling. Winning is a given for them. Hang in there, don. When you least expect it, it&#039;ll get better. At least now you have a beautiful stadium with what I hear is delicious food. 

Good article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m older than you. Old enough to remember what Shea Stadium was like in the early &#8217;80s, a veritable ghost town. I remember being there as a kid with literally 5,000 people in the stands. Dave Kingman, George Foster, John Stearns, man, I remember them. All that losing made the winning that much sweeter. I cried tears of joy in 1986 when the Mets finally won. I can&#8217;t imagine a Yankee fan understanding that feeling. Winning is a given for them. Hang in there, don. When you least expect it, it&#8217;ll get better. At least now you have a beautiful stadium with what I hear is delicious food. </p>
<p>Good article.</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep. That pretty much has always been how I&#039;ve felt about the Yankees.  I can acknowledge their history, admire individual players, but never root for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. That pretty much has always been how I&#8217;ve felt about the Yankees.  I can acknowledge their history, admire individual players, but never root for them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rabbit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Morning Cur,
I think some of us are just born with the &quot;root for the underdog&quot; gene. Now there&#039;s a doctoral research topic for you.
As a little kid I was enthralled with the 62 Mets and their teams of the 60&#039;s even though we lived in Phillies fan territory.   
Then, cable was available and we got to watch the Braves on a daily basis.  During that era when it also seems that Craig became a fan, the Braves weren&#039;t any better than the Beavers.  It was mostly Dale Murphy and a bunch of other guys. The Braves&#039; success didn&#039;t happen til a decade later when the team assembled a HOF pitching staff, Magic Larry was a regular, and players like David Justice, Andruw Jones, the Crime Dog (Did you know that Fulton County Stadium caught fire as a tribute to his arrival?) were on the roster.
So, Craig and other Braves fans have been there...done that. 
Hopefully, fans of the Pirates, Astros, Beavers, etc. will get to see the same kind of success that the Nats have had this year.
Patience, cur.  My father, a long time Phillies and Red Sox fan lived just long enough to see the Red Sox win a WS. 
BTW If you are online later today, I&#039;ll watch the Beavers game with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning Cur,<br />
I think some of us are just born with the &#8220;root for the underdog&#8221; gene. Now there&#8217;s a doctoral research topic for you.<br />
As a little kid I was enthralled with the 62 Mets and their teams of the 60&#8242;s even though we lived in Phillies fan territory.<br />
Then, cable was available and we got to watch the Braves on a daily basis.  During that era when it also seems that Craig became a fan, the Braves weren&#8217;t any better than the Beavers.  It was mostly Dale Murphy and a bunch of other guys. The Braves&#8217; success didn&#8217;t happen til a decade later when the team assembled a HOF pitching staff, Magic Larry was a regular, and players like David Justice, Andruw Jones, the Crime Dog (Did you know that Fulton County Stadium caught fire as a tribute to his arrival?) were on the roster.<br />
So, Craig and other Braves fans have been there&#8230;done that.<br />
Hopefully, fans of the Pirates, Astros, Beavers, etc. will get to see the same kind of success that the Nats have had this year.<br />
Patience, cur.  My father, a long time Phillies and Red Sox fan lived just long enough to see the Red Sox win a WS.<br />
BTW If you are online later today, I&#8217;ll watch the Beavers game with you.</p>
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		<title>By: randygnyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing better than the mets losing is an entire red sox organizational collapse.  That it&#039;s happening to both, simultaneously, is baseball ecstasy.  The Yankees pursuit of the AL East crown is ALMOST secondary, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing better than the mets losing is an entire red sox organizational collapse.  That it&#8217;s happening to both, simultaneously, is baseball ecstasy.  The Yankees pursuit of the AL East crown is ALMOST secondary, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: mazblast</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a fan of the Pirates, have been for 50 seasons now.  That is the cross I bear.

Being a Pirate fan is a test.  A test of character, a test of strength, perhaps a test of foolishness.  It is God&#039;s way of balancing the books for most of us being Steelers fans.

Frankly, though, I&#039;d prefer the &quot;unbalanced&quot; books of the Seventies.  Thank goodness for being old enough to remember those halcyon days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a fan of the Pirates, have been for 50 seasons now.  That is the cross I bear.</p>
<p>Being a Pirate fan is a test.  A test of character, a test of strength, perhaps a test of foolishness.  It is God&#8217;s way of balancing the books for most of us being Steelers fans.</p>
<p>Frankly, though, I&#8217;d prefer the &#8220;unbalanced&#8221; books of the Seventies.  Thank goodness for being old enough to remember those halcyon days.</p>
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		<title>By: dondada10</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a 27 year old, die-hard Mets fan.  I was born in 1985, and became a fan in &#039;94 (the strike year).  

It hurts.  The Yankees have won 5 World Championships during that span, one of which was against the Mets (with the clinching game at Shea).

Rooting for the Knicks and Jets hasn&#039;t exactly been a picnic, either.  

With that being said, and I think several fan bases can attest to this (I&#039;m looking at you: Indians, A&#039;s, Royals, Pirates, Padres, ect.) that if my team ever does win a World Series, I can die right then and there a happy man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a 27 year old, die-hard Mets fan.  I was born in 1985, and became a fan in &#8217;94 (the strike year).  </p>
<p>It hurts.  The Yankees have won 5 World Championships during that span, one of which was against the Mets (with the clinching game at Shea).</p>
<p>Rooting for the Knicks and Jets hasn&#8217;t exactly been a picnic, either.  </p>
<p>With that being said, and I think several fan bases can attest to this (I&#8217;m looking at you: Indians, A&#8217;s, Royals, Pirates, Padres, ect.) that if my team ever does win a World Series, I can die right then and there a happy man.</p>
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