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	<title>Comments on: Astros lose 104th game, clinch No. 1 pick, set record-low attendance on same night</title>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 19:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the Reds as a real power. Don&#039;t know enough about the Orioles. I don&#039;t think the Yankees are built for a short series (unless Pettite can really keep it up). Nats, Cards and A&#039;s look dangerous. But it&#039;s hard to see past the Rangers in a short series. But what do I know?

I love baseball. It&#039;s the best sport to me. But I have a great wife, a cool grandson, and am once retired and working a job I like for fun money. I&#039;m going to tie my panties in a knot because the Astros are bad? Not in this life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the Reds as a real power. Don&#8217;t know enough about the Orioles. I don&#8217;t think the Yankees are built for a short series (unless Pettite can really keep it up). Nats, Cards and A&#8217;s look dangerous. But it&#8217;s hard to see past the Rangers in a short series. But what do I know?</p>
<p>I love baseball. It&#8217;s the best sport to me. But I have a great wife, a cool grandson, and am once retired and working a job I like for fun money. I&#8217;m going to tie my panties in a knot because the Astros are bad? Not in this life.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just glad you haven&#039;t committed commenter&#039;s seppuku (that&#039;s where you pick your favourite saber stat, sharpen it to needle point and scalpel edge, and fall upon it. Very painful). 

So you gots the Cards, eh? Fine. I see your Cards and raise you the Rangers. I see a repeat of last season&#039;s WS. Why? Because that was a really good series, that&#039;s why.  I WANT to see that again. So I&#039;m backing your boys at an emotional level. BUT, if you wanna step away from the id and go straight ego then I predict something different. I see this as the Reds and the Orioles. Younger, faster, better.  With pitching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just glad you haven&#8217;t committed commenter&#8217;s seppuku (that&#8217;s where you pick your favourite saber stat, sharpen it to needle point and scalpel edge, and fall upon it. Very painful). </p>
<p>So you gots the Cards, eh? Fine. I see your Cards and raise you the Rangers. I see a repeat of last season&#8217;s WS. Why? Because that was a really good series, that&#8217;s why.  I WANT to see that again. So I&#8217;m backing your boys at an emotional level. BUT, if you wanna step away from the id and go straight ego then I predict something different. I see this as the Reds and the Orioles. Younger, faster, better.  With pitching.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fire sale started in mid-July. Not that they were doing well when it started. They have, maybe, three to five players that belong on a MLB roster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fire sale started in mid-July. Not that they were doing well when it started. They have, maybe, three to five players that belong on a MLB roster.</p>
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		<title>By: thefalcon123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefalcon123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until June 27th, Houston was merely a bad team, going 32-43. 

Since then, they are 18-61. The .227 winning percentage is worse than that of the 62 Mets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until June 27th, Houston was merely a bad team, going 32-43. </p>
<p>Since then, they are 18-61. The .227 winning percentage is worse than that of the 62 Mets.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just glad they didn&#039;t tie the Mets modern day record of 120. 112 is the worst they can do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just glad they didn&#8217;t tie the Mets modern day record of 120. 112 is the worst they can do.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I got it after my serious reply. But the Cards will still be my NL team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I got it after my serious reply. But the Cards will still be my NL team.</p>
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		<title>By: unlost1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they got a ways to go to break  the record of 134 losses
http://www.wcnet.org/~dlfleitz/cleve.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they got a ways to go to break  the record of 134 losses<br />
<a href="http://www.wcnet.org/~dlfleitz/cleve.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wcnet.org/~dlfleitz/cleve.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: zacksdad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zacksdad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nolanwiffle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nolanwiffle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe the old baseball adage......you&#039;re going to win 54, you&#039;re going to lose 54, it&#039;s what you do with that next 54 that matters.

We&#039;re now approaching modern-era, historically bad territory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the old baseball adage&#8230;&#8230;you&#8217;re going to win 54, you&#8217;re going to lose 54, it&#8217;s what you do with that next 54 that matters.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re now approaching modern-era, historically bad territory.</p>
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		<title>By: boh930</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[looks like Mark Appel will be getting his degree from Stanford after all. Poor little fella]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like Mark Appel will be getting his degree from Stanford after all. Poor little fella</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just joking.....I was kind of surprised I didn&#039;t hear/see more Cardinal fans at the game last night....the crowd that was there seemed to be having a good time.

Good luck in the AL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just joking&#8230;..I was kind of surprised I didn&#8217;t hear/see more Cardinal fans at the game last night&#8230;.the crowd that was there seemed to be having a good time.</p>
<p>Good luck in the AL.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure you know this, though many don&#039;t. The old Houston Buffs were a StL minor league franchise. I also grew up admiring the Cards teams of the &#039;60&#039;s (Gibson, etc.). And in spite of the buzz on a lot of this site, I regard Cards fans (in the stands, anyway) as some of the most intelligent baseball fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you know this, though many don&#8217;t. The old Houston Buffs were a StL minor league franchise. I also grew up admiring the Cards teams of the &#8217;60&#8242;s (Gibson, etc.). And in spite of the buzz on a lot of this site, I regard Cards fans (in the stands, anyway) as some of the most intelligent baseball fans.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently not many from the StL area relocate to the Houston area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently not many from the StL area relocate to the Houston area.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over in the ATH section, Gator ran a line from &quot;Nausea&quot; by Sartre past us. Per life as as an Astros&#039; fan, that probably sums it up. In fact, if fans were going to the games, I would regard that as rewarding bad behavior by management. That is our best hope in the long run. Houston is not, in general, a good &quot;fans&quot; town. That is a good thing. If they are offered an inferior product, they walk with their entertainment dollar. Management can improve or die.

Cur, you asked yesterday about how I - as a fellow-follower of losers - was going through the playoffs. I didn&#039;t reply until late last night, so you probably didn&#039;t see. Emotionally, I have a long history with the Cards. As to likely, right now I see the Rangers and the Reds (with a nod to the Nats).

But I&#039;m a lousy predictor. As to next year with the Astros, though, I can easily predict continued futility in a harder division.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over in the ATH section, Gator ran a line from &#8220;Nausea&#8221; by Sartre past us. Per life as as an Astros&#8217; fan, that probably sums it up. In fact, if fans were going to the games, I would regard that as rewarding bad behavior by management. That is our best hope in the long run. Houston is not, in general, a good &#8220;fans&#8221; town. That is a good thing. If they are offered an inferior product, they walk with their entertainment dollar. Management can improve or die.</p>
<p>Cur, you asked yesterday about how I &#8211; as a fellow-follower of losers &#8211; was going through the playoffs. I didn&#8217;t reply until late last night, so you probably didn&#8217;t see. Emotionally, I have a long history with the Cards. As to likely, right now I see the Rangers and the Reds (with a nod to the Nats).</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m a lousy predictor. As to next year with the Astros, though, I can easily predict continued futility in a harder division.</p>
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		<title>By: crispybasil</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crispybasil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talk about winning the...TRIPLE CROWN!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about winning the&#8230;TRIPLE CROWN!</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone go check on Stex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone go check on Stex.</p>
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