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Jason Varitek is close to an agreement to work for the Red Sox

Sep 26, 2012, 8:53 AM EST

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It’s been nearly a year since Jason Varitek hung up the tools of ignorance. Now he’s looking to go back to work for the Sox:

Retired Red Sox catcher Jason Varitek, according to a major league source, is “close” to agreement on a role within the Sox organization. It is possible that he will head to Florida in the coming days to work with Red Sox minor leaguers taking part in the fall instructional league.

No sense of what the job is yet, though many have speculated that he could one day manage the Sox.  Gotta walk before you run, though.

  1. dcfan4life - Sep 26, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Robin Ventura had zero managing experience but his baseball knowledge and the respect he commanded got him a major league managing job. Why cant the same happen for Varitek? Especially since the Red Sox desperately need leadership from someone the players respect.

    • shoptaw70 - Sep 26, 2012 at 9:25 AM

      Mike Matheny as well. Could be that managerial inexperience is the new market inefficiency.

      • Alex K - Sep 26, 2012 at 10:08 AM

        The difference is those guys didn’t play on the White Sox or Cardinals as little as 2 years ago. Varitek is probably too close to the current players to be able to effectively manage.

      • ptfu - Sep 26, 2012 at 10:14 AM

        I can see Varitek as a successful Red Sox manager, but not right now. There is simply not enough distance between his playing career and the current Red Sox players. It would be too easy for those players to continue seeing Varitek as another one of the guys–and maybe Varitek himself might fall into that trap. Undermined authority hardly seems like the way to change a clubhouse culture.

        In comparison, Robin Ventura’s final season was 2004 and Mike Matheny’s final season was 2006. Very few ex-teammates were still there when they came back to manage 8 and 6 years later, respectively. Plus the White Sox and Cardinals didn’t have the clubhouse dysfunction that the current Red Sox do.

        If Varitek wants to be a successful Red Sox manager, he should wait until after the veteran core of the team is fully broken up. Pedroia, Ortiz, Lester, Lackey–they all need to go before Varitek can win.

      • ptfu - Sep 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM

        And I look silly after cross posting with Alex K. So it goes.

  2. willclarkgameface - Sep 26, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Look…hear this now: Jason Varitek is NOT a leader. He never was and never will be. I don’t care that the clubhouse manager sewed a “C” to his jersey to make it look like he was a captain, but he’s NOT – I repeat – NOT a leader.

    Go back to last September when the guy that he had been playing under for 8 seasons was about to get his ass handed to him if Texas tough guy Josh Beckett and his pal John Lackey didn’t stop the chicken and beer parties in the clubhouse. They didn’t, Tito got fired, and where was Varitek? Was he off in the corner of the dugout counting the pennies he got for next to no work during the last 2 seasons of being on the team?

    The Varitek thing is a PR move orchestrated by Larry Lucchino. That’s it. They want to restore good will in during the off season because they care about their fans want to salvage the last bozos willing to buy season tickets that don’t have the names Stub and Hub and Ace and Ticket anywhere in their name. And that’s not because they won’t be able to sell the tickets on those sites. They just want to make sure that silly FAKE sellout streak continues.

    Varitek is a schmuck and don’t believe for one second that he’d be good for anything except hitting on the next sideline reporter that shitstain cable network NESN throws down on the field. Heidi Watney and Hazel Mae (allegedly) weren’t enough for the captain.

    90 loses in 2012 here we come!

    • hockeyflow33 - Sep 26, 2012 at 11:12 AM

      Backstopped two World Series titles, caught 4 no hitters and was widely recognized as being the best in-game manager for his pitching staff.

      His job was not to babysit other men.

      • willclarkgameface - Sep 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM

        Man…you must be from Boston and drink the WEEI Kool Aid by the jug.

        The best in-game manager for his pitching staff? Really? Isn’t that what the pitching coach AND the manager are for. Varitek did his JOB. He learned about the other hitters and called a decent game, but so what. He was supposed to do that. This is the Chris Rock argument of “I take care of my kids.”

        And as far as catching 2 World Series titles and 4 no hitters: he didn’t do that alone. These are team accomplishments and to be perfectly honest in this era of Wild Card baseball, it’s all very lucky circumstance that he was able to do that. What if this was in the pre-divisional era? Varitek would have been going home to play house with his Sideline Reporter of the Month.

        Finally, in response to your babysitting comment: bullshit. You wear that “C”, you take it all the way. You think Derek Jeter was going to let something like that happen in New York? No fucking way. I regularly root against the Yankees because I hate to see them win so often, but if you are a true fan of baseball, you have to absolutely admit that Jeter carries himself in the most professional way anyone could be expected to do. And those guys around him respect him and listen to him. They are all in check because HE is the true in-house principal. Varitek is just collecting paychecks to stay connected to the game and to local Boston poon. THAT’S IT.

      • hockeyflow33 - Sep 26, 2012 at 12:47 PM

        You are aware that these are all men and are responsible for their own actions right? If a player doesn’t want to do something, he’s not going to do it, regardless of whether Jeter, Varitek or anyone tells them otherwise.

  3. hockeyflow33 - Sep 26, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    I found it interesting this year that no one wrote about the correlation between Varitek’s departure and poor pitching by the veterans

    • willclarkgameface - Sep 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM

      You know why the pitchers sucked? It’s not because their woobie was gone. It’s because they are ALL lazy and don’t do their homework.

      Are you going to attribute Greg Maddux’s success to all his catchers? NO WAY. Greg did his homework like all athletes making millions of dollars should do. HE kept himself competitive by learning and reading and keeping track of EVERYTHING.

      There is a culture in the Boston clubhouse that still exists even though Beckett is gone and that needs to be broken completely by bailing on Lackey this winter as well. THEN you will start to see Lester and company pitch better because their new manager ain’t gonna put up with the whiny, cry baby chicken and beer shit.

      Another cup of Kool Aid for you sir?

      • kiwicricket - Sep 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM

        Give it a rest, man.

      • townballblog - Sep 26, 2012 at 12:38 PM

        Actually, I’m sure Greg Maddux had a bad year here and there. As to your point about Greg and his catchers… well, there are no “Greg Madduxes” in Boston’s staff so it’s a moot point.

      • hockeyflow33 - Sep 26, 2012 at 12:42 PM

        I don’t really see why you’re so angry about this but Beckett’s numbers were always down whenever he didn’t throw to Varitek so it’s not too crazy to think that losing a veteran player, with as much information as Varitek kept, was a problem. He’s not the sole reason but it’s certainly a contributing factor.

  4. gallyhatch - Sep 26, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    Willclarkgameface, what are you so pissed about? I know, it’s the first time in history that an athlete knocked boots with a reporter, stop the presses! But how is that at all relevant here?
    And you’re comparing these Red Sox pitchers with Greg Maddux? Sounds to me like you’re the guy who doesn’t know all that much about the game.

  5. teaspoon1731 - Sep 26, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Willclarkgameface, you think Tek wasn’t a leader? Listen to what his teammates say about him. Listen to the way the coaching staff talks about him. It’s not media koolaid. Those are the people that matter, the ones who actually dealt with him on a daily basis.

    As for what he did in the last two seasons: he did exactly what a veteren backstop looking at retirement does. He mentored his replacement. The reverence with which Salty talks about him, the way he credits Tek for making him the catcher he is, that is exactly what he should have been doing and exactly what he did.

    The lockerroom stuff, the beer and chicken bs, what was he gonna do? They’re adults. Jeter would never be in a position to have to deal with that because the atmosphere in Boston and New York is completely different. Yankees can’t have long hair, have to be relatively clean shaven… it’s a complete dictatorship there. Apples and oranges my friend.

  6. mazblast - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    If nothing else, Red Sox fans will know that there’s someone in the front office who’s more interested in winning than in the not-so-happy horsesh** that seems to be universal there.
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    willclarkgameface–I don’t quite get the anger. In addition, your Greg Maddux analogy is faulty. If the catcher was/is irrelevant, why did Maddux have Eddie Perez as his personal catcher during his Braves years? Why not the offensively much better Javy Lopez?

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