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Adrian Beltre says that Eric Gagne should have named names

Sep 27, 2012, 8:54 AM EST

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Yesterday it was revealed that Eric Gagne claims in his upcoming biography that 80% of his teammates with the Dodgers back in the day took PEDs.  Adrian Beltre was one of his teammates back then — and people have speculated about him using PEDs in the past — so it was understandable that someone asked him about it yesterday:

“He should have named names. I don’t know what you want me to tell you … For him to say something like that, he should have come out with names instead of a percentage.”

Sounds like the same old dance we always hear when this kind of thing bubbles up. Next thing I figure we’ll hear is Gagne walking back his claim of 80%. And at some point in the future someone else from that team will be outed as a PED user and it will all bubble up again.

  1. delawarephilliesfan - Sep 27, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    Maybe he meant Metric 80%

  2. willclarkgameface - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Are we convinced that in his contract year Adrian Beltre was NOT on anything? I’m not.

    • thereisaparty - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:37 AM

      Do you apply this logic to all career years? Did he then stop taking them? What’s your explanation for down years? Performance is talent + luck. In any year we are unaware of the combination of these two variables.

      Beltre had a huge offensive year when he should have been approaching his peak. Then he moved to Safeco. After moving out of Seattle, he has had 3 of his 4 best offensive seasons, when he should be starting his decline phase.

      Your ignorant and lazy accusations of steroids serve no purpose.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:39 AM

        Unfortunately, they do serve a purpose: to assassinate the character of a real human being.

      • vallewho - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM

        You left “motivation” out of the equation.

    • seattlej - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:23 AM

      Well, no, we’re not “convinced”. That’s a fairly high standard to meet, isn’t it? I, for one, am not convinced that any MLB player did not use steroids in any give season between, say 1985 and present day.

      But that doesn’t mean that I think anyone in particular did use in any given season. And even if I did, I probably wouldn’t go around throwing out baseless accusations.

      Look, in the state of MLB today, I would not be surprised over ANY player being suspended tomorrow. Not Jeter, not Moyer, nobody. We know there are players that cheat, and we know that there are those that don’t (though, it’s actually quite hard or impossible to prove you didn’t cheat if you’re suspected of it). To think that baseball is predominantly clean these days is probably pretty naive. While MLB testing is strict when compared to other leagues, it’s pretty weak compared to cycling or Olympic sports. To think that at least some of the players, with access to fairly vast amounts of money, haven’t found ways around the testing is ridiculous. It’s certainly not as easy to cheat, and maybe the cheating has a smaller impact on performance, but I would guess that it’s still there to a greater extent than the few players that get caught.

  3. tfbuckfutter - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Here’s the problem with his math…..80% of the 40 man roster is 32.

    But he didn’t say 80% of the roster. He said 80% of his teammates, of which there are only 39.

    So that means 31.2 players + Gagne (32.2 players on the 40 man roster).

    This begs the question what is the deal with that .2? I don’t remember David Eckstein playing for the Dodgers.

    • byjiminy - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:09 AM

      I’m pretty sure he just meant one player was using PEDs in only one-fifth of his body.

      • number42is1 - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM

        of maybe a specific organ shrunk down to 1/5 its normal size????

      • bravojawja - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:44 AM

        I was in the pool!

    • delawarephilliesfan - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:20 AM

      Your not factoring in the exchange rate with the Euro at that time. Also, both GAAP and IFRS allow for a depreciation of HGH users in certain circumstances

      • number42is1 - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:24 AM

        73.4% of all stats are made up on the spot.

      • tfbuckfutter - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:52 AM

        Only 14% of people know that though.

    • foreverchipper10 - Sep 27, 2012 at 10:10 AM

      The might not have had the same result for everyone who used, because as we all know, 60% of they time they work every time.

  4. hisgirlgotburrelled - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Probably felt like 80% because Paul Lo Duca was all up in their face about it… The next most-mentioned name in the Mitchell Report after Roger Clemens was Lo Duca.

  5. skids003 - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    They need to do something about that nickname. Trolley Dodger offends me.

  6. koufaxmitzvah - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    80% of Dodgers using steroids = 100 Jewish financiers funding a crappy film about Islam

    Nice and easy round numbers for stoopid people to cling to.

  7. realgone2 - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    You got me blacklisted?! She name names!

  8. ctc73 - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    No Adrian…in the interest of self preservation, I really don’t think you want Gagne naming names!

  9. phillysoulfan - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Instead of naming the people who took PEDs, cause that would be like you know, ratting people out…maybe he should tell us the names of the people who did not use them? Plus, it’d be easier to type.

  10. anythingbutyanks - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    I actually agree with Beltre on this. If you won’t name names, shut your trap. Otherwise all you accomplish is to cast suspicion on the innocent as well as the guilty. If Gagne is right, then 20% of his former teammates are now open to questions that they don’t deserve. And to assume that the worst 8 players on the team are the only ones above suspicion is idiotic. What if Beltre really IS clean? I don’t have a dog in that fight, but he’s certainly right that it isn’t fair that he has to answer questions because Gagne has a mouth but no balls.

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