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Mike Trout: still a Phillies fan

Sep 27, 2012, 10:59 AM EDT

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Commence your six-year premature free agency speculation, Philly Pholks. Mike Trout grew up in Phillies country and, according to his dad in this interview, Trout still roots for them:

Trout’s father recalled a story from a few years back when in the middle of the night, Jeff heard Mike scream from his room.

“Dad, we got Roy Halladay!” Mike yelled. To which his Dad responded: “the Angels got Halladay?”

“No, the Phillies did!” Mike replied. “Son, you’re a member of the Angels. What’s with this we?!”

That was in December 2009, six months after Trout was drafted by the Angels and had already played in Rookie and Low-A ball for the club.

Still, it was almost three years ago. We should test this to see if he’s still Phaithful. Quick: someone tell him that Ryan Howard‘s contract sucks and see if he gets all whiny about it.

  1. indaburg - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Although I am no fan of the Phillies, I like this story. The part of me that isn’t completely cynical hopes that he always keeps a soft spot for his childhood team and remembers that once upon a time, he was just like us. The fans. Unless the Angels play the Phillies. Then he should crush them like a bug.

    • cur68 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM

      Crush them beneath his sandaled feet, oy.

    • natstowngreg - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM

      Indeed. Trout seems like a fine young man, except for this one character flaw. Significant, but certainly not fatal.

      • indaburg - Sep 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM

        Nobody’s perfect.

  2. thefalcon123 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    I’m just saying:

    $105 Million left (at least) for a first baseman who ranks *last* among all first baseman in WAR is a pretty awful deal.

    It does feel pretty good to have been completely and utterly right on about how terrible that contract was gonna be though.

    • thefalcon123 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      As a Cardinals fan, you are free to respond to my comments with “Rick Wise for Steve Carlton, bitch!”. At which point, you will have won.

    • paperlions - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:22 AM

      I guess….but nearly everyone thought it was an awful deal when it was announced. He had been steadily declining for 2+ years before that, and he wasn’t going to be a FA for 2 more years. That was the shooting fish in a barrel of mocking contract extensions.

      The Pujols deal will be just as bad. This year is another step in his now 4th straight year of steady decline (of course, he’s still been better this year than Howard was in all but his very best years). Pujols right on schedule for a 32 yr old player with respect to decline.

      • thefalcon123 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM

        True, but since some of predictions have included:

        1. Trading Brett Wallace for Matt Holliday is a stupid move long term


        2. Trading Dan Haren for Mark Mulder is a good win-now trade

        …well…I have to cling to every correct guess I make, no matter how obvious.

    • bigmeechy74 - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM

      You were completely and utterly right just like almost everyone else. Did anyone think that was a good contract? Besides Amaro?

      • crpls - Sep 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM

        A portion of Phillies fans have always vigorously defended it. Not sure how many are left.

    • phila777phan - Sep 28, 2012 at 6:04 PM

      The Phillies didn’t pay Howard to rank among the top first baseman in WAR, they paid him to drive runs in which he has done and still does.

  3. Jeremiah Graves - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Come on now, I think we all know that the Twins are going to be very proactive and trade Trevor Plouffe and Brain Dozier straight-up for Trout this off-season. Sign Trout to a 15-year, $45M deal and run out the fastest, best defensive outfield in the history of forever.


  4. phisticuffs - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    *sigh* I can consider myself officially trolled this morning. I realize that the 3 Phillies fans who still view the Howard signing as defensible all regularly post here, but most of us have viewed his contract as an albatross from the moment the ink started to dry.

    • greymares - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      C,mon man the guy has played for less than1/2 a season this year with 60 rbi who else has done that of course he’s worth the money.

      • paperlions - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:28 AM

        Thank you.

      • paperlions - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

        To clarify, people realize I was thanking him for making me laugh….right?

    • xmatt0926x - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:25 AM

      Agreed totally phisticuffs. I think Craig’s views are clouded by the fans on this site who battle him on the Phillies on a daily basis. When that contract was signed there were plenty of questions by Phillies fans locally as to why Amaro would do that deal 2 years before he would be a free agent when he was obviously not adjusting to the pitchers as fast as they were adjusting to him. There are plenty of rational fans out there but that gets obscured by the fans here who feel they have to challenge Craig on every Phillies related post because Craig admits he likes to troll the Phillies. That contract will define Amaro’s era with this team for years to come.

    • deepstblu - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:33 PM

      I think the Phillies knew they were overpaying for Howard and did it anyway as a shot across the bow of the rest of the league, a sign that they were going to become major players and not lose any more Rolens and Schillings over money. The old John Stewart lyric “we’ll pay up in blood when this marker comes due” wasn’t about baseball, but it seems to apply so often to things that happen in the game.

  5. lazlosother - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    After the Werth post this is just piling on Craig. You sir, are an evil genius.

  6. phillysoulfan - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    I suspect that Trout will always be this way when it comes to the Phillies. No one “becomes” a Phillies fan. We are born into it.

    Ryan Howard’s WAR statistic. Yeah….uuummm…I think he pretty much proved that this statistic is not only meaningless but completely flawed. If you don’t understand by now why, then I would respectfully suggest that you are not fit to draw breath so please stop and do not procreate.

    • thefalcon123 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:28 AM

      “No one “becomes” a Phillies fan. We are born into it.”

      Every Phillies fan I know suddenly became a fan around 2007 without showing any prior interest in the team.

      Sorry, I’m sure there are a lot of born Phillies fans. But man, they sure have a hell of a lot of fair-weather fans too.

      • phillysoulfan - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:45 AM

        The 2007 Phillies fans are Eagles fans wearing Phillies clothing. They were the first to jump off the band wagon. Or is it ban wagon?

        Anyway, like I said, Phillies fans are born not made. My nephew is proof of that.

      • delawarephilliesfan - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:48 AM

        I can truly say I don’t know anyone who is a Phillies fan who was not a fan well before that

      • xmatt0926x - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:03 PM

        Because no other teams get more fans showing interest when they begin to win, right falcon? of course there are fair weather fans in Philly just like there are everywhere else. you also have to keep in perspective what the state of the franchise was before ownership got that new stadium. The Phillies were the Pirates and Royals for a generation before the new stadium created all the extra revenue. They lost like hell, the ownership consistently told the fan base that Philadelphia was a SMALL market and couldn’t compete. Offseason aquisitions were washed up nobodies who had no chance to turn things around. Why would 40,000 people consistently show up to support a franchise that tells it’s fans beforehand that they will not be competing? If the Pirates and Royals start winning consistently in the next decade and fans begin to fill those parks, are they too fair-weather fans? I’ve made this argument many times on this site. Don’t be critical of fans who show up once the team starts winning. Be critical of the fans who still don’t show up even after the team starts winning. Go ask Chipper Jones about that. I believe he calles the Ted a “morgue” the other day.

      • xmatt0926x - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM

        Also Falcon, I’m really not trying to attack you personally or fight with you, but I’m not sure you or any fan are qualified to decide which people were fans or not before 2007. It’s always funny when people throw these generalizations out about fan bases they don’t live with or associate with. Just as a counter argument from someone who has actually lived in the Philly area, all the fans I know and grew up with followed them as closely then as they do now when they knew the team had no chance to win or even threaten to win year in and year out. I’m sure even the Cardinals gain a few fans here and there when the team wins a title.

      • natstowngreg - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

        @xmatt — Excellent points.

        Fans vary in the intensity with which they follow their favorite teams. For some, the intensity is always there, regardless of record. For others (those known as “front-runners” or “casual fans”), the intensity grows with winning. It’s one thing to be a fan of your favorite team, another to actually buy the tickets and merchandise, watch the TV and radio casts, and follow the daily reporting on the team. Not a criticism of Phillies’ or any other team’s fans, just an observation.

      • dino1730 - Oct 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM

        Name one professional sports franchise that when they start playing well and contending never had fair weather fans come out to support?

    • lazlosother - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:29 AM

      Can we still at least practice? Nothing wrong with the old college try right?

    • paperlions - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:32 AM

      As flawed as each version of WAR is….each is still far more useful than pitcher wins, RBI, or BA.

      ….and the flaws in WAR are pretty much restricted to the defensive metrics. wOBA and wRC+ are fantastic measures of individual contribution to offense (though neither includes base running).

      • hackerjay - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM

        wOBA includes stolen bases, though from what I understand they are planning on stripping it out this offseason in favor of having seperate hitting and running stats.

      • stlouis1baseball - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM

        What I find funny is (regardless of which sabermetric stat we are discussing)…someone will always find something discount it versus another sabermetric stat.
        Then…someone will will point out why the other guys stat is fatally flawed.
        You know what? Phuq it. I am going all in with runs scored.
        If you are a pitcher…too bad.
        You suck…cause’ you don’t score any runs. Fair enough?

      • b7p19 - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:34 PM

        Don’t hate something just because you don’t understand it St. Louis guy.

      • paperlions - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM

        If you don’t understand how the utility of stats is determined….you probably shouldn’t bother commenting. There are decades of reliable data available that is used to evaluate how newly developed stats correlate with offensive production. wOBA and wRC+ aren’t good stats because they are new or fancy….they are good stats because they correlate highly (more highly than anything else) with offensive production and because they include EVERY type of contribution a player makes to scoring runs.

    • thefalcon123 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM

      Yeah, because a first baseman with a .726 OPS is secretly really awesome.

      You just can’t tell because of all the outs he makes.

      • phillysoulfan - Nov 22, 2012 at 9:42 AM

        Phillies winning percentage with Ryan Howard .586 Phillies winning percentage without Ryan Howard .402…think there is a correlation?

  7. hisgirlgotburrelled - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Well maybe he’ll give the Phillies a hometown discount, you know, like how Cliff Lee gave them a discount to come back.

  8. protius - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    This explains a lot; the kid is part gorilla.

    • nolanwiffle - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM

      This comment just became an instant classic!

      • protius - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM

        I’ll be here all week.

    • nolanwiffle - Sep 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM

      I’ll be sure to try the veal, and tip my waitresses and bartenders well.

  9. voteforno6 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    To quote Osgood in Some Like It Hot: “Well, nobody’s perfect!”

  10. pinkfloydprism - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Great. He is a Philly fan. Must be a jackass then.

  11. number42is1 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    This is great news…. he can sit on the couch with the in Oct. and watch the playoffs

    • b7p19 - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM

      simple, yet effective

      • stlouis1baseball - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:21 PM

        “Don’t hate something just because you don’t understand it St. Louis guy.”

        ??? I didn’t say anything about hating anything. Further, I didn’t say anything about not understand something. I simply stated (in a nutshell)…regardless of the stat in question…there will always been one (or 25) in the crowd who jumps in to explain how their “go to stat” is the be all-end-all.
        Obviously…my comment in regards to ‘runs scored’ wasn’t tongue-in-cheek enough for you huh?

  12. yahmule - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Trout was also born in New Jersey. Despite this double handicap, he’s polite, well spoken and a fantastic teammate. The exception that proves the rule.

  13. phillyphannn83 - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Mike Trout: doesn’t matter he’s probably the best outfielder in MLB, he’s now a target for Craig

    As for RyHo…he earned that nickname, the deal sucks, his swing sucks, he’s so predictable its pathetic he even gets a single hit. Dude swings at everything low and away no matter how far it is from the plate. He doesnt step into his swing. Stands flat-footed in he box. He cant hit sliders. Chokes in the big moment. The only good you can say about him is his defense is greatly improved and he strikes out a little less but still far too much. Send him home to StL please.

    • paperlions - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:51 AM

      A target? So….you think he suddenly is rooting for Cabrera to “win” the triple crown and MVP?

      • phillyphannn83 - Sep 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM

        no genius, he i sa target for being a Phillies fan. You’re on here all the time and are well aware of Craig’s propensity for trolling Philles fans, we are targets. Trout is a Phillies fan, hence he is now a target. Didn’t think it was that hard to follow. Where on Earth did you get the idea what I said had ANYTHING to do with Cabrera or the MVP race??

      • nolanwiffle - Sep 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM

        Philly fans take their baseball and their HBT pretty seriously. Craig is now targeting you? Lighten up, Chester. It’s all in good fun.

  14. kevinleaptrot - Sep 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Maybe he’ll weigh in on Jayson Werth’s fake throw to the fans last night! I can hardly wait.

  15. Francisco (FC) - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Quick: someone tell him that Ryan Howard‘s contract sucks and see if he gets all whiny about it.

    Too easy Craig… it doesn’t have your usual… Je ne ces’t quoi…

    • Francisco (FC) - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:11 PM

      Dagnabbit, can’t write French properly…

      • Utley's Hair - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

        That’s alright. There are folks on here who can’t use English properly, either.

  16. Utley's Hair - Sep 27, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Dom Brown and Kevin Frandsen to the Angels for Mike Trout. Let’s get it done, NinJr!!!!!

    • natstowngreg - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

      Throw in that Ruf kid. He hits Nats’ pitching too well.

      • Utley's Hair - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:47 PM

        Absolutely not. Nothing but potential upside for that kid. Don’t take his 3-for-7 against the Gnats personally. It was only his first two starts. I see him doing the same against a whole lot of other teams, as well.

  17. summeroftony - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Duh. He sure won’t be a brave.

  18. mdpickles - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    There is nothing wrong with this. He is closer to 12 than 30. Wait until he is 25-27 yrs old. That fandom for the Phils will fade.

  19. El Bravo - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    “Still, it was almost three years ago. We should test this to see if he’s still Phaithful. Quick: someone tell him that Ryan Howard‘s contract sucks and see if he gets all whiny about it.”

    HAHAHAHAHHAHA……Craig doesn’t win the internet everyday, but he certainly one that bitch today. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH! Suck it Philly!

    • Utley's Hair - Sep 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      Suck on this…

      • El Bravo - Sep 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        Mmmmm….portillos….ok you win this time.

    • biasedhomer - Sep 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM

      Most Phillies fans know the Howard contract is horrible.

      Unlike Braves fans who think all their top prospects will develop into superstars.

      • El Bravo - Sep 27, 2012 at 2:56 PM

  20. stlouis1baseball - Sep 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Does anyone remember when Bryce Harper got all that flack for supporting or otherwise being a Yankee’s fan? I seem to remember him wearing a hat or something. Regardless…it seems he got his balls busted pretty good for that.

    • nolanwiffle - Sep 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM

      I think Harper took flak because he was a Yankees fan… well as a Lakers fan and Cowboys fan.

      • stlouis1baseball - Sep 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM

        I hear you Nolan. But I vividly remember people on his ass about wearing a Yankees cap (and admitting he liked them)…all while on the Nationals payroll. I was really just making the distinction between how these two kids seem to get opposite reactions from virtually everyone.
        It’s certainly a stark contrast.

      • phillysoulfan - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

        stlouisfan….huge difference….Harper was wearing a Yankees cap and he said he was a Yankees fan. Trout, has not been seen wearing any Phillies logo, nor was he ever quoted as being a Phillies fan. His father said he was a Phillies fan.

  21. schuckme - Sep 27, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    ooooohh boyyy as a diehard phils phan myself i cannot wait til mikey boy becomes a FREE AGENT! the Phils will pony up for him and hes my favorite player in the game its been a real pleasure reading about him in the papers around here while we were still in high school (cant recall my high school playing against his but i wouldnt doubt it) COME HOME BUDDY!

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