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The Phillies and Diamondbacks can be eliminated tonight

Sep 28, 2012, 11:00 AM EDT

Cliff Lee AP

Just checking in with our friend Bob Timmermann’s MLB Death Watch:

Both the Philadelphia Phillies and the Arizona Diamondbacks can be mathematically eliminated from playoff contention if the St. Louis Cardinals beat the Washington Nationals at home on Friday night.

Alternatively, both teams can be eliminated if they lose their own games.

We don’t note all teams’ eliminations like this, but given the way our comments section skews around here, I figure this would be as good a place as any to set up Mourning Central for Phillies fans.  HBT is your safe harbor at the end of this stormy season, Phillies Pholks. Come, cry on each others shoulders here.  I shall bring you tissues and warm drinks to soothe your weary, heavy hearts.

  1. illcomm - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    ill repay the favor Craig when the braves lose their one n only playoff game this year.

    • biasedhomer - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

      To certain fan bases, making the playoffs as exciting as winning the WS.

      • Jeremy T - Sep 28, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        This is certainly true in Atlanta’s case, since in both cases nobody cares :)

    • El Bravo - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      you suck

  2. ame123 - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Cant wait for the Braves fans to join us in mourning after game 163.

    • El Bravo - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM

      you also suck

  3. drmonkeyarmy - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    You spelled folks with a “ph”. I knew you had a warm spot in your heart for us.

    • Francisco (FC) - Sep 28, 2012 at 12:57 PM

      Aww he wuvs us.

  4. rewbschaft - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Thanks but I am pretty sure Phillies fans knew the season was cooked when Houston took 3 of 4 two weeks ago.

    • deepstblu - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM

      That series was the baseball version of what NFL guys call a “trap game.” Phillies’ recent late-season visits to Houston: lost 2 of 3 in 9/2011, lost 4 of 4 in late 8/2010, lost 4 of 4 in 9/2009. None of them really hurt until now.

      • rewbschaft - Sep 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

        Agreed. For some reason the Phillies always seem to play down to the ‘Stros and this time was the nail in the coffin. A “trap series” is certainly appropriate, at least next year there shouldn’t have to be a concern with the ‘Stros packing up and moving to the AL West.

  5. willclarkgameface - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:08 AM


    I’m very tired of hearing about the Phillies and they would have been a prime example, had they made it, for the one game play-in being a lame idea. They would have not only lost, they would have lost big. Real big AND with Cliff Lee starting.

    Ruben Amaro Jr. is in nice company with Mike Rizzo on the list of GM SMUGGERY, both tied for 1st.

    And as far as the D-Backs go. It’s a shame they didn’t make the NL West more competitive this season. They showed a great deal of promise last year and hopefully they’ll be back in 2013. I like their manager and coaching staff. Top notch all around.

    • Jeremy T - Sep 28, 2012 at 3:38 PM

      How often has Lee lost big this year? He’s lost plenty of games, but from what I’ve heard they’ve been mostly of the 2-1, 3-2 variety.

  6. stex52 - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    This isn’t nearly as much fun as the post-mortems of all our pre-season predictions will be (I’m talking to you, Craig!!).

  7. umrguy42 - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    But as a Cards fan, I hate that the final two series are the Nats and the Reds – both of whom are jockeying for home field advantage, the Nats also trying to lock up the division, and the Reds who’d love nothing better than to knock the Cards out completely…

  8. scotttheskeptic - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    This Phillies season ticket holder thought they were mathematically eliminated by July 4th. In all seriousness, Amaro needs a better off-season than last. And I do not mean throwing big money at Cody Ross to make a Thanksgiving splash!

  9. temporarilyexiled - Sep 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Contraction vote?


    Never mind.

    • kiwicricket - Sep 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

      Herpes maybe, but nothing to serious. Oh. Wait…

  10. hisgirlgotburrelled - Sep 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    No need for tissues!!!! WE will win out. This will turn to Celebration Central. You’re just a hater! You watch. 6-0 and the Cardinals will lose out and, man, you’ll really be eating your hat!!!! And then WE are going to beat your Braves!!!

    (I added several exclamation points to emphasize sarcasm.)

    But, yeah, expectations fizzled after the pre-all-star break 37-50 start. Kind of crazy they are still not mathematically eliminated.

  11. randygnyc - Sep 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    The Phillies, the national league version of the Red sox. Both fan bases deserve exactly what their beloved organizations put them through this year. One can only hope they both continue down this path of wretchedness and dysfunction.

    • kevinleaptrot - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM


    • drmonkeyarmy - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

      I’m not seeing dysfunction with the Phillies.

    • kevinbnyc - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

      Come on…their manager at least seems competent, and their front office isn’t actively trying to run him out of town. Give them a sliver of credit.

      Seriously can’t believe I’m kind of defending the Phillies.

      • stex52 - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:33 PM

        A lot of “dysfunction” was simply injuries and older hitters not hitting like they used to. How is that a bad mark on the organization? They seem to me to be a good organization that just made some mistakes.

  12. dkphilly1122 - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    This all coming from a braves jock rider…..what a dick Craig is. Keep hatin. 5 straight division titles before this fluke year. Eat it.

    • kevinleaptrot - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:29 PM

      So next year it will be a fluke two years?

    • El Bravo - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

      You suck ballz

      • kiwicricket - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM

        No he doesn’t. He’s just an idiot.

      • kevinleaptrot - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:32 PM

        Judging from your posts here, it appears that your vocabulary totals 4 words, which pretty much makes you the president of the Philadelphia Mensa Society. Is that really the best you can do, you knuckle dragging, mouth breathing sack of puss whose lips moves on the rare occassion that he tries to read? Some variation of “you suck?” With that level of eloquence and sophistication, you should go into politics! Especially in that land fill called Philadelphia. With people like you in the population it is no wonder that everyone that graduates from one of the many colleges and universities in that city immediately make a mad rush for anywhere else. People like you deserve to have perpetually losing teams, so it appears that you are right where you need to be-Loserville.

  13. phillyphannn83 - Sep 28, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    14 straight div championships and only 1 ws title out of it…I can’t seem to find any Kleenex Craig. I think your fellow Braves fans used them all up. I can hear the choking already.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM

      Last I checked, 14 division titles and one WS is better than five division titles and one WS win. But maybe your Four Aces will win a bunch more. I dunno. Let me know how that goes.

      • xmatt0926x - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

        Oh yeah?????? That’s all I have…..

      • kevinleaptrot - Sep 28, 2012 at 2:39 PM

        Craig, please don’t confuse the Philly fans with math, or anything else logical. They don’t get it.

      • Phillies Homer - Sep 28, 2012 at 4:18 PM

        Well if you wanna look at it this way:

        Phillies won a World Series 20% of the time during their Division Title runs

        Braves won a World Series only 7.14% of the time during their Division Title runs.

        Phillies are more efficient!

  14. temporarilyexiled - Sep 28, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Finally, the laxative is kicking in.

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