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Report: Red Sox plan to fire Bobby Valentine immediately after season

Oct 3, 2012, 4:44 PM EDT

Bobby Valentine

UPDATE: Looks like today’s headline-creating comments might be Valentine’s last as a Red Sox employee. Jon Heyman of reports that “upper management intends to remove Valentine as manager soon after the season ends.”


Bobby Valentine appeared on local radio in Boston this afternoon, which means Bobby Valentine said something that made headlines this afternoon. That’s just how it works at this point.

This time what happened is that WEEI host Glenn Ordway asked Valentine if his coaching staff has been loyal to him this season and the manager replied simply: “No.”

Ordway then asked if the coaching staff has tried to undermine him, to which Valentine said: “Yes.”

And then he went on to say:

I had to work through it all. Just another thing that’s part and parcel with the job. Work though it and try to make it better. That’s my job to make it all better, make it all functional.

“That’s my job to make it all better, make it all functional” coming from Bobby Valentine is maybe the funniest thing anyone has ever said.

Valentine later revealed that he’d like to make “some” changes to the coaching staff. If the Red Sox don’t fire him, of course.

  1. timmons94 - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Hate this sob. To go from a class act like Francona to bobby v. Is like dating a super model. She dumping u. And now your dating Roseanne Barr

    • bigleagues - Oct 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

      Say what you want . . . Valentine was treated like a second-class citizen from the time he took the job. 2nd class by the players; 2nd class by the ownership; 2nd class by the media and 2nd class by a short-attention span fanbase.

      It’s been embarrassing to be a Red Sox fan over the last 13 months, although that’s not something that’s unfamiliar to many of us.

      But the shameful way in which they hired Valentine and immediately hung him out to dry is a very dark spot on this ownership group.

      Ben Cherington’s challenge is now every bit as big as the one that Epstein faced in 2003.

      • tfbuckfutter - Oct 3, 2012 at 10:11 PM

        As big as the one Epstein faced in 2003?

        Epstein turned a 93 win team into a 95 win team.

        I’d say Cherington has a bit of a bigger climb ahead of him.

        And maybe he wouldn’t have been treated that way if he didn’t try to show up Kevin Youkilis, one of the most popular players in the clubhouse, almost immediately.

      • sabatimus - Oct 4, 2012 at 11:24 AM

        And Valentine willingly signed on for most of this. He knew that he wouldn’t be able to choose most of his own coaches. He knew he was arriving into a pretty bad situation and somehow had to follow a manager who won 2 titles with a team that previously hadn’t won in 86 years. And then Valentine throws gasoline on the fire with his Youkilis comments, his “does it even really matter” comments, etc.

        Bottom line, this is NOT how a manager should act, unless he wants his team to lose.

      • bigleagues - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:03 AM


        You way oversimplified the reality of the situation that Epstein faced.

        Epstein had just watched the Yankees flush yet another would-be title run down the toilet in October 2003. That 93-win season may as well been a 69-Win season. The ownership group had just handed the then 28-yr-old the task of ending the then 85-year title drought, something that ownership had guaranteed the fans that they would do. Epstein had team chemistry issues to deal with and had a just hired a manager that NO ONE was excited about at the time.

        In the 2003 off-season Epstein had find to renovate 2/5th’s of the rotation, find a Closer, fill out the bullpen, replace the starting 2B, and significantly improve positional and organizational depth.

        That having been said, Cherington certainly faces the possibility of this off-season being more daunting, but with the 3-headed albatross sent away for good, the hardest part is already over. There are plenty of parts to be had and with a fresh manager and coaching staff, BC’s job while sure to be hectic, doesn’t seem so daunting anymore.

        The Red Sox have now gone 3 years without making the playoffs, and in the post-2004 era, that may as well be 86 years. If things go even 75% according to plan for Cherington this off-season I have little doubt that they will be a 90+ Win team again in 2013.

        Lester had a bad year – I’m nowhere near being of the mind that he has hit a career wall. Buchholz came off a debilitating injury. Beckett is mercifully gone. Lackey will return (presumably healthy for the 1st time in his Red Sox career). So like Epstein, Cherington needs to make decisions on 2/5’s of the rotation. Unlike Epstein, BC will have some choices in house: Morales, Doubront, De la Rosa, Barnes. If someone like Dickey becomes available, then all the better, because that is someone I would happily see them use some of their payroll leverage on. They could also take a run at E-Jax, Kuroda or Anibal.

        Where I’ll concede to your point a little more is how Cherington deals with LF, SS, 1B and possibly RF. The 2003 Sox were set at all three of the positions.

        There are some very appealing potential upgrades for the Red Sox at 1B in Adam LaRoche and Mike Napoli. Napoli (RH) could make a lot of sense, especially as a platoon with someone like Sands (LH) at 1B and Salty at C.
        Then again there is the chance that Ike Davis could be had. And I still wouldn’t rule the chance that Middlebrooks could end up at 1B

        Which leads me to SS/3B. There is a chance that Bogaerts is already being viewed as Opening Day 3B or SS. We know that no one sane would be viewing Iglesias at either spot. There is no doubt that Stephen Drew will end up a FA. I just don’t see Oakland picking up his $10 option. Should anyone have any doubt whatsoever that the Red Sox will have significant interest in Drew? NO. And he could literally be the linchpin to how that IF is constructed.

        Thus, I could see the Red Sox 2013 Starting Infield in one of these scenarios:

        1B) Middlebrooks, 2B) Pedroia, SS) Drew, 3B) Bogaerts
        1B) LaRoche, 2B) Pedroia, SS) Drew, 3B) Middlebrooks
        1B) Napoli/Sands, 2B) Pedroia, SS) Drew, 3B) Middlebrooks

        I could also see a trade w/ the Padres that lands Headley (a FA next year) for 3B, again w/ Middlebrooks going to 1B.

        I can see the Red Sox being very interested in Delmon Young (pending outcome of court case) or BJ Upton. They are likely to bring back Ross, but could also have interest in trading for Soriano. They could also end up dealing Ellsbury (perhaps to the Mets?) and look to Michael Bourn.

        Because of the payroll flexibility, the Red Sox actually have an amazing array of options to pursue. And because of that this could be a very interesting and exciting team again in very short order.

      • bigleagues - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:09 AM

        *On Headley, I meant to say he is arbitration eligible for 2013 season, and considering the season he just had, that may represent a significant enough jump in salary that the Padres may seek out what they could get in return for him, especially because he won’t be a FA until the conclusion of the 2015 season.

  2. cranespy - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Who’s next up? Joe Torre?

  3. deathmonkey41 - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    As a Yankees fan, I’m sure going to miss him. Live long and prosper, Bobby. You’ve done well.

  4. papichulo55 - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Never quite understood how being handed a seven figure check and told to not bother coming to work is a bad thing! Being ‘Fired’ in my world means new worries about mortgage, car payment, utlities, health insurance…

  5. rcali - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    So the GM and anyone else involved in this terrible hire is gone too, right?

    • teaspoon1731 - Oct 3, 2012 at 10:49 PM

      You do realize that the GM didn’t want to hire Valentine, right?

    • sabatimus - Oct 4, 2012 at 11:25 AM

      Unfortunately, they extended Lucchino. That move almost made me vomit. I’d like to extend my middle finger at him.

  6. mypointofview69 - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    The Curse of Ramirez continues….

  7. sanzarq - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Bobby’s body language, facial expressions & general demeanor seem so archaic & out of touch with today’s game (and players) that he comes across as some sort of supercilious anachronism. The modern game has apparently passed him by. Thank God those Japanese players he managed had a translator, who probably eliminated his derisive tones when translating & thus imparting the manager’s “wisdom”.

    He’s obviously done as a manager. No other team should (or perhaps would) hire him now, after this season’s methodical meltdown (not that he didn’t come in to an untenable situation in Boston). He’s not much of an analyst, either, so I hope MLB or ESPN is not stupid enough to hire him in that role again.

    He should just crawl off somewhere & disappear forever. Lots of fans would appreciate that.

    • Glenn - Oct 3, 2012 at 7:57 PM

      You are 100% correct and I got sick of him shooting himself in the foot, telling white lies that had no advantage to himself, etc.

      That said, I have to defend him a bit. He had to jump into a tough situation, he didn’t get to pick his coaches, he had a ridiculous number of injuries to deal with (the Sox had the highest percentage of their payroll on the DL by far), they were unlucky in general, and he was not supported by ownership when trying to instill some of his discipline at the beginning of the season. When he is scapegoated out of town, The BoSox will still be a lousy and dysfunctional team.

      • hockeyflow33 - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:30 AM

        He had no idea how to run a bullpen, or a pitching staff.

    • ballsonbase - Oct 4, 2012 at 4:36 AM

      I think its obvious that Bobby Valentine is more suited to manage the Rockettes than the Red Sox. Doesn’t anybody else get it?

  8. thepancakebandit - Oct 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    Certainly not surprised in the least, but still, this brought a smile and a sigh of relief!

    • thebadguyswon - Oct 3, 2012 at 7:32 PM

      Your team still sucks. You’ll need another scapegoat in 2013.

  9. thebadguyswon - Oct 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Good for Bobby to get out of that circus. The Red Sox are a piece of shite organization anyway, led by Lucchino the Puppetmaster.

    F them….I hope they lose 90 again next year!

    • hockeyflow33 - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM

      Good point, it’s not as if they’ve won 2 World Series and have one of the best records over the last decade

  10. jcioffi1485 - Oct 3, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    Not to worry Bobby….. The Marlins are a perfect storm for u to follow Ozzie

  11. vallewho - Oct 3, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    Can’t wait till next year when he’s criticizing the RS on ESPN….should be some great commentary.

    • sabatimus - Oct 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

      My tv remote has a mute button on it.

  12. renaldorae - Oct 3, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    Who are the red sox going to bring in, and who would want to come? After the way Francona was let go and how Valentine was treated as a manager what would give you confidence in the red sox front office. The red sox have money but there roster is depleted and in need of pitching. lacky has been a bust, lester had an off year. I say the red sox need a manager that can handle the pitching staff, valentine was awful in this department.

  13. hatersweargreen - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    another guy who is a very smart sports mind, but also a complete jerk, loses his job.

    it’s ok.

    he’ll be on the jets’ coaching staff within a week.

  14. honkerdawg - Oct 4, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Lets call a shot a shot, the players tanked ALL YEAR long. Not saying Valentine doesn’t deserve some blame but let’s share it and its the PLAYERS who go out on the field. They ought to look at the Rays who played hard and won their last game. Red Sox players were gutless all year long

  15. dman6015 - Oct 4, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    I’m shocked! Shocked, I say! Fire Bobby Valentine??? OMG – management must have lost some marbles over the season. I was so relieved when they fired that bum Francona. What did he ever do for the Red Sox??? Looks like the Sox have a losing record next year for the first time in decades without Bobby V. It’s a sad day in Beantown. Bazinga! Ahhhaaahahaahahaaaa.

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