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Report: Red Sox plan to fire Bobby Valentine immediately after season

Oct 3, 2012, 4:44 PM EDT

Bobby Valentine

UPDATE: Looks like today’s headline-creating comments might be Valentine’s last as a Red Sox employee. Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports that “upper management intends to remove Valentine as manager soon after the season ends.”

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Bobby Valentine appeared on local radio in Boston this afternoon, which means Bobby Valentine said something that made headlines this afternoon. That’s just how it works at this point.

This time what happened is that WEEI host Glenn Ordway asked Valentine if his coaching staff has been loyal to him this season and the manager replied simply: “No.”

Ordway then asked if the coaching staff has tried to undermine him, to which Valentine said: “Yes.”

And then he went on to say:

I had to work through it all. Just another thing that’s part and parcel with the job. Work though it and try to make it better. That’s my job to make it all better, make it all functional.

“That’s my job to make it all better, make it all functional” coming from Bobby Valentine is maybe the funniest thing anyone has ever said.

Valentine later revealed that he’d like to make “some” changes to the coaching staff. If the Red Sox don’t fire him, of course.

  1. indaburg - Oct 3, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Please someone, anyone, do the merciful thing and put him out of his misery. I can’t stand watching him suffer like this any longer.

    • indaburg - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:07 PM

      Update: Praise Jobu. He is merciful.

      • historiophiliac - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

        HBT might want to have a post ready to go at 12:01.

      • cur68 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM

        Jobu moves in mysterious ways, it is true. About effin time, if its true.

      • pinkfloydprism - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:57 PM

        Bobby must have said, “I say F you Jobu… I do it myself!”

      • dcfan4life - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM

        Jobu, Buddha, Buddha, Jobu. Now i dont want any trouble out of you two…

        Replace Jobu with Bobby and Buddha with Dustin and you get the same great quote…lol

    • pinkfloydprism - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:56 PM

      That’s a wrap!

      • bigharold - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

        NOW THAT’S FUNNY!!

  2. lew24 - Oct 3, 2012 at 4:49 PM

    Who wrote this dramedy?

  3. historiophiliac - Oct 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    I hope the players mutiny tonight and run their own game. If Pedroia took the clipboard away from Bobby V, I’d die laughing.

    • bozosforall - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:02 AM

      Eff Pedroia, that fugly bald headed leprechaun. Way overrated munchkin

      • pisano - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:28 AM

        bozo…. finally someone hates that little runt as much as I do, I can’t stand the sight of him.

      • bozosforall - Oct 4, 2012 at 11:32 PM

        No, you still own that title…I just dislike the idiot Boston fan base.

  4. anotheryx - Oct 3, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    Well, he saw what happened to Tito last year, and went on offensive instead.

  5. dondada10 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    I was a Bobby V defender after he left the Mets (hell, he’s still my avatar on the Mets board I frequent), but I feel that he disgraced himself in so many ways this year.

  6. nygiantstones - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    This could be all part of the plan to sell the team. Offload contracts, make sure management is easily replaceable, etc.

  7. southpaw2k - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    You know, if you took all the events surrounding Bobby Valentine this season, wrote them into a screenplay, and tried to sell the script as a fictional film to a studio, I doubt they’d buy that all that stuff could happen to a single manager of a baseball team in one season.

    Truth really is stranger than fiction.

  8. tigers182 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Had to. Valentine’s WAR was too low.

    • Alex K - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:11 PM

      You’re embarrassing yourself. WAR isn’t why Mike Trout should win MVP. He’s been a better baseball player than Miguel Cabrera this season. That is why he should win MVP.

      • historiophiliac - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:28 PM

        Lighten up. It’s just a little riff on all the WAR arguments this year. You are too easily baited.

      • anvil35 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:39 PM

        I couldnt disagree with a statement anymore than yours, AlexK. Miguel has, hands down, been the better player in the American League this year. If he doesnt win the MVP there is something wrong with how the winner gets chosen. He is going to win the Triple Crown, and he switched positions from first to thrid That is no simple task.

      • Jeremy T - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

        He’s been a better hitter. Whether he’s been enough better to be a better overall player is far from a simple question. But seriously, we’re gonna have this argument on another post?

      • Alex K - Oct 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM

        anvil- Read that again. I was saying Cabrera SHOULD NOT win the MVP. Mike Trout should win the MVP. Trout has been a lot better than Cabrera this year, hands down.

        Jeremy- Trout has been the better baseball player. I wasn’t just talking about the hitting.

      • Alex K - Oct 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM

        Looks like I need to read what you said, again…You’re 100% wrong. The offense has been similar and Trout is a lot better at baserunning and defense.

  9. greymares - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    The players don’t want him, the coaches don’t want him, the fans don’t want him. he should be gone 30secs. after the game

  10. cowboysoldiertx - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Ajoke manager, and a joke season turned a solid (if doche baggy) franchise into a laughing stock. So long Bobby V (The V stands for VERY cause hes very much an idjit).

  11. randygnyc - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    In retrospect, Bobby put himself in a no-win situation. After last years disappointing finish and the end of Francona’s tenure, this year was bound to be a continuation of drama. There wasn’t really a way to right the ship without cleaning house. Ownership started with Youklis and continued with the Big Heist of the Dodgers. Valentine is just more collateral damage. It’s no secret that I dislike everything Boston, but Bobby has managed to gain my sympathy.

  12. illadelphiasphinest - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    What Bobby V is gonna get fired? Im shocked!!!!!! Lol jk. Guy is a total tool. Idk how even got the job in the first place. Watching him on Basaball Tonight was like pulling teeth. He’s the leader of all the idiots!

  13. vallewho - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Last night for the show…

  14. lew24 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    I’m shocked….that they waited this long!

  15. paperlions - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    What in the world do you have to do as a manager that “loyalty” becomes a question? This is baseball, not war or politics. In a normal clubhouse, what situations would arise that might every bring the “loyalty” of your coaches into question…or even make such a concept relevant? When was the last time that loyalty within a coaching staff was an issue?

    He must be a giant ass if his coaches didn’t want to work for or with him anymore and were bitching about him to the FO.

    • ptfu - Oct 3, 2012 at 8:44 PM

      For one thing, they weren’t “his” coaches, as others have pointed out. RS management did not allow Bobby V to hire his own coaches, as nearly all managers get to do.

      So naturally the holdover coaches realize how short of a leash Bobby V is on, and that upper management is protecting them. No wonder they’re loyal to upper management over Bobby V.

      This particular fiasco was sparked by RS upper management the day they didn’t give him full authority to do his job. Yeah, he probably was a giant asshat, but that merely fanned the flames.

  16. pisano - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    I’ll bet no one saw this coming, what a shock, the dead could have called this one. C-ya Bobby, it’s not like you didn’t earn this.

  17. drewsylvania - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    This team is such a mess that maybe they should sell. What kind of diseased org hires a manager, then watches as he is unbelievably terrible, instead of firing the guy?

    • bozosforall - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:06 AM

      A diseased org that is a perfect fit for their diseased fan base. Biggest bunch of losers in all of sports fandom.

  18. edelmanfanclub - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    Yes we all know he is done, but what was the point of keeping him this long, If he was going to be fired at the end of the year? The team obviously isn’t on the same page with him. They should have axed him earlier this month and let Bogar take over see if he had any shot at communicating with these guys. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

    • bigharold - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM

      The moment that they traded Beckett, Crawford and Gonzalez the FO officially gave up in the season. No point in bringing anybody else in, .. they were going to have to pay Valentine anyway. Why torture some poor slob with the these “players” who likely wasn’t getting the managers job anyway.

  19. roverboy1949 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Does he get to keep the jacket? He really was a bad choice for the Sox, but he sure didn’t help his own cause with his style of managing. He was out of his element from day #1. He didn’t ever sync with the players. I’m not so sure the players ever really gave him much of a chance, though. I don’t think anyone coming in to that situation had much hope of success. I think the “team” let everyone(fans, coaches, and themselves) down from the first day he arrived. When he goes, who will they blame next – the organist or the announcer? Time for a reality check. The new season starts Wednesday night.

  20. bigharold - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    I’m neither a RS or Valentine fan. And, I’d say that Valentine certainly shot himself in the foot a few times along the way but that doesn’t change the fact that he was in a completely untenable position. This could have only ended badly considering the way it started out.

    He clearly wasn’t the GMs choice. He wasn’t allowed to hire his own staff. He wasn’t allowed the younger players that he wanted, .. ones that would likely be less resistant to his managing style. Players saw that, .. Beckett, Pedroia and Youlilus knew Valentine didn’t have the FO’s backing. That right there made the players aware that Valentine was on shaky ground to start with. Add to that a veteran team that didn’t think it needed a disciplinarian manager in the first place, .. include a SP staff that woefully under performed the entire season, .. a pen that pretty much stunk too. Heap on a bunch of injuries and finish it off by trading Beckett, Crawford and Gonzalez, .. thereby signifying that the RS FO is giving up on the season and voila… one historically crappy season. It certainly wasn’t all Valentine’s fault, .. it wasn’t even mostly his fault.

    I hope the RS FO thinks it can fix everything by firing Valentine., .. because they can’t. The pitching on this team has been overrated for years, .. it just showed by how much the last couple of seasons. The good news is that the RS have a lot of payroll flexibility to get more players. The bad news is that they have a lot of needs and have shown that they aren’t that good at picking the right players. Which as a Yankee fan is good because the Rays and O’s are tough, .. it’d be a real dog fight next year if the RS showed any improvement.

    • mazblast - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:04 PM

      Bobby Valentine may be the manager I’ve loathed the most in all the years I’ve been watching MLB (that’s 50 years). That said, I’ve actually felt sorry for him the last few months.

      In his eagerness to get back in the dugout, Bobby took possibly the worst job he could have found. Combine an owner with no scruples, a CEO with no honor, a GM who isn’t up to the drill, a front office filled with major league Machiavellians, media with no goals except to stir the pot, coaches with at best divided loyalties, and players accustomed to running the asylum, and the manager doesn’t stand a chance.

      Not that Bobby made it any better. His mouthy, abrasive style (predictably) rubbed everyone the wrong way and turned even the few who were for him into opponents.

      Still, leaving him twisting in the wind all this time (since at least the ASB, by which time it was clear the team was out of control) was uncalled for. Their archrivals, the hated YANKEES (face The Bronx and bow) would have had the class and the common courtesy to fire him in August, had he been managing them. As much as I side with the Red Sox in their eternal war with you-know-who, it’s clear the Red Sox are an amazingly dysfunctional team and organization that sometimes succeeds despite itself, but more often is a CF (and I’m not referring to the position Ellsbury plays).

      On to the next question–Who will be the next manager? I have a hard time believing any veteran manager of any note would want the job, considering the situation. If I’m a competent manager, I’d rather take my chances with a small market team, knowing the front office will work WITH me and the media won’t be against me, than with the Red Sox. So let’s assume the Red Sox hire someone with little or no MLB managerial experience, and what will we have? Someone who will get eaten alive by the team, front office, and media.

      • bozosforall - Oct 4, 2012 at 12:10 AM

        Couldn’t happen to a “more deserving” fan base, the biggest whiners in sports fan history.

  21. midjerseyfatcat - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I hope he gets thrown out of the game in the first inning for arguing over balls and strikes. The fans can then cheer for the team to have a good game against the Yanks without him and look at it as a new beginning for them. Too many bad moves from a (?) baseball man.

    • mazblast - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:48 PM

      If he’d get thrown out and then do the Groucho glasses-and-mustache bit like he did one time with the Mets, it would be hilarious. Then take a curtain call. What the heck, what’s the worst that can happen? He gets fired? So what, he’s getting fired regardless! Go out BIG!

  22. tfbuckfutter - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    Thanks for being the impetus behind getting rid of a couple of REALLY terrible contracts.

    Other than that, please go somewhere private and fornicate yourself.

  23. openseason51 - Oct 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    The GM is full of crap. Boston won’t ever return with that putz in there. Valentine is going to get screwed but he took the job. That whole coaching staff that Valentine dealt with should be fired. They encouraged deceit and dishonor within the club house. Plus the coaches are to blame for the misconduct for the past several years. Terry should have never been let go. Owners and GM and coaches are to blame not Valentine. The Curse of the Bambino has returned!!! The Boston players of the past have deserted the team once again. They were blessed with the World Series wins but now their crimes within the organization have brought the curse back. No more for Boston.

  24. philliesblow - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Doing it so quick to hire back Francona before the Indians hire him? If only the Red Sox would have hired Gene Lamont last year (speaking as a Tigers fan who can’t stand him coaching 3B).

  25. bougin89 - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    I remember two years ago Bobby Valentine was interviewing to be the Brewers manager. I didn’t know a single person in Wisconsin that wanted him to win the Brewers job. Just watching him on TV you can tell he is just a tool/douche.

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