Comments on: Miguel Cabrera wins first Triple Crown since 1967

By: dino1730

dino1730 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:29:18 +0000

Congrats to Miguel Carbrea, by far the best hitter in and run producer in baseball. Ted Williams won the triple crown twice, and was not the MVP one of those years because Dimaggio’s team won the pennant. This would be a travesty if he did not win the MVP. Hats off to Mike Trout on a tremendous season and certainly has at least 1 MVP in his future, but Cabrera is the best hitter in the game, and hitting is the certainly the hardest aspect of baseball.

By: thraiderskin

thraiderskin — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:24:11 +0000

I want to know, what are MLB fans going to do if they don’t make Cabrera the MVP? To me, that would be a travesty to the game, I’m not sure I could ever again take the award very seriously…

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:21:31 +0000

ha ha I thought the bait was to defend Miggy — couldn’t resist standing up for Hunter though.

By: rmfields

rmfields — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:56:37 +0000

dondada10, RBI and BA are highly subjective? Well then you probably think HRs are subjective, too, since every park has different dimensions, and home runs in some parks would not be home runs in others, and vice versa.

By: geoknows

geoknows — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:54:17 +0000

I was watching the game; it was the middle of an inning and it was clear that he very much did NOT want to come out. It was Leyland’s call, not his.

By: themerlo

themerlo — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:50:09 +0000

and Trout didn’t make a huge defensive move from 1st to 3rd and still put up the numbers…and quality defense.

By: themerlo

themerlo — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:41:55 +0000

Not to mention Trout didn’t switch from 1st to 3rd which is a huge move. Its enough to worry about the change is defense, but to put up those type of numebrs on top of it is amazing.

Trout is a mazing, no question, but without Miggy the Tigers wouldn’t have competed for a playoff spot.

By: themerlo

themerlo — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:37:30 +0000

Ted Williams also didn’t play in 160 games – which Miggy did. Triple Crows back then were earned during a shorter season in case you don’t know your baseball history.

besides, No reason for him to play a complete game and risk injury before a playoff game. Keep in mind he took a baseball off his eye this year and hurt his ankle. What left does he need to prove?

By: stlouis1baseball

stlouis1baseball — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:24:54 +0000

Outstanding! Something we may never see happen again.
Great season Miguel Cabrera!

By: wingsrule12

wingsrule12 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:31:10 +0000

Trout had a better year? Are you and Jason Stark drinking the same kool aid? You take Trout off the Angels they finish 3rd at best (which is where they finished). Take Miggy away from Detriot they finish 4th in that division. That to me is MVP

By: massivedick

massivedick — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 12:30:52 +0000

As a HUGE Tiger and Miggy fan you gotta give some love to the KC players and fans for giving him a standing O when he was pulled. Classy.

By: nbjays

nbjays — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:22:43 +0000

You might be surprised. I wonder if that’s what people said in 1966 when Frank Robinson won it…

By: xjokerz

xjokerz — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:42:44 +0000

MVP

By: uyf1950

uyf1950 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:41:10 +0000

Congratulation to Miguel Cabrera on his accomplishment of winning the AL Triple Crown.

I do have one bone to pick with the headline on the piece and I’ll admit before hand it’s just my personal gripe. While Yaz was awarded the Triple Crown in 1967 I do NOT believe he won it. My understanding is a player has to lead the league in BA, RBI’s and HR’s. Yaz did NOT lead the American League in home runs he tied Harmon Killebrew with 44. In my book tying is NOT leading. Like I said that’s just my personal grip with Yaz’s 1967 AL Triple Crown award.

Again congratulation to Cabrera on truly winning the AL Triple Crown.

By: dcdebacle

dcdebacle — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:37:45 +0000

is nobody else even a little ticked off that Cabrera didnt finish the game? Ted Williams sure wouldnt like it. Awesome season for miggy, truly historic, but him coming out after going 0-2 really puts a damper on it for me.

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 08:05:52 +0000

Way to go. MVP

By: cogitobaseballergosum

cogitobaseballergosum — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:45:24 +0000

The problem with that argument is that you can pick slightly different, but just as valid, numbers for each category and find that it’s not so unprecedented:

Rickey Henderson had 24/28 HRs, 80/87 stolen bases, and 146/130 runs scored in 1985/86, and several other seasons where he was close to those numbers. Nearly as much power, far more speed, and more runs scored.

Eric Davis had 37/50/120 in 1987, so he had 7 more HR’s, 1 more SB and 9 fewer runs scored, does that him less of a speed/power/run scoring threat?

There are other examples as well. I think it’s okay to point out that nobody’s had Trout’s exact combination of stat plateaus, but to call it an example of “unprecedented power, speed, and scoring” is stretching the point a bit.

By: crackersnap

crackersnap — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 05:35:19 +0000

I’d be happier with a tie vote. Co-MVP. Old School meets The Future.

By: crackersnap

crackersnap — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 05:34:19 +0000

7th best record in the league while feasting within the worst division in baseball, versus 6th best record in the league while competing in the toughest division in baseball.

Nuff said.

By: theawesomersfranchise

theawesomersfranchise — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 05:09:46 +0000

Puljol doesn’t matter, cause you know, protection in the lineup is what made the difference and got him that Triple Crown.

Myth Confirmed

By: beaverdam21

beaverdam21 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 05:04:04 +0000

I was 10 in ’67 and vividly remember thinking well that’s nice; probably be 3 or 4 yrs before anybody does it again. The man above is right – the passage of time is the only way to truly appreciate the significance. As a mild Tigers fan, also glad they have in some fashion overcome the loss of Granderson, which I thought might have knocked them down several rungs. BRAVO!

By: theawesomersfranchise

theawesomersfranchise — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 05:01:25 +0000

Ya me too

By: craggt

craggt — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:55:51 +0000

Instead of arguing about whether Trout or Miggy was better this season instead I’ll fantasize about how good they would be if they played together.

By: cur68

cur68 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:55:24 +0000

Not bad. Try this again during the day. Maybe on ATH and the sure-to-be subsequent post. The REAL lunatics come out to play then. Throw in an MVP opinion (either way, it won’t matter) and then grab the corn and hold on for the ride. I you have a Cy Young opinion (won’t matter who, so have fun) you might set the “Comment String Of The Season” record (that all-time honour is still held by ‘Cepts, though, but you might threaten it if you get in first on ATH). If you can manage all that, I promise to get on there and call you enough names and question your parentage etc to give the whole thing a huge boost (worth about 5 or six follow on comments at least). Good Luck.

By: craggt

craggt — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:51:01 +0000

sabatimus you do realize that Miggy leads the league in OPS as well right? OPS is also a deeply flawed statistic for the simple reason that it treats OBP and SLG equally.

By: skinsfanwill

skinsfanwill — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:35:10 +0000

Trouts team will be watching from home while Miggy is in the playoffs. Nuff said. and he has also had similar numbers for years. Model of consistency. Trout had a monster year. See if he can repeat that.

By: crackersnap

crackersnap — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:28:12 +0000

I’m a geezer, too. You know what else we have not seen since 1965? Any baseball player to hit 30 home runs (power), steal 45 bases (speed), and score 125 runs (cashing his own checks rather than checks written by others) in one season.

Come to think of it, this accomplishment goes back further than 1965. It is even more rare. It goes back even further than our own geezer grandfathers. In fact, it has never, ever, been done before. Not by anyone, including everybody in the HoF already.

Unprecedented power, speed, and scoring. Added to Best In Class defense. Yeah, that’s all pretty special, too.

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:25:53 +0000

And now we don’t have to hear about how Yaz was the last one to win it anymore. Can’t wait until Jeter passes Yaz in hits next year as well.

By: raysfan1

raysfan1 — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:04:00 +0000

Every one of them would be HoF members even without the feat. I’ve no doubt that Cabrera will one day join them.

By: missingdiz

missingdiz — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 03:58:50 +0000

Let me admit right now that I’m a geezer. The rest of you who aren’t geezers yet will be soon enough, so a little respect please. I understand why wins for a pitcher don’t matter much these days. I think they did when pitchers normally pitched the whole ball game, but five innings and out really does change things. But I don’t see how the significance of batting average has changed at all. Now that we’re, I hope, off steroids, home runs are just as significant as they ever were. The combination of the two is special—not Ichiro on the one hand, not Dunn or Reynolds on the other. RBIs are just as significant and problematic as they ever were. Other people have to get on base. OK, so Trout batting leadoff is at a disadvantage. But, on the other hand, although Fielder is formidable, look who’s following Trout in the order. Pitchers are not likely to nibble when pitching to Trout. This is the first Triple Crown winner in 45 years. It should mean something. Nobody has come up with some other combination of statistics that would consistently mean so much. Miguel Cabrera should be MVP.