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Sandy Alomar wants to be Indians manager, but “obviously anybody would want a Terry Francona”

Oct 3, 2012, 12:48 PM EDT

Sandy Alomar AP

It sure sounds like the Indians’ next manager will be either Terry Francona or Sandy Alomar, as Alomar is currently holding the interim job following Manny Acta’s firing and Francona is coming in for an interview Friday.

In terms of managerial experience they can’t get much different, because this is Alomar’s first gig and Francona has 1,029 wins and a pair of championships. And he also has Alomar’s respect, as the interim manager praised Francona when asked about the competition:

I don’t have the resume that Terry has. Obviously, that’s a slam dunk. Geez, I wish I had that. As a player, maybe I did. But as a coach? He has an unbelievable resume. Obviously, anybody would want a Terry Francona. I’m just going to go out there and do what I have to do and let the rest take care of itself.

Who wouldn’t want a guy like that? He has everything. He has championships. He’s a great guy. He’s a great communicator. He’s the perfect guy to have; I’m not going to hide it. I’m not going to say I’m already a slam dunk, because I’m not. Nobody owes me anything. That’s always been the approach in my life.

This is purely speculation, of course, but it sure seems like Francona is the Indians’ first choice and Alomar is the pre-approved fallback option in case negotiations stall over money or something else. In the meantime Francona may want to consider hiring Alomar as his agent, because praise doesn’t get a whole more more effusive than that.

  1. cur68 - Oct 3, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Well, Francona was an Expo, too. Alomar should have mentioned THAT as well. Yet another reason Tito is The Man.

  2. Kevin Gillman - Oct 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    In a perfect world, Francona is hired as Indians manager, with Sandy being a bench coach. Sandy will manage one day, whether it’s with the Indians or another team, and that team will be forunate to have him, but man, Indians also can’t pass up Francona as manager, that would instantly bring credibility among free agents, and Sandy would learn so much from Francona. But, this isn’t a perfect world, and it may not happen.

    • paperlions - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:19 PM

      Dollars bring credibility to FAs, not managers. The Indians still don’t have much talent or money….and their farm system isn’t exactly bursting at the seams either (actually one of the worst systems in all of baseball). Hiring Francona just means they’ll have a “respectable” manager while they loose a lot of games.

      • Kevin Gillman - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:34 PM

        Right now, they might be one of the worst systems, but you know as well as I do that changes yearly. Heading into next season, the Indians system will be rated much, much higher than they are now. Francisco Lindor is the prized prospect, and he might be ticketed to play for Akron next season. Jesus Aguilera’s stock will rise too. They have a surplus of pitching, more than what alot of people may think.

        I know alot of you don’t look into this, but the Indians did have a 12 win improvement from 2010 to 2011, and even as far as July 26th, they were within 3 1/2 games of first place, before the 11 game losing streak began, and crashed their hopes. Now whether that was due to luck, or whether that was due to in part, talent, who cares. The fact remains they were in the race until that happened. And as we ALL know, it takes a big winning streak and run to cement them into the postseason.

        Looking at the numbers, Justin Masterson was the most disappointing player on the Indians, because he just wasn’t consistent. Imagine your number one starter can’t even make it through 5 innings at times, that puts a toll on the bullpen, who might I add STILL was one of the best units, because when they had the lead after 6, the ballgame was over, even with the losing streaks.

        So there IS talent, it’s just a matter of putting everything together. Justin proved he can be that guy in 2011, but he took about 5 steps back. Now imagine if a more stable pitcher like a Gavin Floyd was our number 2 starter, and the experience of Terry Francona, I am going to say I like our chances a bit better than what we had now.

      • paperlions - Oct 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        It can change, but it doesn’t always….especially if the reason for the lack of talent is the process and dollars spent on the draft and international FAs. The point is that the Indians MUST have a top 10 system year in and year out to compete at all….because they are NOT going to be spending big in FA (and historically, when they have spent, they’ve done a horrible job picking who to spend on).

        This is not a team where a manager with Francona’s skill set is going to make any difference at all (indeed, there is no managerial skill set for this situation).

      • Kevin Gillman - Oct 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM

        Paperlions, Manny Acta managed this team last season that won 80 games. So if Terry Francona had taken that same team, he couldn’t have managed 5, maybe 6 more wins out of them? The middle of this team is loaded with talent. Carlos Santana finally finished the season with the numbers he is capable of doing. Jason Kipnis played his first full season, and has shown he can be productive, not to mention the guy can play 2nd base very well, considering he hasn’t played there much in his entire career. Asdrubal Cabrera was solid again, not the power numbers he had in 2011, but he didn’t need to be. And Michael Brantley was consistent all season long.

        Now, where the team failed is their two big starters in Justin Masterson and Ubaldo Jimenez. Both of them failed to be effective starters, and Justin deserves the same kind of blame as Ubaldo, because he was supposed to be the “ace”. I’ll agree with you though that Chris Antonelli did an awful job of getting them guys that step right in and produce. For them to gloat about Aaron Cunningham when we brought him in was just awful, especially when they allowed a productive guy like Josh Willingham march right into Minnesota. He would have been a steady force, hitting cleanup, and allowing the younger Carlos Santana get settled in the 5 or 6 slot.

        It’s not that someone like Francona would be the end all be all for this team, but I know this, he would never throw his players under the bus like Manny did, at times. He never backed his players when they were thrown out of the game, even when replays clearly showed they were in the right, and even Sandy will fight for his team. If that happens, then anything can happen. Look at what Baltimore has done with Buck Showalter, and what Oakland has done. You’re saying that Cleveland could never do that?

      • sportsfan18 - Jun 26, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        And things CAN change for the worse too…

        As with most things, it’s about creating a system and then working that system. Being consistent, not throwing it all away and staring over every few years.

        I’m NOT a Cardinals fan but they’ve been good a while and there are reasons for that…

        I’m NOT a Pats fan in the NFL, but they’ve been good a while and there are reasons for that…

  3. tigers182 - Oct 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    What’s Alomar’s WAR compared to Francona?

    • Alex K - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM

      Alomar – 10.6 fWAR
      Tito- -1.1 fWAR

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:07 PM

      11.6 vs -3.6

      Oh, oh, you managerial WAR… uhh.. just switch the values.

  4. mikeinthevine - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Sandy Alomar was a class act as a player and has remained so as a coach. I just don’t think it really matters who the Indians manager is as long as the Dolans own the team. They’re in way over their heads financially. Fancona may have a lot of credibility with free agents but the Dolans don’t have the deep pockets to pay them. The front office is a train wreck so I don’t wish this job on either of these guys.

    • Kevin Gillman - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM

      mike, while I may agree the Dolans are in way over their heads, I am going to say they are desperate. Every single move they made all the way back in 2009 was centered around 2012, and look at what happened. This is the one year where money may not mean much to them, we know they CAN afford it. Their family is filthy rich, it’s in their blood. The problem though is they are also lawyers, not businessmen. They pocket the money they make, and keep it in their pockets, they may not have a choice now. We will see, because if they do hire Terry, you would have to believe they are also going to spend money. Put up or shut up, as far as I am concerned with this organization.

  5. blantoncollier - Oct 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Becareful when calling the Dolan’s filthy rich. They are very wealthly, but the money comes from Cablevision which is controlled by Larry’s brother Charles. The Dolan’s were desperate to own a team, they tried to buy the Browns, but lost to Al Lerner. They tried to buy contolling interest in the Reds but lost out there too. Then the brothers went their own ways, Charles/James bought the Knicks and Madison Garden. While Larry over paid by something like $100 million to buy the Tribe.

    When you over pay in any business, then the revenue doesnt follow, you cant make it work. Thats where the Dolan’s are. Paul Dolan has already said they dont expect to ADD payroll for next year.

    The talent at the major league level is limited and flawed. There is little left in the minors.

    So why is this job a good job for anyone but the Sandy Alomar’s (first jobs) or Manny Acta’s or Jim Riggleman’s (re-hires)?

  6. mazblast - Oct 3, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    This is a job that may stay open for a while. I doubt that Francona will leave the Indians twisting in the wind for too long, but he would be best off if he waits just a bit to see what else is available. He’s the best or at least highest profile candidate for just about any managerial job.

  7. jsally430 - Oct 3, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    the pulled the Herschel walker trade of baseball ubaldo for two top pitching prospects even bill smith shook his head at that one

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