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	<title>Comments on: Anger in Atlanta after controversial infield-fly rule call</title>
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		<title>By: powercorrupts2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The black man in Atlanta in the &#039;50s - &#039;60s who was not well received was Hank Aaron. And it wasn&#039;t alcohol related. We don&#039;t have to visit the Hall of Fame to know what he did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The black man in Atlanta in the &#8217;50s &#8211; &#8217;60s who was not well received was Hank Aaron. And it wasn&#8217;t alcohol related. We don&#8217;t have to visit the Hall of Fame to know what he did.</p>
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		<title>By: roverboy1949</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roverboy1949]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why many people don&#039;t want to go to games anymore. There always seems to be someone throwing things at players or other fans. couple that with the violence in the parking areas, and it takes away from what should be a fun and memorable experience. Also, that call was poor, at best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why many people don&#8217;t want to go to games anymore. There always seems to be someone throwing things at players or other fans. couple that with the violence in the parking areas, and it takes away from what should be a fun and memorable experience. Also, that call was poor, at best.</p>
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		<title>By: sparky1002</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sparky1002]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair call if you read what the rules say. The &quot;infield fly rule&quot; was called AFTER the infielder Pete Kozma settled under the ball for a routine catch. The ball does not have to be caught after the umpire makes that call as the batter is automatically out when the call is made. People who claim the call was made late are ignorant of the above facts even though all replays vindicate those facts. The call can be made even in the outfield as long as it is made in a timely fashion AFTER the infielder settles under the ball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair call if you read what the rules say. The &#8220;infield fly rule&#8221; was called AFTER the infielder Pete Kozma settled under the ball for a routine catch. The ball does not have to be caught after the umpire makes that call as the batter is automatically out when the call is made. People who claim the call was made late are ignorant of the above facts even though all replays vindicate those facts. The call can be made even in the outfield as long as it is made in a timely fashion AFTER the infielder settles under the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: lembeck4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lembeck4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly when is someone from HBT going to call Braves fans out on the carpet for their absurd, bush league behavior Friday? It was a terrible call, without question, but hundreds of fans showering the field with beer bottles and garbage in response is completely pathetic, and embarrassing. I cant believe this putrid display has gone without comment from a hard core baseball blog. And spare me the &quot;a few bad apples&quot; defense....hundreds of dipshits acted like spoiled children in a mob mentality. Can&#039;t believe that disgusting behavior has gone without the appropriate rebuke. The Braves did nothing to stop it, and should play the home opener next year with an empty stadium because of it. Sickening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly when is someone from HBT going to call Braves fans out on the carpet for their absurd, bush league behavior Friday? It was a terrible call, without question, but hundreds of fans showering the field with beer bottles and garbage in response is completely pathetic, and embarrassing. I cant believe this putrid display has gone without comment from a hard core baseball blog. And spare me the &#8220;a few bad apples&#8221; defense&#8230;.hundreds of dipshits acted like spoiled children in a mob mentality. Can&#8217;t believe that disgusting behavior has gone without the appropriate rebuke. The Braves did nothing to stop it, and should play the home opener next year with an empty stadium because of it. Sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: fashawks8</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fashawks8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2012 05:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Philly fans are universally considered the worst in all of sports.  It&#039;s not even a contest.  I picked the most egregious example (but they put his name on a wall so it all evens out right?)...feel free to choose another.  There&#039;s a long list.  You guys have been pulling that shit since fat met drunk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philly fans are universally considered the worst in all of sports.  It&#8217;s not even a contest.  I picked the most egregious example (but they put his name on a wall so it all evens out right?)&#8230;feel free to choose another.  There&#8217;s a long list.  You guys have been pulling that shit since fat met drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fans threw plastic bottles and paper cups. Big whoopin&#039; deal. When umps get calls that badly wrong and MLB allows the play to stand, then I say the fans in PAID attendance have the right to throw whatever non-lethal non-injurious projectile they want to express their distaste.

If MLB wants to remedy fans throwing items onto the field, fix the real problem. 

Also, I&#039;m disgusted by the pontificating of the announcers from their ivory booth. It&#039;s just so fake and calculated - clearly every one of them are just recited MLB talking points when such events occur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fans threw plastic bottles and paper cups. Big whoopin&#8217; deal. When umps get calls that badly wrong and MLB allows the play to stand, then I say the fans in PAID attendance have the right to throw whatever non-lethal non-injurious projectile they want to express their distaste.</p>
<p>If MLB wants to remedy fans throwing items onto the field, fix the real problem. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m disgusted by the pontificating of the announcers from their ivory booth. It&#8217;s just so fake and calculated &#8211; clearly every one of them are just recited MLB talking points when such events occur.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 19:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nps6724

I strongly second your admonishment of highump.

Just on the assertion that that was somehow an Infield Fly Rule play is completely wrong:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.

When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare Infield Fly for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare Infield Fly, if Fair. ... 

&lt;i&gt;Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpires judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpires judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The umpires judgement was just wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nps6724</p>
<p>I strongly second your admonishment of highump.</p>
<p>Just on the assertion that that was somehow an Infield Fly Rule play is completely wrong:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.</p>
<p>When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare Infield Fly for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare Infield Fly, if Fair. &#8230; </p>
<p><i>Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpires judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpires judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.</i>
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<p>The umpires judgement was just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: dannythebisforbeast</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fn hilarious, come on hear to read about the blown call and all comments are talking about philly fans. were not even in the playoffs.

atlanta fans making excuses-what happened could happen anywhere. No $H!T, same as when something happens in philly. except when it does its completely overblown.

Been to games everywhere and seen ahole fans everywhere, usually the total aholes are just drunks not real fans. 

Dont be mad cuz your fanbase is weak and your chop is weak and zombie like and your one and done. it happens]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fn hilarious, come on hear to read about the blown call and all comments are talking about philly fans. were not even in the playoffs.</p>
<p>atlanta fans making excuses-what happened could happen anywhere. No $H!T, same as when something happens in philly. except when it does its completely overblown.</p>
<p>Been to games everywhere and seen ahole fans everywhere, usually the total aholes are just drunks not real fans. </p>
<p>Dont be mad cuz your fanbase is weak and your chop is weak and zombie like and your one and done. it happens</p>
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		<title>By: spellingcops</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spellingcops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a fan of either team, but wow.  You two Philly fans are really making a great case for being &quot;great fans&quot; when both of you laugh at how a future hall of famer went out in his last game.  I think it is known all across America that Philly fans are a bunch of classless losers (generally speaking of course), and one display of anger by Atlanta fans does not jerk that title from you guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a fan of either team, but wow.  You two Philly fans are really making a great case for being &#8220;great fans&#8221; when both of you laugh at how a future hall of famer went out in his last game.  I think it is known all across America that Philly fans are a bunch of classless losers (generally speaking of course), and one display of anger by Atlanta fans does not jerk that title from you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: rarson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rarson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, you guys got &quot;robbed&quot; by a bad call THAT WENT IN YOUR FAVOR. So not only are Braves fans classless, they&#039;re also dumber than a pile of bricks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you guys got &#8220;robbed&#8221; by a bad call THAT WENT IN YOUR FAVOR. So not only are Braves fans classless, they&#8217;re also dumber than a pile of bricks.</p>
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		<title>By: kaitgamer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaitgamer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL...

where is that jerk that always posts articles mocking philly fans???

The absolutely wonderful outcropping of all this is not only did his Braves get totally robbed, the fans there totally and completely shamed the city of Atlanta...there is nothing he can ever ever ever say to change it, and now every single time he posts some jerk article about the phillies, we phils fans can just say ...

well at least we didn&#039;t get screwed out of the wild card by the new rule, get screwed out of the game by a bad call, and look like a pathetic drunken mod in front of millions of viewers...

so go ahead and point to the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s as if they matter...forget santa clause, forget the disco sucks disaster...The Atlanta Braves are now the post child of bad fans..

bye chipper, hope you enjoyed your last game (btw, he was out on that last play)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;</p>
<p>where is that jerk that always posts articles mocking philly fans???</p>
<p>The absolutely wonderful outcropping of all this is not only did his Braves get totally robbed, the fans there totally and completely shamed the city of Atlanta&#8230;there is nothing he can ever ever ever say to change it, and now every single time he posts some jerk article about the phillies, we phils fans can just say &#8230;</p>
<p>well at least we didn&#8217;t get screwed out of the wild card by the new rule, get screwed out of the game by a bad call, and look like a pathetic drunken mod in front of millions of viewers&#8230;</p>
<p>so go ahead and point to the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s as if they matter&#8230;forget santa clause, forget the disco sucks disaster&#8230;The Atlanta Braves are now the post child of bad fans..</p>
<p>bye chipper, hope you enjoyed your last game (btw, he was out on that last play)</p>
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		<title>By: greenkeeper15</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greenkeeper15]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fashawks you are a first class moron. Wow the sixties. I am sure a black man was well recieved in Atlanta back in the sixties you idiot. This happened LAST night fool and you cant handle the fact you are the national embarrasment. Philadelphia fans are the best always will be the best and continue to laugh at fan bases like yours that suck. So please refrence something a little more revelant then a black man getting mistreated in the sixties and also that same man also has his name on our wall of fame jackwagon. 

Way to send chipper out sure he loved that send off]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fashawks you are a first class moron. Wow the sixties. I am sure a black man was well recieved in Atlanta back in the sixties you idiot. This happened LAST night fool and you cant handle the fact you are the national embarrasment. Philadelphia fans are the best always will be the best and continue to laugh at fan bases like yours that suck. So please refrence something a little more revelant then a black man getting mistreated in the sixties and also that same man also has his name on our wall of fame jackwagon. </p>
<p>Way to send chipper out sure he loved that send off</p>
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		<title>By: kvanhorn87</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 13:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@hawks8 that never happened. Nice makeup of a story. You do realize that this one was already debunked. Meanwhile the south held onto slavery and went to war over states rights. Then denied our people the right to go to their white schools. Let&#039;s not try to take the moral high ground. Historically, you rednecks are trash and you proved it last night. Don&#039;t worry I heard there is a NASCAR race coming up. Later scumbags]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hawks8 that never happened. Nice makeup of a story. You do realize that this one was already debunked. Meanwhile the south held onto slavery and went to war over states rights. Then denied our people the right to go to their white schools. Let&#8217;s not try to take the moral high ground. Historically, you rednecks are trash and you proved it last night. Don&#8217;t worry I heard there is a NASCAR race coming up. Later scumbags</p>
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		<title>By: southofheaven81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southofheaven81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 11:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really?

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=yankees+orioles+teixeira+double+play&amp;hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=kp8&amp;sa=X&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;biw=1280&amp;bih=707&amp;tbm=isch&amp;prmd=imvns&amp;tbnid=Cwi11Y2Ktr-E6M:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.businessinsider.com/photo-here-is-the-embarassing-blown-call-that-may-have-cost-the-yankees-their-division-lead-2012-9&amp;docid=F3ZGUVBEAwkDaM&amp;imgurl=http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/504c03736bb3f77447000013-960/orioles-yankees.jpg&amp;w=933&amp;h=530&amp;ei=zxBwUMefGoqV0QH1l4GwAw&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=rc&amp;dur=43&amp;sig=113179066523194749660&amp;page=1&amp;tbnh=116&amp;tbnw=204&amp;start=0&amp;ndsp=15&amp;ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:82&amp;tx=41&amp;ty=67]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?q=yankees+orioles+teixeira+double+play&#038;hl=en&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;hs=kp8&#038;sa=X&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;biw=1280&#038;bih=707&#038;tbm=isch&#038;prmd=imvns&#038;tbnid=Cwi11Y2Ktr-E6M:&#038;imgrefurl=http://www.businessinsider.com/photo-here-is-the-embarassing-blown-call-that-may-have-cost-the-yankees-their-division-lead-2012-9&#038;docid=F3ZGUVBEAwkDaM&#038;imgurl=http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/504c03736bb3f77447000013-960/orioles-yankees.jpg&#038;w=933&#038;h=530&#038;ei=zxBwUMefGoqV0QH1l4GwAw&#038;zoom=1&#038;iact=rc&#038;dur=43&#038;sig=113179066523194749660&#038;page=1&#038;tbnh=116&#038;tbnw=204&#038;start=0&#038;ndsp=15&#038;ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:82&#038;tx=41&#038;ty=67" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/imgres?q=yankees+orioles+teixeira+double+play&#038;hl=en&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;hs=kp8&#038;sa=X&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;biw=1280&#038;bih=707&#038;tbm=isch&#038;prmd=imvns&#038;tbnid=Cwi11Y2Ktr-E6M:&#038;imgrefurl=http://www.businessinsider.com/photo-here-is-the-embarassing-blown-call-that-may-have-cost-the-yankees-their-division-lead-2012-9&#038;docid=F3ZGUVBEAwkDaM&#038;imgurl=http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/504c03736bb3f77447000013-960/orioles-yankees.jpg&#038;w=933&#038;h=530&#038;ei=zxBwUMefGoqV0QH1l4GwAw&#038;zoom=1&#038;iact=rc&#038;dur=43&#038;sig=113179066523194749660&#038;page=1&#038;tbnh=116&#038;tbnw=204&#038;start=0&#038;ndsp=15&#038;ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:82&#038;tx=41&#038;ty=67</a></p>
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		<title>By: southofheaven81</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southofheaven81]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 11:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Imperfect Game still takes the cake. But this was still just so, so wretched.]]></description>
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		<title>By: fashawks8</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-3/#comment-377308</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fashawks8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 07:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the &#039;60s Philly fans whipped batteries at the team&#039;s only black player so often he started wearing a batting helmet in the outfield. They are in a class of their own. 
What happened in Atlanta is no more complicated than alcohol + people + anger. I&#039;m from Atlanta and was at the game tonight. The 20 minute delay was idiotic and embarassing. But it could have happened just about anywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the &#8217;60s Philly fans whipped batteries at the team&#8217;s only black player so often he started wearing a batting helmet in the outfield. They are in a class of their own.<br />
What happened in Atlanta is no more complicated than alcohol + people + anger. I&#8217;m from Atlanta and was at the game tonight. The 20 minute delay was idiotic and embarassing. But it could have happened just about anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: eagles512</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eagles512]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 05:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing how all of the talk is about the call. If this were Philly, all the talk would be about the idiots in the crowd. But I&#039;m not surprised at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing how all of the talk is about the call. If this were Philly, all the talk would be about the idiots in the crowd. But I&#8217;m not surprised at all.</p>
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		<title>By: mogogo1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 03:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who on earth makes a call like that in a game of that magnitude?  Dude should never be allowed to umpire again. I&#039;d be a bit more sympathetic if it had been called immediately...like it&#039;s supposed to.  But with that call if you wait to make it, then it&#039;s too late.  The infielder is sprinting away from the infield, halfway to the wall.  If that&#039;s ordinary effort, then infielders might as well play without gloves because they&#039;ll never need to catch a ball again, the umps can just call everything an out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who on earth makes a call like that in a game of that magnitude?  Dude should never be allowed to umpire again. I&#8217;d be a bit more sympathetic if it had been called immediately&#8230;like it&#8217;s supposed to.  But with that call if you wait to make it, then it&#8217;s too late.  The infielder is sprinting away from the infield, halfway to the wall.  If that&#8217;s ordinary effort, then infielders might as well play without gloves because they&#8217;ll never need to catch a ball again, the umps can just call everything an out.</p>
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		<title>By: mrwillie</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-2/#comment-377205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrwillie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 03:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sour Grapes....of course my team lost in the &quot;playoffs&quot;, you want me to throw a party?

Yeah, the braves pissed it away tonight, the lost, and they should have never let it get to the point where one call could even be a factor. That being said, that does not give the umps a free pass on a blown call, game changer or not. You get nine innings to play, no matter what you&#039;ve done to that point. So the &quot;it doesn&#039;t really matter&quot; argument is lost on me because there were 2 more innings to go.

So no, it didn&#039;t happen tonight....umps or not. But I believe i detect the scent of an arrogant winner....unlike most cards fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sour Grapes&#8230;.of course my team lost in the &#8220;playoffs&#8221;, you want me to throw a party?</p>
<p>Yeah, the braves pissed it away tonight, the lost, and they should have never let it get to the point where one call could even be a factor. That being said, that does not give the umps a free pass on a blown call, game changer or not. You get nine innings to play, no matter what you&#8217;ve done to that point. So the &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t really matter&#8221; argument is lost on me because there were 2 more innings to go.</p>
<p>So no, it didn&#8217;t happen tonight&#8230;.umps or not. But I believe i detect the scent of an arrogant winner&#8230;.unlike most cards fans.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackkosar</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-3/#comment-377195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bringbackkosar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 03:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way to send off Chipper on a national TV broadcast, Braves fans. First we get the moronic chop and chant all game, then you trash the field after the questionable call. You guys make Philly fans look smart and classy in comparison. Glad they&#039;re out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to send off Chipper on a national TV broadcast, Braves fans. First we get the moronic chop and chant all game, then you trash the field after the questionable call. You guys make Philly fans look smart and classy in comparison. Glad they&#8217;re out</p>
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		<title>By: greymares</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-1/#comment-377175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greymares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig stop bashing Philly fans? no way he will tell us every bottle thrown on the field was done by people wearing phillies jerseys. wait he may be right the Braves fans never fill the park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig stop bashing Philly fans? no way he will tell us every bottle thrown on the field was done by people wearing phillies jerseys. wait he may be right the Braves fans never fill the park.</p>
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		<title>By: stlouis1baseball</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-2/#comment-377173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stlouis1baseball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah...what Bob said!]]></description>
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		<title>By: stanleyfrankmusial</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-2/#comment-377146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stanleyfrankmusial]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sure didn&#039;t happen tonight, did it Mr. Willie? I believe i detect the scent of sour grapes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure didn&#8217;t happen tonight, did it Mr. Willie? I believe i detect the scent of sour grapes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 8man</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-3/#comment-377126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[8man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bad call.  MLB deserves whatever pain ensues.  Holbrook blew it.  Take the human element out of the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad call.  MLB deserves whatever pain ensues.  Holbrook blew it.  Take the human element out of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-2/#comment-377117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kozma pulls off BEFORE the arm goes up, I think. I think he heard the LFers feet, because I think the call is simultaneous with the arm: after Kozma&#039;s given up. Bad call.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kozma pulls off BEFORE the arm goes up, I think. I think he heard the LFers feet, because I think the call is simultaneous with the arm: after Kozma&#8217;s given up. Bad call.</p>
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		<title>By: mrwillie</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-3/#comment-377113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrwillie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simple question. Has anyone ever seen an infield fly called with the infielder in a full sprint towards an outfield wall?

I can&#039;t think of one, usually an infielder standing under a fly, not chasing one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple question. Has anyone ever seen an infield fly called with the infielder in a full sprint towards an outfield wall?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of one, usually an infielder standing under a fly, not chasing one.</p>
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		<title>By: forsch31</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[forsch31]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the official MLB definition of the infield fly rule: 

&quot;An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.
When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare Infield Fly for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare Infield Fly, if Fair.
The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an Infield Fly.&quot;

1. As the first part of the rule states, an infield fly isn&#039;t defined by location on the field; it&#039;s defined whether an infielder can catch it with ordinary effort. Note that Pete Kozma was settling under the ball he suddenly turned head to look behind him *and ran forward,* as if Holliday had called him off.

2. As the second part of the rule states, the umpire is supposed to call the infield fly rule as soon as it becomes apparent it is one. The Youtube video that anmesia posted clearly shows that the umpire on the left field line called it--his arm is goes up right when Kozma suddenly lurched forward (see 1:48 of the video) and right after he seems to set up to make the catch (compare Kozma&#039;s body language to David Freese&#039;s dropped pop-up in Game 6 last year).

The infield fly rule was created to prevent fielders from deceiving runners by intentionally dropping balls. That&#039;s the only justification that that umpire has in calling the rule--he saw Kozma suddenly abandon the fly ball and called the rule to prevent a double-play that never was going to happen. Otherwise, there&#039;s no reason to call it in that situation--while Kozma easily could have caught that ball, the timing between him settling under the ball and the ball coming down shouldn&#039;t have allowed for the rule. The runners obviously wouldn&#039;t have &quot;received the benefit&quot; of the call being made--they were both off the bag as the ball was coming down.

Holliday&#039;s bewilderment behind the play speaks volumes--I&#039;m not sure exactly what happened with Kozma there. Kozma is obviously reacting to something, whether it&#039;s Holliday&#039;s footsteps or somebody yelling at him. But his reaction is just weird.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the official MLB definition of the infield fly rule: </p>
<p>&#8220;An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.<br />
When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare Infield Fly for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare Infield Fly, if Fair.<br />
The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.<br />
If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an Infield Fly.&#8221;</p>
<p>1. As the first part of the rule states, an infield fly isn&#8217;t defined by location on the field; it&#8217;s defined whether an infielder can catch it with ordinary effort. Note that Pete Kozma was settling under the ball he suddenly turned head to look behind him *and ran forward,* as if Holliday had called him off.</p>
<p>2. As the second part of the rule states, the umpire is supposed to call the infield fly rule as soon as it becomes apparent it is one. The Youtube video that anmesia posted clearly shows that the umpire on the left field line called it&#8211;his arm is goes up right when Kozma suddenly lurched forward (see 1:48 of the video) and right after he seems to set up to make the catch (compare Kozma&#8217;s body language to David Freese&#8217;s dropped pop-up in Game 6 last year).</p>
<p>The infield fly rule was created to prevent fielders from deceiving runners by intentionally dropping balls. That&#8217;s the only justification that that umpire has in calling the rule&#8211;he saw Kozma suddenly abandon the fly ball and called the rule to prevent a double-play that never was going to happen. Otherwise, there&#8217;s no reason to call it in that situation&#8211;while Kozma easily could have caught that ball, the timing between him settling under the ball and the ball coming down shouldn&#8217;t have allowed for the rule. The runners obviously wouldn&#8217;t have &#8220;received the benefit&#8221; of the call being made&#8211;they were both off the bag as the ball was coming down.</p>
<p>Holliday&#8217;s bewilderment behind the play speaks volumes&#8211;I&#8217;m not sure exactly what happened with Kozma there. Kozma is obviously reacting to something, whether it&#8217;s Holliday&#8217;s footsteps or somebody yelling at him. But his reaction is just weird.</p>
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		<title>By: mrwillie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrwillie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, from now on when a team is down a few runs late in the game we should just send the umps home, they aren&#039;t needed anymore when the game gets to that point. Hell why even play 9 innings, let&#039;s just arbitrarily decided when games are over from now. 9th inning come backs? Yeah right, that never happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, from now on when a team is down a few runs late in the game we should just send the umps home, they aren&#8217;t needed anymore when the game gets to that point. Hell why even play 9 innings, let&#8217;s just arbitrarily decided when games are over from now. 9th inning come backs? Yeah right, that never happens.</p>
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		<title>By: darkglobe1</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/05/anger-in-atlanta-after-controversial-infield-fly-call/comment-page-2/#comment-377056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darkglobe1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people act as if it was a one run game. bad call? yes. but the Braves kicking and throwing the ball all over the place is what cost them the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people act as if it was a one run game. bad call? yes. but the Braves kicking and throwing the ball all over the place is what cost them the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobias Industries</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gobias Industries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t wondering.]]></description>
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