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NLDS Preview: Giants vs. Reds

Oct 6, 2012, 8:30 AM EDT

Buster Posey AP AP

You can’t predict baseball, but you can at least lay out the parameters. So let’s take a look at what the Giants and Reds have in store for us in the National League Division Series.

The Teams

San Francisco Giants (94-68) vs. Cincinnati Reds (97-65)

The Matchups

Game 1 Saturday in San Francisco: Johnny Cueto vs. Matt Cain
Game 2 Sunday in San Francisco: Bronson Arroyo vs. Madison Bumgarner
Game 3 Tuesday in Cincinnati: Undecided vs. Mat Latos
Game 4 (if necessary) Wednesday in Cincinnati
Game 5 (if necessary) Thursday in Cincinnati

Analysis: You have to like the Giants’ chances in Game 1, as Cain has a 2.62 ERA at home dating back to 2009. Only eight pitchers have been better during the same timespan. I’m not crazy about Arroyo going in Game 2, but Bumgarner allowed four earned runs or more in five out of his final seven starts. And that would worry me a bit if I was a Giants fan.

We know who the Reds will put out there for the first three games, but Bruce Bochy hasn’t announced who will start Game 3 because he has left open the possibility that Tim Lincecum, Barry Zito and Ryan Vogelsong will pitch in relief at some point during the first two games of the series. It’s likely that Homer Bailey will start Game 4 for the Reds and while he was excellent down the stretch (including a no-hitter against the Pirates on September 28), he had a 5.16 ERA in 17 starts at home this year. Meanwhile, his 2.32 ERA on the road was the best among qualified starters. But enough of my second-guessing.

The Storylines

  • The Reds took the season series 4-3 while outscoring the Giants 28-21.
  • It’s critical for the Giants to get at least one, maybe both, of the games at AT&T Park, as the Reds finished tied with the Cardinals and Nationals for the best home record (50-31) in the National League.
  • This might surprise you, but the Giants actually outscored the Reds (718-669) during the regular season. Of course, Dusty Baker relied on Drew Stubbs (.277 on-base percentage) and Zack Cozart (.288 on-base percentage) out of the top two spots in the order for the majority of the season. Oh, and the Reds only got 111 games out of Joey Votto. To be fair, Brandon Phillips has batted primarily out of the leadoff spot since Votto returned from the disabled list. He’s no on-base machine, but that’s still a pretty significant improvement for the top of the order.
  • When Melky Cabrera was suspended for testing positive for synthetic testosterone, there were plenty of folks who were ready to write the Giants off as a potential playoff team. But they went 30-15 over their final 45 games. Buster Posey has led the charge in his first season back from a devastating ankle injury, winning his first career batting crown* while emerging as one of the favorites for National League MVP, but Marco Scutaro and Angel Pagan have also been pretty good. Hunter Pence somehow managed 45 RBI in 59 games after coming over from the Phillies, despite batting just .219/.287/.384 with a .671 OPS. Pablo Sandoval finally showed some pop down the stretch, so perhaps he’s finally back on track from hamate bone surgery. Still, relying on Gregor Blanco and Xavier Nady in left field has to catch up with the Giants at some point, doesn’t it?
  • What are we going to get from Lincecum? He finished the season with a 5.18 ERA, the fourth-highest among qualified starters. And while he had better results during the second half (3.83 ERA), he walked 40 batters in 89 1/3 innings, including 22 in 35 innings in September. He had a 6.43 ERA on the road this season while allowing 16 homers in 84 innings, so a start at Great American Ballpark could be good news for the Reds.
  • Joey Votto doesn’t have a home run since June 24, but he batted .316/.505/.421 with eight doubles and a 20/28 K/BB ratio over 105 plate appearances after returning from knee surgery. While the Reds would sure love for him to provide some power alongside the likes of Jay Bruce and Ryan Ludwick, he’s still one of the toughest outs in the game. It says something when you lead the league in walks despite missing two months.
  • The Giants were fourth in the National League this season with 118 stolen bases (that number includes 13 from Melky Cabrera) while the Reds were 14th with 87 swipes. It’s fair to expect the Giants to be a bit more active on the basepaths, but remember that Ryan Hanigan threw out attempted basestealers at a major-league best rate of 48 percent this season.
  • Buoyed by strong performances by Aroldis Chapman, Sean Marshall and Jonathan Broxton, Reds relievers finished first in the majors this season with a 2.65 ERA. And that’s despite losing closer Ryan Madson to Tommy John surgery during spring training. Meanwhile, the Giants were eighth in the National League with a 3.56 bullpen ERA. Bruce Bochy has relied on multiple relievers out of the closer role since Brian Wilson had Tommy John surgery, including Santiago Casilla, Sergio Romo, Javier Lopez and Jeremy Affeldt. I don’t think this matchup is as stark as the numbers would have you believe, but I would rather be on the side with Chapman assuming he’s over his recent shoulder fatigue.


Boy, this is a tough one. I really think this has the chance to be the most competitive division series matchup. If the Reds can get one of the two games in San Francisco, they should have the advantage coming home. And I think they’ll pull it off. The Reds might be the best all-around team in the entire playoffs.


  1. natslady - Oct 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    The Reds benefited (and built up a lot of those gaudy stats) from playing in a weak division. (Cubs, Stros, and MIL when they had the terrible bullpen, and Pittsburgh after their collapse). The Giants prevailed in a better division. The Nationals beat both teams soundly in their respective season series (leading Bochy to comment, “they are the best team in MLB for a reason,” or something like that, so I like our odds against either one–assuming we get past the Cards, which I think is the real challenge.

    I’m gonna go Giants, 3-2.

    • temporarilyexiled - Oct 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

      While the Central was lousy, the West wasn’t exactly great. The Giants need to win both at home, or have to win two in Cincinnati, which seems unlikely. I can easily see them winning the first two if Bumgarner is on. If he isn’t, or Cueto outduels Cain, the Reds will probably advance. I’d put the series dead even before game one. After, well, that’s another story. As for the Nationals, hold on there natslady. Yes, there were the best during the season. But now, they’re faced with putting a stake through the Cardinals’ hearts, and if they forget to cut off their heads and fill their mouths with garlic, we may just be talking about that team that won as an underdog in three of the last seven years. I’m counting on your team to rid us of the undead.

      • natslady - Oct 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM

        Agree on the quality of the NL West. Actually, with the Fish collapse and the Mets becoming the Mets, the East wasn’t much better. Nats got pushed by Atlanta and to some extent by Filly, so that they were playing to the end.

        I believe I said the Cards are the Nats’ biggest (remaining) challenge in the NL, so no argument there.

    • metalhead65 - Oct 6, 2012 at 1:53 PM

      why is the central a weak division when the reds win but not when the brewers or cardinals win it? yes it has the cubs and astros but those teams are in it when brewers and cards win and you did not hear it called weak when they won. either way the reds won it and had the 2nd best record in the league so they did something right even with crusty as the manager.

    • gregblatz - Oct 6, 2012 at 8:08 PM

      The Brewers were a winning team this season.
      The Pirates didn’t give away any easy wins.
      The Cardinals are going to the NLDS
      The Reds beat out 5 other teams in a division that had 2 stinkers(stros and cubs) and 3 good ball clubs.

  2. prosourcetalk - Oct 6, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Giants in 4

  3. nineroutsider - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Who has had more first round playoff exits than Dusty? I love watching him manage himself out of the postseason, except for you know, all the times he did it here. He does it again against the Giants.

  4. pilonflats - Oct 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Sorry DJ, your prediction comes up short on this one – Giants in 3, 4 or 5. Timaaaayyyyyy!!!

  5. dutchman45 - Oct 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM

    Reds will light up the scoreboard tonight. jay Bruce is due to bust out of slump and showed signs last few games. Also reds have motivation after the last playoff appearance. Do not discount Bronson Arroyo. If he is on will be a long night for Giants. Cueto, Latos, and Bailey are not chopped liver. Reds in 4

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