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NLDS Game 3 lineups: Giants vs. Reds

Oct 9, 2012, 1:50 PM EDT

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Here are the lineups for Game 3 of the NLDS between the Giants and Reds, in Cincinnati:

   SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS           CINCINNATI REDS
1. Angel Pagan, CF             1. Brandon Phillips, 2B
2. Marco Scutaro, 2B           2. Zack Cozart, SS
3. Pablo Sandoval, 3B          3. Joey Votto, 1B
4. Buster Posey, C             4. Ryan Ludwick, LF
5. Hunter Pence, RF            5. Jay Bruce, RF
6. Brandon Belt, 1B            6. Scott Rolen, 3B
7. Gregor Blanco, LF           7. Ryan Hanigan, C
8. Brandon Crawford, SS        8. Drew Stubbs, CF
9. Ryan Vogelsong, SP          9. Homer Bailey, SP

Bruce Bochy and Dusty Baker are both using the exact same lineups they used in Game 1 and Game 2, so obviously the handedness of the starting pitchers involved doesn’t matter to either manager. Todd Frazier is on the Reds’ bench for the third straight game, as Baker sticks with veteran Scott Rolen at third base instead of the rookie who hit .273 with 19 homers and an .829 OPS in 465 regular season plate appearances.

Homer Bailey was initially scheduled to start Game 4, but that changed when Johnny Cueto exited the series-opener with a back injury and Mat Latos was needed in relief. Bailey tossed a no-hitter two weeks ago and finished the season with 13 straight shutout innings. And with their season on the line the Giants will turn to Ryan Vogelsong, who struggled for most of August and September before stringing together a few solid outings to finish the season.

  1. stlouis1baseball - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    Good luck Cincinnati Reds! I am pulling for another all NL Central Championship series.

  2. bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    I’m at a loss as to why Frazier isn’t given a chance to play. I mean the kid has earned it 100x over. Give him a shot Dusty! Sheesh.

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:17 PM

      Cause’ he isn’t a “veteran.” Much like Chris Heisey. That…and all your guys’ games have been night games.
      Rolen plays very few day games (if at all).
      Not that I necessarily agree w/ Dusty’s choice to not play Frazier (and I am a huge Scottie Rolen fan).

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM

        “Cause he isn’t a veteran” isn’t a good enough reason for me. The kid was in the running for ROY this year. He played great ball. Was never a liability on the field in any sense of the word. He deserves a shot at playing in this series. And the whole day game/night game BS, that’s stupid. If that’s the case, Rolen shouldn’t be playing ball if he can only play night games. It’s Frazier’s turn to get in the spotlight. Rolen, as great a ball player as he was and still can be at times, should be mentoring Frazier while Frazier is playing the field. He should not be sitting the bench waiting for Rolen to retire.

    • stoutfiles - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:18 PM

      They are trying to win a playoff series, not give everyone equal playing time. The Reds are up 2-0, if they start to lose or someone gets tired, they’ll plug in Frazier, but why rock the boat when you’ve got a good thing going?

      I’m wondering why Bochy isn’t switching up his lineup, at least the order of it.

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:22 PM

        It’s not like we are putting Cairo in for Rolen just so he can get some playing time here. Frazier has played better ball than Rolen this year. Yet Rolen gets the nod because he’s a veteran? Don’t we want Frazier to get some experience before going deeper in the playoffs? We are up in the series 2-0. Now is the time to put Frazier in to get playing time to get him used to the playoff atmosphere on the field.

    • tomnickle - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM

      Scott Rolen made an error in this series. But he’s still among the best defensive third basemen in the National League.

      Rolen has seen the pressure of playoff baseball. He knows how to eliminate jitters while standing in the box during crucial situations.

      Rolen doesn’t hit too well for average any more and he certainly doesn’t have a lot of power. But he’s a huge upgrade defensively on Frazier and he’s been there before.

      Frazier will get his chance in these playoffs. But it shouldn’t be at the expense of Rolen in the starting lineup.

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:24 PM

        I’d like to know how Rolen is a “huge upgrade” over Frazier defensively. Please show me where you get that information.

      • randomfan999 - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:38 PM

        Rolen IS better defensively at third than Frazier is. Rolen made an error in this series, but it should have been scored an infield hit in my opinion. 2/3 of the third basemen in the league wouldn’t have made that play and Rolen missed the throw while he was sprinting full speed.

        Frazier is a great player, but Rolen > Frazier on the hot corner.

        I think that’s why Dusty is keeping Rolen in there. It’s definitely not for his bat. I think if the likes of Phillips, Bruce, Hannigan didn’t bring out the bats the last 2 games we would see Frazier in there. If the chemistry is working, why mess with it?

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:56 PM

        Again I want to see stats (I know they’re out there because they have stats on EVERYTHING for baseball) showing that Rolen is a better 3rd baseman than Frazier. Yes Rolen, in his prime, was better than Frazier. But Rolen present-day is not. They are close to the same if you ask me. Please back up your claim with facts. Can’t just go by your word for it because of the handful of games you’ve watched this year.

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:14 PM

        Ok so here are some very basic stats.

        Rolen- 719.1 innings played, 45 put outs, 139 assists, 10 errors and 6 double plays turned with a .948 fielding percentage.

        Frazier- 589.2 innings played, 45 put outs (even and with fewer innings played), 105 assists (about even considering amount of innings played), 5 errors (half of what Rolen has yet played much more than 50% of innings compared to what Rolen has played), 4 double plays turned with a .968 fielding percentage.

        So how did you guys come up with Rolen being MUCH better than Frazier??? Hmmmm

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

        Oh and the stats for Frazier are only for 3rd base. Those don’t include anything for any other position he has played at.

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

      Dude…I didn’t say I agreed with any of it. I am just telling you why.
      It is a proven fact that Dusty is Veteran leaning. Always has been.
      it’s also a proven fact that Rolen doesn’t play many day games.
      As a late 30′s veteran…this shouldn’t come as a surprise.
      The reason for this is days games follow night games a lot of the time.
      Frazier should be playing. At least getting some AB’s. Heisey should as well.
      You guys are gonna need em.’ Especially in the longer series.

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:01 PM

        I wasn’t aiming my comment back at you. I agree with what you said. Those reasons are why he’s playing over Frazier. I’m just saying I don’t buy those reasons. I meant to aim those more at Dusty. lol Sorry about the misdirection.

    • amunoz78 - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:36 PM

      They won 97 games, are up 2-0 in the NLDS, and you’re complaining about Frazier not getting playing time?!?!? Wha?!?!?!?!

      • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM

        Absolutely. Who’s to say Rolen doesn’t roll out of bed for game 1 of the NLCS and has a stiff back like he’s done how many times this year? And then you throw Frazier in cold with no experience when he wasn’t expecting to play. Why not boost his confidence and put him in before you absolutely have to? Like I said, it’s not like we’re putting in a career back-up (example: Miguel Cairo) in to get him some playoff experience. This kid should be our future 3rd baseman (hopefully). So why make him ride the bench when we could be using his abilities?

      • jonrox - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:48 PM

        It still makes sense to check your tire pressure, even if your car already gets great mile-per-gallon. Just because something is good doesn’t mean it can’t be better, particularly when we are discussing objectively better options.

        Here, Frazier objectively outplayed Rolen all year. Each got over 300 at-bats, so we can’t say that either’s productivity was a fluke. Rolen isn’t that much of a defensive upgrade over Frazier to make up for the huge upgrade that Frazier is when up to bat.

      • ezthinking - Oct 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM

        Frazier has been ice-cold with the bat in Sept. and into October. Rolen has been marginally better, so it goes to him. Plus, Frazier is perfect for the double switch. He played first and third last game. His “usefulness” means he’s a bench guy.

  3. psuravens19 - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Red will be representing the NL in the WS…

    • Nick C - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:34 PM

      Cards 8-7 v. CIN this year and outscored them 60-46.

      CIN 2-5 v. WSH. Outscored 29-25.

      • bovice23 - Oct 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM

        Reds: 2-0 in the postseason, Outscored opponents 14-2. It’s not how you played 3 months ago, it’s about how you’re playing now.

      • Nick C - Oct 9, 2012 at 5:42 PM

        bovice23 – CIN 4-3 v. SFG and outscored them 28-21. And STL beat CIN 2 of 3 last week. Seems like trends are holding.

  4. bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    On a positive note, I’m glad Dusty finally realized that Drew Stubbs should be at the bottom of the line-up instead of at the top. He has actually hit much better there.

  5. blacubed - Oct 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Many of you are questioning why Frazier isn’t starting over Rolen, but at this point why isn’t Frazier starting over Votto? Votto has been a statue at 1st and a glorified Sean Casey at the plate since coming back from the knee injury.

    I understand he has the huge contract and veteran status, but it’s evident that he’s not anywhere near healthy.

    • bengalsucker - Oct 9, 2012 at 3:00 PM

      I believe he’s healthy, but he’s just not back in the game mentally yet. And he’s not going to get back in the game by sitting on the bench while Frazier is playing first for him. Votto just needs time. He’s a fragile guy. How many games has he missed because he has “head issues”? He needs to be handled very carefully. Sitting him on the bench won’t fix anything.
      Rolen, on the other hand, is aged. He doesn’t move like he used to and Frazier is a hot playing rookie who can move. I just don’t get where people think present-day Rolen is better than Frazier at 3rd. I don’t see it and they obviously can’t back up those claims with stats. So they’re going to believe themselves.

    • redlegs7 - Oct 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM

      Are you mental?

    • brucewaynewins - Oct 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM

      blacubed….was that a serious question or are you just the greatest troll to hardballtalk.com in a long time? Frazier over Votto? Those were bad throws to 1B in game 1. He did great offensively in game 1 and made it on base in both games. Joey Votto at his current state is better than anyone else on the team offensively. smh

  6. randygnyc - Oct 9, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Here we go again? I’ll be the first to post this, Bailey’s got a no hitter through one inning.

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