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Quote of the Day: Kobe Bryant on A-Rod

Oct 17, 2012, 8:23 AM EDT

Kobe Bryant calls A-Rod his friend. After this, one wonders if Rodriguez feels the same way:

 

Funny stuff, but I am not sold on the premise that A-Rod is having “mental problems.”  Call me crazy, but I would not be at all shocked if we find out over the winter that Rodriguez is suffering from the after affects from that fractured hand he sustained over the summer or has some other sort of nagging injury.

  1. stoutfiles - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

    “or has some other sort of nagging injury”.

    He’s old and he’s not cheating anymore. It’s harder to notice his age since Jeter is still getting hits but most players stop producing at 35+.

    • stoutfiles - Oct 17, 2012 at 11:41 AM

      Wow, lot of thumbs down! Let me hit you with some facts then.

      His OPS

      2007: 1.067
      2008: .965
      2009: .933
      2010: .847
      2011: .823
      2012: .783.

      Swinging at pitches outside the strike zone
      2009: 21.1 percent
      2010: 25.3 percent
      2011: 27.0 percent
      2012: 31.3 percent

      It’s called old age. It happens. Unless we want to make an argument that ARod has had a nagging injury for the last 4-5 years, this is what is happening. He’s just going to keep getting worse, sorry Yankee fans.

      • 1baseballfan - Oct 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

        Thumbs down because your conclusion doesn’t explain a .330 OPS in the playoffs.

        Yes I know the pitching is better but it’s not THAT much better. His OPS before the injury .807. OPS after the injury .678 (only 100 AB).

      • stoutfiles - Oct 17, 2012 at 12:55 PM

        I’m not covering postseason stats because that’s silly. If we did that, Swisher must have a broken leg, Granderson a ruptured spleen, and Cano was stabbed in the gut multiple times. It’s too small a sample size to mean anything.

        People can go on slumps, it happens. It’s happening to the whole team. The only difference is that in ARod’s case it’s not a slump anymore, it’s just him. There’s a reason Joe benched a guy that has gone 3 for 23 and not benched Cano who had gone 0 for 27. Cano is still a good player, ARod isn’t. This is the player you’re getting from now on, a below average 3rd basemen that isn’t seeing the ball well anymore.

      • 1baseballfan - Oct 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM

        So Chavez must be above average.

  2. stex52 - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM

    I was thinking that myself this morning, Craig. I remember a whole year where people were calling Berkman fat and out of shape and claiming he had lost his bat speed. ( I actually agreed on the bat speed part).

    Turns out he was trying to play on a knee that had not completely healed from surgery. He came back in 2011 and tore up the league.

    Since we don’t know how much that hand is hurting ARod (and we all know the hand strength it takes to be a slugger) I will want to see him next spring before I judge him “finished.”

  3. aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:36 AM

    How is that a dig at A-Rod?

    Kobe is basically saying that he considers him one of the greatest players of all-time (hard to argue just on the raw numbers, despite how I personally feel about him), but that he’s having confidence issues that are affecting his play.

    I dunno…I don’t see what he said as being particularly odd or controversial.

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 17, 2012 at 9:49 AM

      Agreed Aces. In fact…I also took it like Kobe hasn’t forgotten Arod is one of the best to ever play.

      • cur68 - Oct 17, 2012 at 11:32 AM

        twitter punctuation problem. He’s TRYING to say “I, Kobe Bryant, haven’t forgotten that ARod’s the best”. Not that he thinks ARod’s having mental problems.

    • cosanostra71 - Oct 17, 2012 at 1:32 PM

      The whole quote,

      “I just say to him, ‘You’re Alex Rodriguez. You’re A-Rod. You’re one of the best to ever do it,’” Bryant said. “I think sometimes he kind of forgets that and wants to try to do the right thing all the time. Which is the right team attitude to have. But other times you really have to put your head down and say, ‘Hell with it’ and just do your thing.

      “Hopefully the next game they’ll kind of give him a chance, maybe put him back at third and let him respond to the pressure, which I think he’ll do….

      “We’re different,” Bryant said. “But you’re talking about, ‘He’s one of the best to ever play.’ I think really the difference is, sometimes he forgets he’s the best. … Where, I don’t.”

      It wasn’t a dig at A-Rod at all. Go Lakers.

  4. wintwins - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    I don’t forget I’m one of the best ever to play (basketball) or I don’t forget he’s one of the best ever to play (baseball)?

    One interpretation is cocky, and the other is trying to be supportive.

    • aceshigh11 - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:41 AM

      Oh, I gotcha.

      Kobe is saying that HE doesn’t forget that HE (Kobe) is one of the greatest basketball players of all time.

      I read it as Kobe saying that he hasn’t forgotten that A-Rod is still one of the greatest baseball players of all time.

      Interpreted the first way, then yeah…definitely cocky, and more in-line with Kobe’s personality as of late (at least since his “incident” in Colorado).

      • Old Gator - Oct 17, 2012 at 9:21 AM

        Because it’s Kobe, you kinda have to go with the more self-indulgent bonmot.

        But neither interpretation helps explaining the joint collapse of the Borg’s entire batting order. Nothing does.

      • stex52 - Oct 17, 2012 at 12:37 PM

        Explanations not needed. It’s baseball. Ask the Rangers how they feel about mega-slumps. Oh, whoops! Too late.

  5. lookatmike - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:41 AM

    Yeah… Unless there’s a larger quote there, “mental problems” was Duran’s phrase, not Kobe’s. And quite the reach at that. Nothing in Kobe’s quote sounds anything other than pep-talky.

  6. gugurich - Oct 17, 2012 at 8:44 AM

    Of course I can’t say but I doubt these two are closest buds. As such, it wouldn’t surprise me if A-Rod is annoyed about another athlete from another sport pontificating about his state of mind. Why is Kobe even making statements about A-Rod in the first place? Oh right, to say that an exciting come from behind win was a threat to clubhouse chemistry because the team was put before the star. Yep, yap away Kobe.

  7. willclarkgameface - Oct 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Two words: Jim Rice

    “Welcome to the club”, says Jim Rice.

  8. pmcenroe - Oct 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Derek: “I don’t know, Alex. That sounds kinda crazy.”
    Kobe: “Sounds like you have mental problems, man.”
    Swish: “Yeah, you have mental problems, man.”
    Kobe: “Yeah, it really does.”
    Swish: “Man.”

    • willclarkgameface - Oct 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

      Raffi: “Guys. We should hang out and try to score some chicks while I’m in town. I know a guy. Dirty Randy. He’s an ass hole, but will get you laid”.
      Alex: I’m in.

      • pmcenroe - Oct 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

        El Cuñado!!!

  9. gpatrick15 - Oct 17, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    PBT has the full quote:

    “I just say to him, ‘You’re Alex Rodriguez. You’re A-Rod. You’re one of the best to ever do it,’” Bryant said. “I think sometimes he kind of forgets that and wants to try to do the right thing all the time. Which is the right team attitude to have. But other times you really have to put your head down and say, ‘Hell with it’ and just do your thing.

    “Hopefully the next game they’ll kind of give him a chance, maybe put him back at third and let him respond to the pressure, which I think he’ll do….

    “We’re different,” Bryant said. “But you’re talking about, ‘He’s one of the best to ever play.’ I think really the difference is, sometimes he forgets he’s the best. … Where, I don’t.”
    So yeah, it’s mostly Kobe being a bit arrogant and confident, which is part of why people hate him and part of what makes him great.

    • cur68 - Oct 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM

      Huh. I totally read that the other way. Looks like it IS just KB being KB. Dang. That’s some ego right there.

  10. ericellers - Oct 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    All aroid needs is a few sessions with Stuart Smalley in some positive affirmation one on ones, he did it for Mike Jordon and look how we’ll that went.

  11. pmcenroe - Oct 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    What if Girardi put Arod at SS tonight? That would be a pretty crazy twist. I would love to see how that would play out

  12. illadelphiasphinest - Oct 17, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    So Kobe is a Laker. From the Suburbs of Philly. Who is a Yankee fan, and a Philadelphia Eagles fan…. Kobe is a JOKE!!!

    • illadelphiasphinest - Oct 17, 2012 at 3:30 PM

      Who’s his favorite hockey team the LA Kings??? Or the Penguins? Or the Red Wings??

  13. pisano - Oct 17, 2012 at 5:35 PM

    Kobe and Arod have a lot in common, they’re both whore mongers, they relate.

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