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Hal Steinbrenner says Alex Rodriguez is getting too much of the blame

Oct 19, 2012, 7:01 PM EDT

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Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner had a telephone interview with the Associated Press earlier today and you’ll be shocked to learn that he was asked about Alex Rodriguez.

While Steinbrenner wouldn’t discuss any speculation about whether Rodriguez will be back in New York next season, he did say that the the 37-year-old is getting too much of the blame for the team’s ALCS loss to the Tigers.

“He was just one of quite a few that just had a bad time at the plate,” the team’s co-chairperson said Friday during a telephone interview with The Associated Press. “So is it fair to accuse him of everything but the Kennedy assassination? No, it’s not fair, but we’ll see what happens from this point on.”

Rodriguez’s situation has naturally received a lot of attention over the past week, so he has been cast as the scapegoat in some circles, but he’s pretty far down the list among those responsible for the Yankees’ ALCS loss. One could argue that he’s even less to blame than his replacement Eric Chavez, who was 0-for-8 with four strikeouts during the series and made defensive miscues in both Games 3 and 4. But what fun is that?

As for A-Rod’s future in pinstripes, he said after last night’s game that he has no plans to waive no-trade clause. Meanwhile, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman told Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com earlier today that he has no intention to shop Rodriguez this offseason. Unfortunately, I’m guessing we haven’t heard the last of this story.

  1. dcfan4life - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Ya the blame goes to the Yankees for believing that Arod would be worth $20 million plus in his late 30s and 40s.

    • pjmarn6 - Oct 19, 2012 at 9:02 PM

      You can’t say that since many other players played poorly that is the reason or logic to accept that Rodriguez should, can or be excused for playing poorly. HE is getting the $30,000,000 and HE should be demonstrating why he is getting the big bucks while everyone else is failing.
      The poorly playing star HAS to take up the load as that is what he is paid for. Of course we all know that Rodriguez is a choker, took steroids to fatten his contracts and that YANKEE management should be in a mental hospital for signing Rodriquez to a ridiculous contract through the time when Rodriquez is 42 years old. It is quite evident that the Steinbrenners are trying to cover their ass on losing over $150,000,000 signing Rodriguez to this ridiculous contract. I believe that the sons don’t have the baseball acumen that the father had. They have the silver spoon in their mouths from the moment they were born, shown that the team can win, but never learned how to invest in the players and are completely ignorant how to obtain, cultivate and pay players.

      • dcfan4life - Oct 19, 2012 at 9:59 PM

        The Yankees are worth $1.7 billion. So that means they spent about 1/7 of their worth on this contract. You cant blame anyone else but the Yankees here when discussing the contract. No other team expressed interest in a 10 year deal. No other team offered anything near the $300 million Scott Boras was asking. Then the Yankees swooped in and gave him all 10 years he demanded and $275 million. This isnt the NFL, NBA, or NHL. All MLB contracts are fully guaranteed. Eric Burnes, Bobby Bonilla, these guys are still getting paid and they both been out of baseball for years. The Yankees overpay for certain talent if they fell they must have him, Arod was no exception. Any organization that expected any kind of strong porduction from anyone at this late in ones career deserves to get burned.

  2. j0esixpack - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    I’d say he’s getting 10 years and $250 million worth of blame.

    It didn’t seem to bother him when he got that same amount of credit.

    But I wouldn’t worry Yankees fans… I’m sure he’ll hit his peak from age 37 – 42

    • paperlions - Oct 19, 2012 at 9:03 PM

      Has ARod complained about being blamed? I haven’t seen that.

      Did ARod get the credit he deserved when he put the Yankees on his back in 2009 or when he won each of his MVPs in NY? I don’t think he did.

      • polegojim - Oct 20, 2012 at 8:45 AM

        Paperlions – that’s because in 2009 and each MVP year, he did what he was GETTING PAID a ridiculous amount of money to do in the playoffs, what he SHOULD have done.

        The fact that you can sum up his postseason career in just a couple years makes my point.

        Regular season superstar… post season flop – perennially, with only a couple exceptions.

      • paperlions - Oct 20, 2012 at 10:11 AM

        What a player is paid is completely irrelevant. Based on that argument, Yankee fans shouldn’t like Jeter since he hasn’t been worth what he’s been paid for the vast majority of his career. Yes, he’s a great player, but his lack of power or elite OB ability combined with his bad defense make him far less valuable than his salary has been for the last 12+ years.

  3. mybrunoblog - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Hal Steinbrenner is right. 24 other players failed too. Unfortunately the media is obsesses with this guy.

    • polegojim - Oct 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM

      Why?

      He is getting paid to perform, not just show up.
      He has RARELY shown up for the playoffs, this year is not an exception… it’s the rule.
      He SHOULD carry the team… not just for one or two years, but MOST years.
      I could see having a couple tough playoff years, but not 80%.
      I want to work for Hal, where I’m just about guaranteed to fail when my team needs me most and still get my 25 mil AND be defended.

      Sorry bruno, the guy deserves all the heat.

      • protius - Oct 21, 2012 at 12:43 PM

        Sorry poledancer:

        You don’t know what you’re talking about in general, and you don’t know anything about baseball economics in particular.

        If payroll and team performance have no correlation, then individual salary and player performance have no correlation. Clearly, you know neither the exception, nor the rule.

        Since all knowledgeable baseball fans know that post season play demands that a player not only be resistant to pressure, but also that he be statistically and physically positioned to compete after 162 games. And since you appear to be unaware of these circumstances, then it is fair to assume that you’re not a knowledgeable baseball fan. After reading your claptrap, I don’t think anyone will be surprised by this conclusion.

        What is true for every other business in the world is also true for baseball as well: Paycheck does not equal product!

        You need to get a life!

      • polegojim - Oct 21, 2012 at 11:04 PM

        Way to go Protius… grade school insults to start and finish. Figures.

        Plus the MEAT of your argument proves my point EXACTLY…. and I quote:

        “Since all knowledgeable baseball fans know that post season play demands that a player not only be resistant to pressure, but also that he be statistically and physically positioned to compete after 162 games”

        According to your statement… A-ROD regularly fails to be ‘resistant to pressure’… and fails to be ‘physically positioned’… during most post seasons, and most CERTAINLY the his past three trips… or is it that Miguel Cabrerra and Delmon Young play in a different league???

        PLEEEAAASE… at least make this interesting…. if you’re going to argue a point, don’t prove MINE while you’re at it, and think you accomplished something.

        I enjoy my life just fine thank you… and watching my Tigers in the playoffs, DURING my enjoyable life.

      • protius - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:32 AM

        Poledancer:

        Clearly, reading comprehension is not your forte, because it is obvious that you’re missing the point.

        You wrote: “He is getting paid to perform, not just show up.” I responded with: “If payroll and team performance have no correlation, then individual salary and player performance have no correlation.” To prove my point I explained: “post season play demands that a player not only be resistant to pressure, but also that he be statistically and physically positioned to compete after 162 games.” Logically the converse is true, i.e., if a player is not resistant to pressure and he is not positioned, statistically and physically, to compete after 162 games, then he will not perform well in the post season, regardless of his salary.

        Let me spell it out for you so that it gets through the fat barrier around your brain: There is no correlation between being paid to perform, and performing, i.e., in baseball, salary and production are not related. A-Rod’s failure to perform, and Delmon Young’s ability to perform in the play offs, proves that salary and performance are unrelated. I’m assuming that you’re aware that A-Rod is paid much more than Delmon Young.

        If there is no correlation between salary and performance in baseball, then no one can justify their criticism of A-Rod’s post-season performance. If criticism of A-Rod’s post-season performance is not justifiable, then all your arguments are irrelevant.

        You are continually whining about something that you haven’t thought out too well, i.e., A-Rod’s post season problems. Thus, you are continually making yourself look like an adolescent jerk. If you had any maturity at all, you’d just enjoy the Tiger’s success, but you want to rub their success in Yankee fan’s noses, and because of that behavior, you’re an adolescent jerk off.

        I treat like with like. In your case, grade school insults are appropriate. You behave like a 12 year old kid begging for attention, i.e., using caps, and exaggerated words.

        You need to get an adult life, and start behaving like an adult.

        BTW: Please address this argument: What is true for every other business in the world is also true for baseball as well: Paycheck does not equal product!

      • polegojim - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:33 AM

        Move on man, you’re wrong…

      • protius - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM

        Grow up man. Prove me wrong.

  4. greymares - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    OK then i’ll give him credit for the demise. lol.

    • pjmarn6 - Oct 21, 2012 at 11:37 PM

      Protius since when does paycheck not equal performance???? You write such bullsh*t it is laughable. If you don’t produce in business, you are out on your ass or don’t you know that? If my salesmen don’t meet their quotas, they don’t have a job. If they want bonuses, they sell more. If they are on commission they have to meet their quotas and then on the extra sales they get a commission.
      Show me a baseball player whose contract is not guaranteed! Claptrap???? Hey you invented the word.
      What these professional athletics get is ridiculous and they blow the money as fast as they get it.
      I remember the photo op that Alex Rodriguez had with Warren Buffet. That had as much meaning to professional baseball as Jeter’s five jacuzzi home.

      • protius - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:16 PM

        Marn:

        Baseball players aren’t being paid to meet quotas. Baseball players aren’t being paid to sell door-to-door. Baseball players aren’t being paid on commission. Baseball players aren’t being paid to build houses, or manufacture cars, or micro-wave ovens, etc, etc.

        A good baseball player’s success rate starts at 25% and has gone as high as 40%, but as most baseball fans know, that is very rare. Apparently, you’re not a very good baseball fan, or you would have already known this. In today’s baseball market place, a ball player who hits over .300 is paid millions.

        Now tell us Mr. Big Business Tycoon, how many of your employees do you retain if they are only 25% or 30%? successful at their job? How many of your salesman keep their jobs if they only meet 25% or 30% of their quotas? Clearly, you don’t understand the difference between the business side of baseball, and the performance side of baseball.

        Baseball players contracts are guaranteed, and so are the contracts of every CEO, CFO, CAO, Director of Operations, etc, etc. Didn’t you already know this Mr. Big Business Tycoon?

        My arguments are about salary and performance. If you want to whine about extravagance, then go complain to your wife; I don’t want to hear it.

        Do us both a favor. The next time you want to make a fool of yourself in public, ask someone else to assists you. I really don’t want to have anything to do with a loser who claims he’s a businessman, and thinks that I “invented” the word “claptrap”.
        Are you for real?

  5. husky2score - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    Another Yankees article huh?

    • royalsfaninfargo - Oct 19, 2012 at 8:12 PM

      I mentioned that in another thread. Maybe they should rename it HardballtalkNY.

      • yankeefanincolo - Oct 20, 2012 at 9:25 AM

        husky2score and royalsfaninfargo, there is a simple solution to your concern over “another Yankee article”… DON”T CLICK ON IT!!! You don’t HAVE to read it, but you do because you want to moan and whine about it. The Yankees made the playoffs and collapsed, it’s a big story and there are a lot of fans of the team and of baseball that want to hear about it and/or comment on it. If you don’t find yourself in that group, for crying out loud just pass it up! Then the rest of us won’t have to read your asinine remarks.

    • sparky1002 - Oct 19, 2012 at 9:47 PM

      In case you didn`t know it the Yankees are the most storied franchise in sports history, so you must understand that before you complain of all the Yankee articles. If you want another team to gain that kind of creedence…spend the money first, the Yankees always did.

      • royalsfaninfargo - Oct 19, 2012 at 10:12 PM

        Who cares if they are the most storied franchise in sports history. They are a complete psychodrama that is not interesting at all IMHO.

      • daviddmsvcp - Oct 20, 2012 at 12:15 AM

        Well, you’re half right. They are most definitely interesting.

        Regarding A-Rod, look at his BA for the last four playoff series going back to 2010. He is not a good hitter in the playoffs, at least not anymore.

      • protius - Oct 21, 2012 at 1:08 PM

        Fargo:

        You are a raging mass of steaming, psychological contradictions.

        As Sparky implied, there was no one holding a gun to your narrow little head, demanding that you click on this article. You accessed this commentary because you couldn’t help yourself; you are a psychodrama whore, and this article was your john.

        To you, the Yankees are a penis that you work over for compensation, and your compensation is having something to kvetch about. Well, your time is up for this week.

        The receptionist will have your bill ready for you on your way out.

    • Charles Gates - Oct 20, 2012 at 9:05 AM

      I *cannot* believe that articles are being written about teams that made the playoffs! /faints

  6. willclarkgameface - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    there is a magical cure for all ARod’s worries: B12

  7. shanabartels - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    Please can it be the last of it? I’m already so sick of this crap.

  8. eugenesaxe - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    He deserves all he’s getting and more, dude has only shown up for one post-season since he joined the Yankees. But he isn’t the only reason they flopped this year, not by a long shot.

    • protius - Oct 21, 2012 at 1:22 PM

      You’re just pissed because he’s dating your daughter.

  9. raysfan1 - Oct 19, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    I heard he was spotted on the grassy knoll…

    • mazblast - Oct 19, 2012 at 9:58 PM

      And he was the driver of the car that took Jimmy Hoffa away from that Detroit-area restaurant.

      • daviddmsvcp - Oct 20, 2012 at 12:19 AM

        ha ha

        A-Rod is not that interesting. He’s just a baseball player who used to put up great numbers, but who is just nearing the end of his career, and we are all watching as his skills decline.

        But he’s not the first Yankee to do that. Mantle had about 3 years at the end where his numbers were also not so good. But people loved Mantle. For some reason.

  10. skeleteeth - Oct 19, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    I don’t know, putting in a replacement that’s 0-16 in the post-season makes me think maybe there’s something else going that’s much bigger than the failures of a single over-priced, aging superstar. Lot’s of things happened this year to the 2012 Yankees that made them probably one of the weakest Yankee teams in the post-season that I can remember so no-one should be all that surprised with the outcome.

  11. randygnyc - Oct 19, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Dcfan- most estimates are the Yankees are worth north of $3Billion. They have over $500 million per year in revenue. 6X earnings is moderate.

  12. indaburg - Oct 19, 2012 at 11:26 PM

    Hal Steinbrenner: “…the 37-year-old is getting too much of the blame for the team’s ALCS loss to the Tigers.”

    All fans of baseball outside of the NYC metro area: “Duh.”

    • protius - Oct 21, 2012 at 1:27 PM

      All readers outside of indaburg’s hut: WTF is he babbling about now?

      • indaburg - Oct 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM

        Hut is too generous. More of a shack.

  13. anythingbutyanks - Oct 20, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    He played poorly whether he is a $3M man or a $30M man, but he gets the scrutiny because he is a $30M man. Now, of course, it is really the Yankee’s fault that he is paid that much but why should he have turned it down? Because he knew he wouldn’t be worth it when he’s 40? Yeah, right!

  14. crali - Oct 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Honestly, I blame the organization way more than Alex, they botched this BIG TIME. Yes, it was a bad contract but that’s old news. Who doesn’t think the organization leaked the story about the girl in the stands? Who doesn’t think Alex’s benching didn’t effect Cano – who has idolized ARod forever, Tex who has been his friend since they played together in Texas, Chavez who had to feel the pressure of “replacing” ARod – they made a mess of the clubhouse. If CC felt ARod’s injury was the biggest loss of the season (even w/ Mo going down) that tells me something BIG and important. I get it that Alex wasn’t hitting for power but I would think that the broken hand had something to do with it – especially since he had no rehab at bats.
    No, this mess is on the Yankees. They did this to Jorge last year, leaking Jeter’s contract negotiations, and I could go on and on and on – remember, even Andy Pettitte left because of the way he was treated years ago.

  15. pjmarn6 - Oct 21, 2012 at 7:29 AM

    My salesmen are paid to produce. I can’t stay in business if I don’t have orders for my products. They don’t have guaranteed contracts. They get a percentage of what they sell. If the sales are below a certain quantity, they lose their jobs. It should be the same in baseball. Players don’t produce, they get fired. If some other team is interested in them, they can pick them up, otherwise they are out in the street. And you don’t have to be worried about them being on the bread line. One or two years of these multimillion year contracts and they are set for life.

    • protius - Oct 21, 2012 at 1:19 PM

      Another whiner.

      Can anyone imagine Mickey Mantle getting paid for piece work? How about Buster Posey, or Joe Votto, or Lu Hochevar, et al. Marn, yours is just the most asinine, anti labor baseball proposition I’ve ever read.

      Baseball teams make hundreds of millions of dollars from their players collective performances, and the players shouldn’t be allowed to be compensated for their contributions?

      The player’s union would cut you to pieces with spoons for your caviler attitude.

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