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The Red Sox have asked permission to speak with John Farrell directly

Oct 20, 2012, 12:28 PM EDT

John Farrell; Marvin Hudson AP

We heard last night that the Red Sox were “making progress” in negotiations to acquire John Farrell from the Blue Jays to be their new manager. Barring something unexpected, it looks like a deal will get done.

According to the Associated Press, the Red Sox have asked permission from the Blue Jays to speak to Farrell directly. This would seem to indicate that talks have progressed to the point where the Red Sox want to negotiate a contract with Farrell.

Farrell has one year left on his contract with the Blue Jays, so the Red Sox will have to give up a player or players as part of a trade. While one rival executive told Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com last night that compensation negotiations resembled “a staring contest,” the Blue Jays are prepared to start over following a disappointing 73-89 record this season.

“There’s no question it gets done in my mind,” said one rival executive. “Toronto doesn’t want him there anymore.”

The Blue Jays surely want to get something of value in order to give up their manager to a division rival, but quotes like this one won’t help their leverage.

The Red Sox have interviewed Dodgers third base coach Tim Wallach, Yankees bench coach Tony Pena, Padres special assistant Brad Ausmus and Orioles third base DeMarlo Hale for their vacant managerial position, but Farrell is widely considered the top choice to replace Bobby Valentine. Farrell, 50, previously served as pitching coach with Boston from 2006-2010 under Terry Francona.

  1. theskinsman - Oct 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Can it worse that last season? Hardly seems possible.

    • kiwicricket - Oct 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM

      Why? Was last season worse that?

  2. thebadguyswon - Oct 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Red Sox Ownership and Front Office = MORONS

  3. Old Gator - Oct 20, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Other than their familiarity with Farrell as a former employee, what, precisely, is so attractive to the Beanbags about a guy whose current employer has soured on him (though why they should when that team was the baseball equivalent of MASH last season eludes me)?

    Oh, and just to annoy those dweebs who hate Herman Melville so much (sorry if Twitter didn’t prepare you as adequately to read Moby Dick in your senior year of High School as the lack of it prepared me to read it in the sophomore year of mine), here’s yet another image of the Sage of Pittsfield, demonstrating, again, how much he resembled Brian Wilson: http://www.fold3.com/page/83001863_herman_melville/

    • cur68 - Oct 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM

      Or a young, slightly crazed Da Vinci, but you gotta squint and try to WANT to see Wilson when you look at Leonardo and of course there’s the whole imagining the hat thing. . . so yeah, probably Melville more than Leonardo.

      http://www.paternitytestcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Leonardo_Da_Vinci.jpg

      ANYHOW: The Sox can have Farrell as far as I’m concerned. The Beav need a young, motivated, lead from the front guy. Dave Martinez grows a GREAT beard. I vote for Dave.

      • missthemexpos - Oct 20, 2012 at 4:24 PM

        The Bearded Beaver Leader has a ring to it.

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 20, 2012 at 4:35 PM

        If Farrell is traded, the Jays will probably go with someone with managerial experience such as their bench coach Don Wakamatsu.

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 20, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      There is no evidence that the Blue Jays have soured on Farrell other than stories emanating from leaks from the Boston front office.

      • paperlions - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM

        Then why let him go and have an opening to fill?

        The likelihood that they get a useful player in return is small.

  4. jaysfan64 - Oct 20, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    According to Bob Elliott the friction was fixable…remember Gaston and Gillick had their differences too…don’t think their choice will be Wak – toxicity from Seattle still hanging over his head – maybe another season or 2 for that to subside…think it’ll be Butter, Dave Martinez, or Sandy Alomar…

  5. willclarkgameface - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Trade Pedroia and Lackey to Toronto for Farrell and watch him bring the Red Sox into 3rd place in 2013 and beyond.

  6. j0esixpack - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Pena, Ausmus or Ferrell would all be good candidates… Toronto has very little leverage

  7. jaysfan64 - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    Think the charges leveled by Vizquel, Frasor, Zaun, and others got investigated and found to more or less be true..lack of accountability bothered the brass – the buck stops with Farrell and I think he’s just not what they thought he’d be…hence the “see what we can get for him” approach…only problem now is that this has gotten so much notoriety that Farrell can’t come back here with any credibility, what with everyone knowing his contract here won’t be extended…so if they can’t agree on compensation the Jays will pretty much now be forced to let Farrell sit at home for a season while they pay someone else to manage…not that the $ is an issue cause the Jays’ ownership is among the richest in pro sports but the PR damage done…as well as the hassle of a managerial search while AA has more important things to do…so either way the Red Sox inflict damage on the Jays…

  8. legacybroken - Oct 20, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    Willclarkgameface, you might want to make that Pedroia and Bucholtz for Farrell. The Jays don’t do dumb trades. Rememberthey are the team that suckered the Angels into taking Vernon Wells.

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