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Red Sox getting righty David Carpenter from Blue Jays to complete John Farrell swap

Oct 21, 2012, 2:08 PM EDT

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All the pieces of the puzzle that’ll make John Farrell the next manager of the Red Sox are now in place.

Alex Speier of WEEI.com reports that Boston will receive right-handed reliever David Carpenter along with their new skipper in exchange for middle infielder Mike Aviles. Farrell has already signed a three-year contract with the Sox and will report to Fenway Park this week to be formally introduced.

Carpenter registered an ugly 8.07 ERA and 2.07 WHIP across 32 1/3 innings this season between the Astros and Blue Jays. The 27-year-old former 12th-round pick had a 3.08 ERA, 1.10 WHIP and 25/7 K/BB ratio in 26 1/3 innings at Triple-A.

Aviles, 31, hit .250/.282/.381 with 13 home runs, 14 stolen bases and 60 RBI over 136 games in 2012.

It’s a deal with a fairly clear winner in Toronto, but the Red Sox are willing to chance it that Farrell can become something special. The former Boston pitching coach had a 154-170 record in his two years with the Jays.

  1. danaking - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    How is Toronto the clear winner? They essentially got a past his prime middle infielder with a .683 OPS last year for their manager and a loose end. Since they weren’t about to fire Farrell, it seems the Jays gave him up for not very much.

    • tfbuckfutter - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM

      I agree.

      No one who ends up with Mike Aviles is the “clear winner” of anything.

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM

        Anyone who ends up with Carpenter is a clear loser. He is worse that that turkey Bard whom the Red Sox tried to foist on the Jays.

  2. proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Carpenter was very bad when he pitched for the Jays. As much as I feel sorry for the Red Sox fans, I am pleased that he is not taking up a roster spot on the Jays. Aviles can help the Jays, but Carpenter is very unlikely to help the Red Sox.

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM

      One other comment about the management of the Red Sox: How do they explain this to the 4 people who intervied for the managers job in good faith. How can anyone trust the management of the Red Sox after this?

      • deathmonkey41 - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

        Did you think anyone would after the Terry Francona and Bobby Valentine fiasco’s already?

      • pdowdy83 - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:30 AM

        MLB policy requires a certain number of managerial candidate interviews when there is a vacancy. The Nationals last season had to conduct several interviews even though everyone on the planet knew Davey Johnson was going to be hired.

        For once I do not think this is something you can flat out blame on the management of the Red Sox.

    • purnellmeagrejr - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      Wasn’t Carpenter acquired by the Jays in similar circumstances? i.e. as a throw in? Tough way to go. He can’t even console himselfg with the thought “At least somebody wants me.”

  3. jaysjunkie - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Dude! Isn’t it against the Blue Jay fan “code” to feel sorry for the Red Sox or their fans? ;>)

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM

      You are correct; however, the awesomefranchise did finish last in the AL East. They also have a luxury tax problem, a hole at short stop, a weak starting rotation, no closer, and a so so farm system. It will be difficult for them to climb out of the hole they ended up in last season.

      • bloodysock - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        Where is the luxury tax problem?

        They avoided is last season by shipping the salaries to the Dodgers and only have about $45 million committed for 2013 (though there are tons of holes to still fill).

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:14 PM

        Good point. As a salary dump, that trade worked.

      • pisano - Oct 21, 2012 at 11:53 PM

        proudly…. you forgot, they have one big (drunk) thing going for them, Lackey and his 6+ era will be back next season, who could ask for more?

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 22, 2012 at 6:48 AM

        Lackey and the Red Sox deserve each other. Going forward, the Jays will be leery of any involvement with the Red Sox. The management of team simply can’t be trusted.

  4. paperlions - Oct 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    The fact remains that Boston didn’t give up anything for Farrell and Toronto didn’t get anything useful either. Aviles’ contract is up…so they were going to either let him walk or have to offer him arbitration. He can field, but he’ll be 32 when the 2013 season starts and he can’t hit. He’s a bench player for a good team or a starter for a bad team.

  5. mophatici - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    is it now an annual tradition for the bosox to trade management for relief pitchers with the surname carpenter? last year it was theo for chris carpenter (the lesser known one)

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 7:02 PM

      According to ESPN Boston, the Jays were planning to DFA Carpenter. WEEI.com is reporting that the Red Sox may DFA Carpenter. The Jay’s needed a roster spot when they got Aviles and forced the Red Sox to take Carpenter.

    • thehollar - Oct 21, 2012 at 8:24 PM

      Does Karen Carpenter pitch? She could be the big acquisition next year.

    • Francisco (FC) - Oct 21, 2012 at 8:47 PM

      is it now an annual tradition for the bosox to trade management for relief pitchers with the surname carpenter?

      Well, they ARE rebuilding. Carpenters are good at building stuff right?

  6. hojo20 - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    A trade of garbage for garbage.

  7. husky2score - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Who is David Carpenter?????

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM

      For now, he is the newest member of the Red Sox. He might not be a member of the Red Sox for very long.

  8. passerby23 - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    Doesn’t seem like either team is particularly concerned with what they are giving up. The Jays are happy to let Carpenter go and Farrell walk. They will probably cut Aviles. The Red Sox get Farrell who they liked and ditch Aviles. I don’t really see a clear winner or loser here.

  9. bozosforall - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    BOTH teams SUCK. The only difference is that the Red Sox fans also suck.

  10. richwizl - Oct 22, 2012 at 6:37 AM

    Mike Aviles is a very good player in my opinion and Farrell is an unproven Mngr. Carpenter also looks to be a restoration project. As a Sox fan, I’m not real excited about this deal.

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 22, 2012 at 7:31 AM

      A reasonable argument. The majority of Red Sox fans are reasonable people. As a Jays fan, I want to remind both Farrell and the Red Sox management that they should be careful about what they wish for. This thing could blow up in their face. Based on what I have seen, the Red Sox are not run by honourable people. The leaks and made up stories that appeared in the Boston media was disgusting.

      • richwizl - Oct 22, 2012 at 9:13 AM

        The media hounds in Boston are a bunch of pot-stirring jock-sniffs. They take all the fun out of the games.

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