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Report: Tim Lincecum will be on the block this offseason

Oct 21, 2012, 3:13 PM EDT

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Tim Lincecum posted a rough 5.18 ERA in 186 innings this season and is owed $22 million in 2013. So the Giants may do something that would have been considered unthinkable seven months ago.

Here’s Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe:

Tim Lincecum, RHP, Giants — He will be available in trade, and it will be interesting to see who bites on the two-time Cy Young winner. The Giants insist his problems this season were strictly mechanical, but opposing teams wonder why his usual 96-mile-per-hour fastball was around 92 most of the season.

The Giants would surely have to eat more than half of Lincecum’s remaining salary to get a trade done, but that might be worth it if they are convinced that he won’t bounce back. The 28-year-old was shelled for four earned runs on six hits and three walks in his NLCS Game 4 start against the Cardinals on Thursday night.

Lincecum is scheduled to become a free agent for the first time in his career after the 2013 season.

  1. fat4jc - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Lincecum hasn’t thrown 96mph in a good 3 years….

    • paperlions - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM

      …and he’s never had a FB vel that averaged 95 mph or faster. His top FB velocity was a bit over 94 mph a few years ago. He problem seems to be with location and movement more than velocity.

  2. nickmiller63 - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    What does Cafardo from Boston know? Who are his sources? I wouldn’t be surprised, nor would I mind, if Lincecum is on the block. But this is speculation, right?

    • hockeyflow33 - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM

      Yes, he constantly makes things up and quotes them to anonymous sources. He’s one of the numerous overweight blowhards we’re blessed to have here in Boston.

      • sailcat54 - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:51 PM

        Lincecum’s problems are mechanical and with work he will probably bounce back. Furthermore, the Giants have shown no interest in getting rid of him. The East Coast press treats West Coast teams as though they are from another country…in another continent. Their information is usually highly inaccurate and largely speculative. Ignore Cafardo.

      • Brian Donohue - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:20 PM

        …which ties in with my question: why is this being discussed now of all times in SF (if it truly is being discussed)??? I mean WTF, they’re trying to win a pennant. Hard to believe, and it would make me suspect the writer and/or his anonymous sources. But none of that matters anymore in today’s media universe, which is governed by a single principle: mo hyperventilation mo bettah

      • critter69 - Oct 22, 2012 at 6:55 AM


        It’s a lot like politics – the media always wants a horse race, so they push the story that is most beneficial to creating a horse race. The reason is to get the attention of the low-information person, and get them to pay attention to the network, newspaper, magazine, etc. The more eyeballs looking, the higher the ad rate.

    • purnellmeagrejr - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM

      You’re speculating.

  3. xmatt0926x - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Is there anyone who has watched him for the past several years who hasn’t just been waiting for his inevitable arm or shoulder injury? Here’s a guy with crazy stuff and a crazy delivery. It would almost be a miracle to get through his career without some major issue cropping up.

  4. claymatthewshairplugs - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    It’d be unfortunate if Lincecum were gone after what he did for the team in the 2010 WS run but Lincecum is clearly diminished. His command has been terrible, couple with his lack of velocity that pretty much means hes on the downside. Sad to say because he is young but it may be time to change things up.

  5. brenenostler - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Cubs, are you listening?!?!

  6. shanabartels - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    96mph? Is he talking about some other guy named Tim Lincecum?

    • sailcat54 - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      The source is a “reporter” from Boston. In the Boston reporter’s universe, reality comes to a screeching halt somewhere in the vicinity of Worcester. Any further West of that and he just makes up his news to fit his insane fantasies.

      • shanabartels - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM

        Valid point. There is one exception to the Boston media rule, though. If you want to read stuff about the Red Sox written by someone who actually isn’t nuts, go for Tim Britton of the Providence Journal. He’s great. I’m also completely biased because he’s a good friend of mine, but I promise you he’s the only level-headed, intelligent, non-inflammatory baseball writer in that godforsaken town.

      • sailcat54 - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:04 PM

        I’ll take your word for it, shanabartels. I’ve never read any of Tim’s work, but unfortunately his stuff is not the nonsense that makes it to the West Coast. Hopefully, he is as reasonable as you make him out to be.

  7. illadelphiasphinest - Oct 21, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    Boston, LA Dodgers, Rangers, Baltimore, Toronto, New York Yankees.
    Possible landing spots…?

    • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM

      Toronto would probably pass even though they need starting pitching. NYY would be interesting. He would have to get a haircut.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:33 PM

        If they eat half of his salary, as speculated, I could see the Jays kicking the tires to see what the asking price is. Beaston and Anthopolous have said that they’ve got money to spend this offseason and they desperately need major league starters.

        There’s NO way the Giants would trade him to the Dodgers unless they’re sure that he’s broken and will never get it back.

    • suhisabeast90 - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:50 AM

      I think you really have to look at Detroit here. It makes sense to Trade some of their pieces for him. Say Fister and Benoit or Dirks. They would fit nice in San Fran. Lincecum in a #3 or #4 spot may help him regain his control. Not to mention all the run support and an excellent pitching coach.

  8. biasedhomer - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Lincecum for Arod + $60M in cash

  9. libertynchurch - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    Uses a lot of contortions in his motion. A good coach and trainer can fix his problems. Plenty of teams will take that gamble.

  10. shanabartels - Oct 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    I don’t like to make too much of rumors like this when they’re purely speculation — there’s no point in (over)reacting when nothing has been put in motion yet — but quite apart from the fact that it would make me sad to see Tim Lincecum wearing any other uniform, this just doesn’t make any sense to me.

    Brian Sabean isn’t really stupid enough to trade Timmy when his trade value is down, right? I mean, obviously trades happen when guys’ value is down all the time — Heath Bell just got traded yesterday. To cite another example, consider that the Yankees traded AJ Burnett to the Pirates for a proverbial bag of peanuts (my apologies to those two prospects whose names I don’t remember but yeah) and ate millions of dollars just because they don’t want to look at his damn face anymore and watch him dig his team into a hole most every time he pitches. In that case, the Pirates lucked out because Burnett had a much better year than anyone could have anticipated; meanwhile, the prospects the Yankees got will probably never amount to anything, but I really didn’t want to look at AJ’s damn face anymore either. He became so frustrating that it was probably worth eating millions of dollars just to make him go away.

    But I just don’t see Lincecum as being that kind of case. It would be stupid to potentially pay him millions of dollars to pitch for someone else and not even care that whatever the Giants get in return won’t be worth half of what Timmy’s value after a good year would be. I knew as soon as Bumgarner and Cain got big extensions that they probably couldn’t keep everyone long-term and that I would have to make peace with that at some point. But I sure hope Sabean doesn’t do anything impulsive when his team really doesn’t have enough starting pitching depth to make this work.

  11. proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    If the story came from the Boston Globe, I would not be surprised if the Red Sox are interested. The Red Sox leak all over the place.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:35 PM

      Judging by the way the Red Sox handled Farrell I wouldn’t be shocked if they’re actually talking directly to Lincecum now.

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:35 PM

        Back channels only.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:52 PM

      They don’t seem too concerned about tampering after all they’ve been doing it with Farrell for a year now.

      • proudlycanadian - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:55 PM

        I will let you in on a secret. Bud bends over for the Red Sox owner.

  12. bloodysock - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Lincecum made $18 million this season (2012) and is due $22 million for 2013.

  13. serbingood - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    Yankees calling on line 1.
    A-Rod on call waiting.

  14. skerney - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    Justin Verlander was bad in 2008, Cole Hamels was bad in 2009, Tim Lincecum was bad this season. For an organization that built itself on pitching and offered Lincecum a multiyear deal last offseason it is hard to imagine the Giants giving up on him after one bad year.

    • illadelphiasphinest - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:42 PM

      Neither Verlander or Hamels were as bad as Lincecum this season. And neither had a loss of control, movement, and velocity like Lincecum experienced this season. That beeing said yes he had a down year. And yes someone most definatly roll the dice on him.

  15. twinabby - Oct 21, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    I agree that I can’t imagine Lincecum wearing different uniform, it’s just not right. This is what I don’t like about baseball, when you do something great you are the superstar but if you did something wrong,,, sorry,, you’ll be traded,, Duuuh??? These players are Humans,, not robots that they can just programmed whatever you want them to do, they have feelings too, i know they are talking about big bucks here but these things happen. These players may have accomplished a lot in their careers at a young age but they have their downs too, which is normal and very human. I know this is not 2010, it’s 2012, it’s different but we have to think about what he had done in the past, that 2010 World Series title wouldn’t be Giants if not for Lincecum, that NLDS champ title wouldn’t be theirs if he didn’t help out effectively in the bullpen. He is TIm
    Lincecum, he’s human, he makes mistakes, and when you’re at the bottom the only way to go is to go up,, which he will be soon, he’ll be back in his game, just like Barry Zito in game. 5 on the NLCS,, I still believe in “THE FREAK”, so watch out.

  16. willclarkgameface - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    The Red Sox, as they have historically done, will bring Lincecum in and THINK (and believe) he is in top form just as they did with John Burkett, Bret Saberhagen, and David Cone.

  17. raysfan1 - Oct 21, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Actual question–how often does a starter go a whole season with a 5.00 or worse but also have a K/BB ratio of 3.0 or better?

  18. jonirocit - Oct 21, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Bullshit report trying to stir up crap probly trying to cause a distraction .

  19. shaggylocks - Oct 21, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    “Tim Lincecum posted a rough 5.18 ERA in 186 innings this season and is owed $22 million in 2012.”

    Woah, they still haven’t paid him?!?!?

  20. Marty - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    I can’t picture Timmy doing great things in another city. If he’s going to be fixed, it’s going to be in San Francisco.

  21. Old Gator - Oct 21, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    This is what they get for taking his weed away. I would have lost velocity on my pickup lines at his age too if I had suddenly lost the ability to ask a chick if she wanted to go get high.

  22. opshuns - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:26 AM

    Silva are you a Cards fan or a Tigers fan???? Kind of you to try and start dissension…

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