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Matt Holliday unlikely for Game 7

Oct 22, 2012, 9:37 AM EDT

Bad news for RedBird Nation or whatever the heck you Cardinal people call it:


If the Cardinals are trying to get bonus points for difficulty, they’re going about it the right way.

  1. number42is1 - Oct 22, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Hey Craig….. so do you have to root for the Tigers due to the Lady factor?

    • Craig Calcaterra - Oct 22, 2012 at 9:53 AM

      Nope. If anything I troll her about Tigers crap all the time.

      • number42is1 - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:37 AM

        For a moment i forgot who i was asking…

  2. levistahl - Oct 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Last night offered one of the best examples I’ve seen yet of how underrated Holliday is as a player: I don’t think I saw a single shot of him during the game, or heard more than a mention of him after the opening lineups were announced.

    One of the best hitters in the league, the best on his team, unexpectedly taken out of a suddenly struggling offense–seems like tailor-made for the usual Fox overkill. But they barely registered his absence.

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:08 AM

      I couldn’t help but notice that as well Levi. I do recall seeing one shot of him in the dugout…I think.

    • polegojim - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:36 AM

      Not good… but at least he’s better than A-Rod’s postseason history…

      But… a tight back??? I mean… it took a broken ankle to drive Jeter out… I don’t see a ‘nagging’ injury taking out a supposed ‘SuperStar’. Wouldn’t you take a pain pill to help your team during their FINAL 2012 opportunity to make it to the World Series?

      Seems VERY lame.

      • Alex K - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:57 PM

        Have you ever had back problems? It’s debilitating.

        The act of swinging a bat is a huge torque on your back, also.

      • polegojim - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        Yep, chronic, every day…

        I also know that if my team is playing for the World Series… I’d take the muscle relaxers, ibuprofen, Vicodin… whatever… and work through it, just like MANY other players are doing right now… and which it appears he’s actually going to do.

        Good for him – made the right decision.

        He’ll have all freaking winter to rest up/heal up.

      • Alex K - Oct 22, 2012 at 5:23 PM

        I assume you don’t have to swing a bat really hard to be effective at your job, however. Also, you don’t know where or how severe the stiffness/soreness are. I’m sure he’s played in tons of pain before, and will again.

        All in all I am saying that it’s not your place to label someone’s reason for not playing as lame.

      • polegojim - Oct 23, 2012 at 12:55 AM

        PS – Alex, anyway… my point is proven by his own actions.

        He played… and got a hit. I slightly tip my hat to him for doing what he SHOULD have done in the situation.

      • polegojim - Oct 23, 2012 at 12:47 AM

        C’Mon Alex… how many different ways can you try to slant a Namby Pamby Land excuse?

        Tight back… seriously? For the WORLD SERIES race, he better be on a stretcher on the way to the hospital, like Jeter…

        It actually is completely my place… when the same player, pulls the same lame excuse, during multiple years of the WORLD SERIES playoff race. It’s not his first ‘DIVE’.

        Good news… now he’s got PLENTY of time to rest up that tight back… right next to A-Rod.

  3. stex52 - Oct 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    As you say, that just makes it that much harder for them. But, as we all know, in a single game anything can happen. With the quality of the pitching from both sides, this one will probably go on one or two breaks.

    But who knows? Could be a blowout for either side. I hate predicting single games based on anything.

  4. shynessismyelguapo - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    I love me some Matt Holliday, but he hasn’t done much for the Cardinals in the postseason in his career. This is the 2nd straight Game 7 he missed, and is hitting .260 with 2 home runs in 96 ABs as a Cardinal.

    • polegojim - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:37 AM

      Again, I’m finding it sadly lame… C’MON man.

    • suicidesqueeze91361 - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:20 PM

      At least the neanderthal didn’t break his pinky this year sliding head first into third??….

      Bad news is…..he’s available to make a season ending error in left field with the leather.

      Matheny, you poor bast@rd

  5. nopresses71 - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    “whatever the heck we Cardinal people call (ourselves)”? I believe that would still be ‘defending World Series Champs’ until the results say otherwise. Yup, Holliday probably out. Cain and Posey are due. Team offense currently in the tank. Most unearned runs in postseason history. Home team has won 13 of 14 times in this series when winning Game 6 in their home ball park. We don’t stand much of a chance.

    But when there are 2 outs and 2 strikes in the top of the 9th and Cards are behind, I would highly recommend you get the wooden stake out and drive it hard through our heart. I believe Yogi said it best……….and “it ain’t….”

    Oh……and that 14th time when the visitors actually beat the stats and won? 2006. Carlos Beltran at the plate watching a called third strike…….from Cards closer Adam Wainright.

  6. stlouis1baseball - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Outstanding! Wonderful! Great News! This really helps! How exciting!
    Here’s one person hoping for a rainout tonight. Don’t even start the game. Postponed until tomorrow.
    Who’s with me?

    • historiophiliac - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM

      No, Woodpecker. Rage!

  7. saints97 - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Nobody said it wasn’t going to be semi-tough.

    • stlouis1baseball - Oct 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM

      Yeah really. Half-tough. Tough…but not really. Just a little tough. Semi-tough…if you will. Hahaha!
      I am thinking it’s full fledged…real deal…100% brutal.

  8. suicidesqueeze91361 - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    The Cardinals will win for sure now.

    Having one of the WORST gloves in the history of the game riding pine is a GOOD thing for St. Louis.

    Holliday is an absolute disaster with the leather. The Cards know this and are using the “ailing back” as an excuse to get him off the field.

    And let’s be honest, aren’t we all a bit tired of looking at this neanderthal anyways?

    • shynessismyelguapo - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM


      For his career, according to virtually any metric you want to use, Matt Holliday is actually a pretty decent defensive left fielder. I mean, he’s no Willie Mays or anything, but he is awfully far cry from “worst glove in the history of the game”. A better description would be “better than the average left fielder”.

      Sure, sometimes he looks ugly on a play and has made a couple of very high profile errors, but +/-, UZR, Fielding Runs, etc all agree…Holliday has been a pretty good left fielder

      • suicidesqueeze91361 - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:32 PM


        Being a Dodger fan, I remember one of the most horrendous errors he made running up on a short fly ball which helped jettison my Dodgers into the NLCS a few years back.

        Then last year, his horrible left field play continued until he broke his pinkie and was forced to sit out. The Cardinals won easily while “DERTHAL” rode the pine, void of his stellar left field play (cough COUGH!!)

        But truth be known, I was just kidding and was trying to solicit a response, so thanks for obliging and playing along. I am seriously pulling for the Cards to beat the Giants tonight and play the Tigers in the World Series who is waiting to DESTROY either that makes it.

        I am a bit surprised about one thing. Your response was due to my comments on his leather, not the “neanderthal” comment which is what I thought would illicit the response. I guess that means you agree with my summation on that regard?… (lmao!)

      • stlouis1baseball - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM

        Absolutely Elquapo. People seem to totally gloss over the absolute fact that just about EVERY Leftfielder in MLB is in left field precisely because they are the teams worst Outfielder.
        Major League Baseball Leftfielder = Little League Rightfielder.
        Sort of anyway. Hahaha!

  9. umrguy42 - Oct 22, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Craig, it’s “Cardinal Nation” (the one, the only). Learn it, live it, love it, and at the very least, don’t you forget it.

    • suicidesqueeze91361 - Oct 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM

      …..unless the neanderthal left fielder makes an error to end their season….then you can forget it. :op

      • umrguy42 - Oct 22, 2012 at 3:38 PM

        No, Cardinal Nation is Cardinal Nation. That’s what’s not to forget.

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