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Bobby Valentine: David Ortiz quit on the Red Sox

Oct 23, 2012, 7:16 PM EDT

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Speaking on tonight’s episode of Costas Tonight (10 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network), Bobby Valentine is dishing out the blame for the fall of the 2012 Red Sox, starting with himself but that moving right along to none other than Big Papi:

David Ortiz came back after spending about six weeks on the disabled list and we thought it was only going to be a week. He got two hits the first two times up, drove in a couple runs; we were off to the races. Then he realized that this trade meant that we’re not going to run this race and we’re not even going to finish the race properly and he decided not to play anymore. I think at that time it was all downhill from there.

Downhill from there? Because things were going so well for a 60-66 team before Ortiz went back on the disabled list?

Ortiz, who was playing with an Achilles’ tendon known to be less than 100 percent, pretty clearly hurt himself running out a double in his one game back on Aug. 24. It’s possible he was just trying to buy more time for Ben Roethlisberger, but if so, he’s a pretty good actor.

Valentine also has something to say about the coaches he accused of stabbing him in the back, hearkening back to some tips he got from former Cowboys coach Tom Landry back when he was starting out with the Rangers:

He grabbed his hat and said, ‘I have some professional advice.’ And I said, ‘Please, Coach, anything.’ He said, ‘Make sure your coaches speak your language.’ Here I am a grey-haired guy and 25 years of managing later, I should have heeded that advice and made sure that the coaches were going to be the guys that were my guys. You know what coaches are? They’re your communication line. Your attitude filters down to the players through the coaches and their attitudes, their questions, their kinds of stress filters up through the coaches. I think we had some snags, the lines weren’t flowing the way they should have.

There’s a whole lot more where this comes from in an interview airing tonight on Costas Tonight at 10 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network.

  1. psousa1 - Oct 24, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    I actually thought Valentine was going to be the antidote for that team that just got fat and content with themselves. You saw how he brought the most mismanged organization in baseball (at that time) Texas to a second place finish and how he won a pennant with the Mets with not a lot of star power. He just became unraveled. Everyone got exposed in this – players, management and Valentine.

    Ortiz should not have been playing. It isn’t like this was a hamstring. All you have to do is look at Ryan Howard.

  2. bougin89 - Oct 24, 2012 at 9:47 AM

    Bobby V. Just. Doesn’t. Get. It.

  3. mikeyarch53 - Oct 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Some one please explain the Big Ben reference? Tell it to me like I’m a 2 year old because that one was wayyyyy over my head… (Sorry, I just had surgery and I think the meds are getting to me) … Ill wait here for someone to help!!

    • mrstpaul - Oct 24, 2012 at 3:22 PM

      It’s a reference to last week’s Steelers/Bengals game:

      “Midway through the fourth, with the Steelers up a score and on the edge of field goal range, Ben Roethlisberger was sacked. He was banged up, and slow getting back to the huddle, and the Steelers found themselves with a choice—burn a timeout, or take a delay of game penalty. WR Emmanuel Sanders took a third path: He crumpled to the ground like he had been shot.

      Rolling around in pain, then limping off the field, it appeared that Sanders had suffered a cramp. You can’t prove or disprove a cramp just by looking at someone—but Sanders didn’t have a cramp. He was merely the latest to carry on with one of football’s oldest traditions: the fake injury.”

  4. captn58crunch - Oct 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    This is going to be a lightning rod for all of New England and Red Sox Nation. Sox are beginning talks with Ortiz on a contract and this guy comes out with this? Wow!
    I will give him some slack on his coaches. They probably are the connection between the manager and the players and if one or more were backstabbing V and lying about him to players, then that is a problem. I am waiting for V to say whether he truly had any say in who his coaches were to be. That is crucial as to whether he has any credibility here.

    • bosoxfan1950 - Oct 26, 2012 at 5:17 PM

      Please! Do you know how you can tell when Valentine is lying? If his lips are moving and words can be heard, he’s lying. “Vitriolic Verbal Vomit Valentine” says whatever comes to his alleged mind. He speaks with no regard for the truth or accuracy of his comments. He simply wants to be the center of attention. Like a 4-year-old he craves the lime light. And, like a 4-year-old, Valentine denies any accountability or responsibility for his actions or his comments. “I didn’t do that!” “It wasn’t me!”
      So, don’t buy into anything he says about anything, particularly his coaches. Okay, so he didn’t get to pick his own coaches. Lucchino foisted these guys on Valentine and the rest is history. I wouldn’t believe Valentine no matter what he said. Just a word to the wise. The coaches are not the cause of Valentine’s woes. Valentine is the cause. He is the culprit.

  5. schmedley69 - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    That Landry story sounds like BS, but we’re talking about a guy who claims that he invented the sandwich wrap, so he’s shoveling BS just about every time he opens his mouth to begin with.

  6. tonyz6060chevy - Oct 24, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    As amusing as it is to hear Bobby Valentine point fingers at certain individuals and situations,the blame falls squarely on the Red Sox front office. they were too quick to pull the trigger on letting Terry Francona go in the first place, and what goes on in the club house is not any different than anything that goes on in any other club house in MLB. A late season collapse could happen to any team ,it’s happened to the Dodgers on several occasions,In Brooklyn and L.A. we all witnessed what happened to the Yankees,for some odd reason teams go through a collective hitting slump.It’s too bad the RED SOX upper management started running around like Chicken Little ,and aired their dirty laundry in the press,instead of sorting through their problems rationally, if they would have done that ,this Bobby Valentine chapter would have never have never taken place!Hey they could have kept Francona and paid $100,000 to the McCourts Boston based Rasputin, to channel positive thoughts to the Red Sox line up.

  7. dgmorris1963 - Oct 24, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Valentine is just another manager or coach who thinks he invented the game, and is smarter than everyone.

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