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Bobby Valentine: David Ortiz quit on the Red Sox

Oct 23, 2012, 7:16 PM EDT

Bobby Valentine AP

Speaking on tonight’s episode of Costas Tonight (10 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network), Bobby Valentine is dishing out the blame for the fall of the 2012 Red Sox, starting with himself but that moving right along to none other than Big Papi:

David Ortiz came back after spending about six weeks on the disabled list and we thought it was only going to be a week. He got two hits the first two times up, drove in a couple runs; we were off to the races. Then he realized that this trade meant that we’re not going to run this race and we’re not even going to finish the race properly and he decided not to play anymore. I think at that time it was all downhill from there.

Downhill from there? Because things were going so well for a 60-66 team before Ortiz went back on the disabled list?

Ortiz, who was playing with an Achilles’ tendon known to be less than 100 percent, pretty clearly hurt himself running out a double in his one game back on Aug. 24. It’s possible he was just trying to buy more time for Ben Roethlisberger, but if so, he’s a pretty good actor.

Valentine also has something to say about the coaches he accused of stabbing him in the back, hearkening back to some tips he got from former Cowboys coach Tom Landry back when he was starting out with the Rangers:

He grabbed his hat and said, ‘I have some professional advice.’ And I said, ‘Please, Coach, anything.’ He said, ‘Make sure your coaches speak your language.’ Here I am a grey-haired guy and 25 years of managing later, I should have heeded that advice and made sure that the coaches were going to be the guys that were my guys. You know what coaches are? They’re your communication line. Your attitude filters down to the players through the coaches and their attitudes, their questions, their kinds of stress filters up through the coaches. I think we had some snags, the lines weren’t flowing the way they should have.

There’s a whole lot more where this comes from in an interview airing tonight on Costas Tonight at 10 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network.

  1. flavadave10 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    The Red Sox should take a break from all this chaos and controversy by firing John Farrell and hiring Ozzie Guillen.

    • dcfan4life - Oct 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM

      I think you meant Bobby V should take a break from all this chaos and controversy and not talk to anyone with a mic for like, ever.

  2. cur68 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Blame Ortiz for quitting, eh? Oh well THAT’LL win BV some friends. Oy vey. Last big slugger who played with a sore achilles like that, so sore he had trouble running, was Ryan Howard. We all know how that injury finished up. But hey! Ortiz should have stayed out there till he ruptured it, right? Even French Tourists can’t stand Valentine and I don’t blame them. He’ll run over anyone to paint things in his favour.

    • 18thstreet - Oct 23, 2012 at 8:12 PM

      I’d like to agree with this, but I don’t get the French Tourists reference.

      • cur68 - Oct 23, 2012 at 8:17 PM

        Hmmm…my sarcasm/irony detector isn’t tingling…hasn’t worked right since the Trudeau administration in any case…also no sign of my patented Irony Font™ (seriously: for $69.69 I can send you my new, improved Irony Font™; never agin be misunderstood, etc, etc). I must conclude you are serious 18th. Hence:

        http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/03/great-moments-in-metaphors-bobby-valentine-crashes-his-bike-while-texting-dustin-pedroia/

        How did you miss that?

    • The Rabbit - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:00 PM

      Hey cur,
      You realize after Valentine’s comment I’m going to call jonny5 and ask him to order a voodoo doll. You know he has the best sources. After Jon’s done, BV will never be heard from again. (We should only be that lucky!)

      • cur68 - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:41 PM

        Hey! No voodoo! But….I suppose if you’re going to use it on Valentine…ok.

      • stex52 - Oct 24, 2012 at 8:33 AM

        Lance Berkman and BV seem to be in a race to see who will never work in the MLB again.

    • redpalaceskyeaglebullbluesox - Oct 24, 2012 at 9:35 AM

      Let’s see, if Booby is speaking the truth then the Red Sox medical staff is lying. Excuse me but I have to sneeze, ah, ah ah, ah bullflop!

  3. rcquinn1972 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    How did this idiot get hired in the first place? Un-friggin-believable, he will NEVER manage again on any level other than little league.

    • tommyshih - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM

      Who’s going to let him near the children?

  4. pinkfloydprism - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    This is going to be a reverse Terry Francona… I can see it coming.

    • Glenn - Oct 23, 2012 at 10:37 PM

      Reverse Terry Francona – worst sexual position ever.

      • pinkfloydprism - Oct 24, 2012 at 1:32 PM

        LOL! Bad mental image, but good comment.

  5. natslady - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    Remind me who got fired and who got a shiny brand-new contract?

  6. husky2score - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Bobby Valentine just really needs to shut up about Boston. He has dug a deep enough hole and is only making it bigger with his comments.

    • paperlions - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:41 PM

      Gotta disagree. I don’t think that hole is deep enough yet….I’m pretty curious to see exactly how deep he can make it.

      • badintent - Oct 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

        The Hole Bobby digging is Boston’s Big Hole (Tunnel ) But no one can dig a hole for all the holes in Boston.Or as Jon Lennon said “How many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall. ” It took over 30 years until Rod Stewart was Formally invited to preform there for the Blue bloods . Pathetic Brit twit sh*t.

      • pellypell - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:56 PM

        Hole what? Huh? Meth is a helluva drug.

  7. beantownfanatic2012 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    He sounds like Ray Allen! Not manning up and taking blame but yet blaming everyone else!

  8. drewsylvania - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Lucchino-planted story, with Ortiz as the mouthpiece.

    • 18thstreet - Oct 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM

      Um, what? This would be Bobby Valentine’s story.

      I’m genuinely confused that Drew is talking about.

  9. brazcubas - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Hah! Took me way too long to get that Ben Roethlisberger reference.

    Well, since the bridges were burnt long ago, seems Bobby decided he’d raze the countryside and maybe salt the earth while he’s at it. Guess the guy has no illusions about future MLB employment.

    ESPN, on the other hand may be able to find a spot for him in one of their shout-athons.

  10. dcbear90 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Every time I think about the year that Bobby Valentine was the Red Sox manager, all I can think about is why in the hell they hired him in the first place.

  11. skeleteeth - Oct 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    In the immortal words of Dennis Eckersley, fuck him.

  12. brewcrewfan54 - Oct 23, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    He probably was never going to get another job managing anyways after the way this season went but he’s making sure he slams the door shut himself.

  13. Brian Donohue - Oct 23, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    God, this guy’s getting air time, and there will be plenty more. Then the book contract and the 7 figure advance.

    A 21st century Principle of Ambition: if you want to succeed in America, be sure to fail as spectacularly, as publicly, as immensely, as you can possibly fail. You will then have everything you could want, and more.

  14. tr5079 - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    He and Skip Bayless need to get together and do a show. Oh wait, that’s already been done…..Dumb and Dumber

    • brewcrewfan54 - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM

      Dumb and Dumber is a quality comedy flick that I personally never moss when it comes on tv. Bayless and Valentine have never done anything with quality. Comparing is just plain mean.

  15. pisano - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Bobby, don’t make yourself look any worse, just go away.

    • aceshigh11 - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:54 PM

      Bingo. This guy is a train-wreck of epic proportions.

      He doesn’t burn bridges…he napalms them.

      • mazblast - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:12 AM

        I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Reminds me of…victory.

  16. j0esixpack - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    From this Red Sox fan’s perspective, smart move on Ortiz’s part. Why push yourself as an aging veteran to come back during a lost season?

    Much better to shut it down and heal for 2013. A few trades and free agent pickups and the Sox are right back in the mix thanks in large part to the trade with the Dodgers that was like manna from heaven.

    If Bobby V can’t see the logic in that then he has no place as a commentator, let alone as a manager.

  17. rcali - Oct 23, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    Sox GM still hasn’t got the message that there is no need for a manager if the players are running the show. Get out the chicken and Beers!

  18. thebadguyswon - Oct 23, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Napalm away Bobby!!

    Serves Boston right. Screw them.

  19. ezwriter69 - Oct 23, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    He’s still the same gutless lying back-stabbing little weasel we all remember hiding in the Mets dugout with a fake porn stache… what a totally pathetic little loser this hateful little brat is. Sneering condescending contemptuous… FAILURE.

    • mazblast - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM

      ez, I detect some repression here. Please, tell the group how you REALLY feel.

      And BTW, that wasn’t a “fake porn stache” he wore in the Mets dugout, it was a a Groucho outfit, glasses, eyebrows, nose, and stache.

  20. xpensivewinos - Oct 23, 2012 at 11:10 PM

    As big of a passive-aggressive schmuck as Valentine is, it took an even bigger one (Lucchino) to hire him.

    The really weird part is, this is the same goofy, nonsensical stuff he was saying all year long even before the Youkilis comment. He must think he’s still the manager……….

    • mazblast - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:19 AM

      Lucchino forced the hire. It was possibly the worst hiring decision made in Boston in decades, possibly rivaled only by Almighty, All-Knowing Theo signing John Lackey and Carl Crawford.

      And yet, nothing happened to Lucchino. He seems to be as firmly entrenched as any lying, back-stabbing corporate weasel.

      Sometimes life just isn’t fair.

  21. xjokerz - Oct 24, 2012 at 5:38 AM

    i mean it is David Ortiz.. not exactly the gold model for an individual…….

  22. mungman69 - Oct 24, 2012 at 5:40 AM

    Tom Lamdry and the Rangers? I still don’t get the Rothlinsberger.

  23. legacybroken - Oct 24, 2012 at 7:36 AM

    The rats inside Boston have pretty much admitted that Crawford and Lackey were Lucchino signings to provide high priced stars to flog NESN and keep Fenway jammed pack.

    • psousa1 - Oct 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM

      No it wasn’t. After the Crawford signing that spring training Epstein was on WEEI in Boston speaking about how he had to make a case to ownership as to why they needed to sign Carl Crawford.

      Of course when Crawford spit the bit Epstein, as he does, backtracked and said “it’s not all my fault

      • mazblast - Oct 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM

        It is Known Fact that Theo has never been wrong, and that the entire success of the Red Sox organization during his tenure was his doing and his doing alone. Even the players acquired/signed before he got there are his doing–well, at least the ones who were successful. Any failures were strictly Duquette’s.

        Based on this Received Wisdom, if Crawford and Lackey were not successful signings, logic says they must not have been His signings.

  24. ndrocks2 - Oct 24, 2012 at 8:33 AM

    Give me a break Valentine, Red Sox management quit on The Nation the day they hired YOU!!!

  25. steelerdynasty2010 - Oct 24, 2012 at 8:39 AM

    well this outta get him another job…and quickly

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