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Tigers favored over Giants in World Series

Oct 23, 2012, 12:48 PM EDT

180 sign

San Francisco won six more games than Detroit during the regular season, but the Tigers are sizable favorites over the Giants in the World Series.

Bovada has Detroit as -180 favorites, which means you’d have to risk $180 to win $100 on the Tigers and means they’d have to win the series 65 percent of the time for that bet to be profitable.

Fresh off a dominant sweep of the Yankees and with a fully rested Justin Verlander matched up against Barry Zito in Game 1 it’s definitely not surprising that the Tigers are favored–Lance Berkman agrees, for instance–but -180 is maybe a little surprising considering the Giants have homefield advantage.

I’ll keep an eye on the betting line to see if it moves strongly one way or another before the first pitch tomorrow night.

  1. ezthinking - Oct 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Pretty clear the line was set to draw in Giants gamblers with the +160. It doesn’t hurt that San Fran is a couple hours from Reno to go gamble.

  2. stabonerichard - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Tigers in 5, with Verlander winning the opener & clincher to nab MVP honors.

    • sailcat54 - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:21 PM

      The Tigers are not going to be facing a crippled Yankees team in the WS. They will be playing against a damned determined Giants team who pitches, hits, and fields like they intend to win against all odds. For qualified opinions on the topic, call the Reds and the 2011 World Series Champs Cardinals and see what they think. But don’t let that stop you. Please, by all means, underestimate the Gigantes. I hope the Tigers do, too.

      Go Giants!

      • stabonerichard - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:53 PM

        I’m not a fan of either team trying to piss in the opposing fanbases’ cheerios; that’s just my prediction. Sure I’m going out on a bit of a limb in predicting the Tigers will only need 5 games to wrap things up, but I’m breaking it down like this:

        Verlander wins Games 1 & 5

        Detroit takes 2 of 3 in between (two of which will be played in Detroit)

        But that’s why they play the games….we’ll see what happens.

      • Brian Donohue - Oct 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

        I like SF for a number of factors: bullpen, defense, bottom of the order, and of course the home field ad, which could be big for them both in terms of keeping Miggy and Prince in the park and the obvious edge at the 9th place position in the lineup for SF. Good pitching can get the Tigers out consistently; both the A’s and Yanx pitched well enough to beat them in every game but their respective last ones.

        The last factor is momentum, which can be spun either way. The Tigers swept the Empire, which even with a week off afterward, has got to be a boost; the Giants keep winning with their backs to the wall. As is usually the case in the divisional era of this game, this Series will not necessarily identify the best team in baseball in an end-to-end sense, but the hottest team of autumn. No matter about that; it will be a good one.

      • joshuamoser - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:25 PM

        How does the Giants rotation (will Cain pitch two games?) and the fact that they’ve had NO rest and a very long post season factor into the odds? Detroit has two of the best starting pitchers across MLB in the second half of the season. Tigers have Verlander for 2 games and Scherzer for 1 (Fister and Sanchez are added strength). It doesn’t take much run support when the Tigers have a 1.02 ERA for the entire post season. I won’t even address the Tigers run support in this comment. Come back to this thread next week and reflect on what just happened to the Giants.

  3. natstowngreg - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    The Giants will lose Games 1 & 2. Then, they’ll have the Tigers right where they want ‘em. :)

    Seriously, hope it’s a good series.

    • stex52 - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:41 PM

      Agreed. I have no dogs left in the fight, so I just wish for a good series.

  4. natsattack - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    -180 seems pretty big. I would have guessed -140.

    • Jeremy Fox - Oct 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM

      Agreed. I know the Giants don’t have their pitching lined up while the Tigers do. But if these are the odds that equalize the amount of money bet on the two teams (which is what Vegas wants), then I think people are really overrating the Tigers’ chances. The Tigers weren’t anywhere close to a .650 team during the regular season, and now they’re up against a good team rather than an average one.

      • joshuamoser - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:27 PM

        Tigers were underachievers during much of the regular season, and are now playing at the level their talent was expected to play at all year, and they are doing it when it matters the most.

  5. Marty - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    I can’t wait to see the Panda and Fielder chillin at first, talking about pulled pork and shit.

  6. natsattack - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    By the way, you are supposed to use the “Gambling, is it worth the loss?” picture on this post. :)

  7. number42is1 - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    I’m hoping for a great series. But more importantly i am hoping for a pre-game 1 cage match of Panda Vs Fielder

  8. badbiker - Oct 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    Fielder takes down Panda, eats one leg, saves the rest for later.

    Detroit fan here. I was looking forward to a STL v. DET rematch, but the Giants are one helluva team to comeback decisively as they did. It’s going to be a great series. Tigers have very streaky hitting, guys go cold and Giants win. Detroit bats get hot and it’s all over. Detroit has great pitching, but all of their starters have the capability of getting bombed early.

    It’s gonna be fun watching. I love ‘Frisco, great city – Leyland has to keep several of his players off the Wharf and they should take it in six.

    But! Giants……………………………..

  9. Detroit Michael - Oct 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    I’ll be cheering for the Tigers but not even tempted to wager on them at those odds.

  10. beelza - Oct 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Detroit’s power pitching is why they win this series. If Detroit can continue to pitch like below stats 1927 Yankees would have problems trying to hit.

    ALDS starting rotation v. Oakland – 34 2/3 out of a total 42 innings 5 earned runs (1.30 ERA) 21 hits, striking out 41 and walking 10.
    ALCS statrting rotation v. New York – 27.1 innings out of a total 38.2 earned runs (0.66 ERA) 14 hits, striking out 25, walking 9.

  11. libertynchurch - Oct 23, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    Pitching is the name of the game, and Detroit has the better starters. The superiority of the Giants bullpen is
    offset by the DH. Detroit will not need to pinch hit for their starters at home. And Verlander is good for 8 for each start. The Vegas line is spot-on.

    • twagner003 - Dec 11, 2012 at 11:29 PM

      I’m from the future and you didn’t know what the hell you were talking about!

  12. natsattack - Oct 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM

    SF in 6.

  13. sonoco - Oct 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    I clearly recall 2010:

    NLDS: Braves consensus favorites over Giants – Giants win in four
    NLCS: Phillies consensus favorites over Giants – Giants win in six
    WS: Rangers consensus favorites over Giants – Giants win in five

    They’ve needed and extra game in each series in 2012, so if the form holds the Giants will win the World Series in six games. Make it so Gigantes

    • joshuamoser - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:28 PM

      Is Melky coming back for the World Series???

    • TheBlindUmp - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM

      So far this year, it’s deja vu all over again. The Giants perform best when everything is against them. I wish they would bring Melky back and replace Huff. He’s a great guy but his playing days are past.

  14. xjokerz - Oct 23, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    have you seen the pitching matchups?

    Detroits going to expose the giants for what they are. Frauds

    Tigers in 4

    good luck vs Verlander if need be going 3 times in a 7 games series..ouch…

    either way, im bringing back out my broom from the yankees series, this should be fun

    • nineroutsider - Oct 23, 2012 at 4:35 PM

      It seems like a lot of Detroit fans are not respecting the Giants, reminds me of Rangers fans in 2010. There was an untouchable pitcher in that World Series too, Cliff Lee. The Giants beat him twice, even clinched the series against him. The Giants are battle tested and have multiple guys that can shut down an offense up and down their staff. Detroit is not going to blow them away, this is going to be a 7 game brawl.

      So you can put your broom away and save it for that weak shit in the AL, because the NL is a different beast and the Giants have plenty of ways they can win. Go Giants!

      • sailcat54 - Oct 23, 2012 at 6:20 PM

        In 2010 the Giants were supposed to lose to the superior pitching of the Phillies, and when they beat them, the Giants were supposed to lose to the superior pitching of the Rangers. Didn’t happen then, either. Now, in xjokerz fantasy, they’re supposed to lose to the superior pitching of the Tigers.

        The only useful function xjokerz’s broom will serve is to clean out his mom’s basement after he bets his rent money on his Tigers…and loses. Go Giants!

      • joshuamoser - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:32 PM

        Not about disrespect. Giants have two major players out of the lineup. Tigers are at full strength and playing to their talents…and have been doing so the entire post season. Miguel Cabrera is one of the best clutch hitters in decades. Starting Tigers rotation with 1.02 Post season ERA + Tigers 1 through 5 hitters in the lineup = 2012 World Series Champions (even with the big minus that is Jose Valverde). Tigers in 5 or 6 games.

      • sailcat54 - Oct 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM

        The Giants have a strong offense coupled with a talented starting pitching staff that racked up 35 runs during the seven games of the NLCS (against the 2011 World Series winners) while giving up 19. The Giants’ bull pen is strong, their closer is more reliable than the Tigers’ Valverde, their defense has been solid, and the team’s determination has been fierce. The Giants also do well on the road, something that the Tigers can’t say. It won’t be a walk over, but the Giants will take the WS. Read ‘em and weep.

    • doubleogator - Oct 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM

      Ask Cincy and St Louis if they think the Giants are frauds…..

  15. tom-a-hawk - Oct 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

    Giants Bullpen > Tigers Bullpen. Good Pitching > Good Hitting. Who is going to close a game for the Tigers…..Valverde?
    Giants in 6.

    • joshuamoser - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:10 AM

      Who? Justin Verlander is going to close two games for the Tigers – he will go 140 pitches if that’s what it takes. Watch the reels from his previous starts during the playoffs. He’s a beast on the mound when it means the most. The other two wins will come from a solid 7 innings from each of the other three starting pitchers (Sanchez recently had a CG, and Tigers post season ERA is 1.04 ). With the Tigers run production coming into full swing, Valverde might even be good for closing down one game (with a 6 run lead).

  16. pisano - Oct 23, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    I wouldn’t be too sure on the Tigers, the bullpen isn’t their strong suit, that being said I’m thinking the Giants.

    • dtownbeatdown - Oct 24, 2012 at 2:43 AM

      I guess you have not been watching the tigers games. Dotel, Smyly, and Coke have been dominent. Maybe you seen Valavrde’s melt down’s, you may have also seen our comeback after that. And not to mention our starters will be going longer into games now more then ever, oh and for our starting pitchers era… well thats below 1. I almost forgot to mention we have a triple crown winner on our team! Good Luck!

  17. loungefly74 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    good. i like us being the underdog…

  18. txnative61 - Oct 24, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    The betting line and metrics strongly favor Detroit. But——the Giants have shown grit. A big if, but if the Giants can take it to 7, that betting line would be foolish not to swing in their favor. I prefer good Baseball, and a long, exciting series. In that respect, last year will be hard to top.

  19. dtownbeatdown - Oct 24, 2012 at 2:22 AM

    Giants are just a bunch of pretenders trying to act like contenders. How many games did Melky help you win? That guy seemed like he was juiced up… oh wait. Giants you do not belong in the playoffs, your self righteous fans don’t deserve it nor do your cheating players. We swept the yankees, (What is your argument? they were banged up, you just beat the st. louis cardinals… barely. That doesn’t say much to me. ) you know the yankees that have been the most successful franchise in baseball.

    • sailcat54 - Oct 24, 2012 at 4:23 AM

      So, your Tigers managed to beat a crippled Yankees team that was in disarray and with its star players hurt or sitting on the bench. Very impressive. Now you’ll be able to wave your pom poms when they’re lining up against a team that intends to play a game called World Series Whoopass. Hope you’ll enjoy this WS as much as the Giants will. Oh, wait…you won’t.

      Go Giants!

  20. xjokerz - Oct 24, 2012 at 5:54 AM

    ohhh now its the Yankees fault that they couldnt hit Tigers pitching…. look at that… no respect for the Tigers … might want to check tigers pitching for the second half of the season…and as for the NL being a different type of beast… uhh..what?…

    NL baseball is a joke, boring, slow and sorry..but i have no interest in watching Verlander running out a ground ball to first

    Snooze fest in NL parks.. either way, tigers in 4

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