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	<title>Comments on: Mariners send out apology to season ticket holders for raising prices without warning</title>
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		<title>By: rca26</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Easier to ask forgiveness than permission, eh Seattle?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easier to ask forgiveness than permission, eh Seattle?</p>
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		<title>By: delchef9</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delchef9]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comming from a Nationals fan??!!  Give me a break  1 winning season and they&#039;re preaching to everyone about winning!!! LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comming from a Nationals fan??!!  Give me a break  1 winning season and they&#8217;re preaching to everyone about winning!!! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: tashkalucy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric Wedge is doing for the Mariners what he did for the Indians.

If the mariners would also hire Mark Shaporo and Chris Antonetti, then Mariners fans will find their ticket prices DROP instead of get raised, because fewer and fewer fans - particularly season ticket holders - will buy tickets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Wedge is doing for the Mariners what he did for the Indians.</p>
<p>If the mariners would also hire Mark Shaporo and Chris Antonetti, then Mariners fans will find their ticket prices DROP instead of get raised, because fewer and fewer fans &#8211; particularly season ticket holders &#8211; will buy tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: suckmyhawk2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good for you Micheal, I&#039;ve watched the M&#039;s since I was a kid when my dad took us to games in the kingdome. It&#039;s pretty sad what the franchise has become, I&#039;d love to keep the tradition going and take my son to some games but they are so painful to watch and Safeco just feels like a miserable place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you Micheal, I&#8217;ve watched the M&#8217;s since I was a kid when my dad took us to games in the kingdome. It&#8217;s pretty sad what the franchise has become, I&#8217;d love to keep the tradition going and take my son to some games but they are so painful to watch and Safeco just feels like a miserable place.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This has been a problem for the Mariners for over 10 years. Despite fielding a poor sports product and assaulting their patrons with ads at every turn, the M&#039;s have been at or near the forefront of price gouging for quite some time, while also outright ignoring STH complaints.

The M&#039;s pioneered scalping their own tickets, which opened the floodgates to Boston-style scalping in the streets and higher aftermarket ticket prices after the City had to repeal an anti-scalping ordinance to please the Mariners. 

They also began imposing &quot;premium&quot; pricing for some games (i.e., Yankees and Red Sox), and now use &quot;dynamic pricing&quot; despite being half-full almost all the time.

This all really started after 2001, when management felt fans would just show up regardless of how they were treated (I remember human chains of ushers screaming at fans to exit immediately after games -- no joke).

I finally wrote a long but polite letter, cc&#039;ed to both Howard Lincoln and Chuck Armstrong, regarding their disregard for their paying customers. I received no answer whatsoever, not even from a lackey.

So I cancelled my season tickets. Now I spend my summers watching the Sounders, whose owners actually meet with their season ticket holders -- all who want to show up -- and actually care what they have to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a problem for the Mariners for over 10 years. Despite fielding a poor sports product and assaulting their patrons with ads at every turn, the M&#8217;s have been at or near the forefront of price gouging for quite some time, while also outright ignoring STH complaints.</p>
<p>The M&#8217;s pioneered scalping their own tickets, which opened the floodgates to Boston-style scalping in the streets and higher aftermarket ticket prices after the City had to repeal an anti-scalping ordinance to please the Mariners. </p>
<p>They also began imposing &#8220;premium&#8221; pricing for some games (i.e., Yankees and Red Sox), and now use &#8220;dynamic pricing&#8221; despite being half-full almost all the time.</p>
<p>This all really started after 2001, when management felt fans would just show up regardless of how they were treated (I remember human chains of ushers screaming at fans to exit immediately after games &#8212; no joke).</p>
<p>I finally wrote a long but polite letter, cc&#8217;ed to both Howard Lincoln and Chuck Armstrong, regarding their disregard for their paying customers. I received no answer whatsoever, not even from a lackey.</p>
<p>So I cancelled my season tickets. Now I spend my summers watching the Sounders, whose owners actually meet with their season ticket holders &#8212; all who want to show up &#8212; and actually care what they have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: rcali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, most season tickets are bought by the corporations.  If it means laying off a few more people to cover the cost, they&#039;ll do it.  For those regular fans, I&#039;m sorry you&#039;ve been treated like this for the product that is on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, most season tickets are bought by the corporations.  If it means laying off a few more people to cover the cost, they&#8217;ll do it.  For those regular fans, I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;ve been treated like this for the product that is on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: dcfan4life</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do the Mariners even have a strong enough season ticket following to do this successfully? Most ticket prices are raised after teams do really well, not finish last yet again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the Mariners even have a strong enough season ticket following to do this successfully? Most ticket prices are raised after teams do really well, not finish last yet again.</p>
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		<title>By: suckmyhawk2012</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suckmyhawk2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, let&#039;s pay more to go watch a triple-A team and get cheesy handouts.. I won&#039;t go to another M&#039;s game until they start putting a quality product on the field... Excluding King Felix of course]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, let&#8217;s pay more to go watch a triple-A team and get cheesy handouts.. I won&#8217;t go to another M&#8217;s game until they start putting a quality product on the field&#8230; Excluding King Felix of course</p>
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