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	<title>Comments on: History suggests that Michael Bourn is likely to be a bust</title>
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		<title>By: thereisaparty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 18:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These player comps are practically worthless. They add nothing of substance, especially those from BRef]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These player comps are practically worthless. They add nothing of substance, especially those from BRef</p>
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		<title>By: vanmorrissey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanmorrissey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bourn fell into that one of the best years of his life comes in a contract year Category.  Let&#039;s see the Yankees fall for that and move Granderson to right and cough up the money for Bourn.  Another aging player with a bloated contract seems to fit the Yankee mold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bourn fell into that one of the best years of his life comes in a contract year Category.  Let&#8217;s see the Yankees fall for that and move Granderson to right and cough up the money for Bourn.  Another aging player with a bloated contract seems to fit the Yankee mold.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with stats is the problem with any empirical data. The analysis is looking backward for results. Prediction is always difficult. Bourn is still worth quite a bit of money if he maintains his performance going forward. But the article suggests he won&#039;t. 

Then again, maybe he is the two standard deviation exception. Only one way I know of to find out for sure. And it&#039;s expensive for some owner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with stats is the problem with any empirical data. The analysis is looking backward for results. Prediction is always difficult. Bourn is still worth quite a bit of money if he maintains his performance going forward. But the article suggests he won&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Then again, maybe he is the two standard deviation exception. Only one way I know of to find out for sure. And it&#8217;s expensive for some owner.</p>
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		<title>By: temporarilyexiled</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[temporarilyexiled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One other thing occurs to me.  In looking at the list that makes centerfield supposedly a strong position available in free agency, I look at every single name...and they all make me say...meh.  Is is only me, or does it seem like this year&#039;s free agents are mostly going to be asking for WAY more than they&#039;re worth?  I know - there&#039;s lots of money floating around - that said - how many of these guys seem like a good deal?  I see Brian Sabean&#039;s way of doing business working yet again.  Sign a few under-the-radar guys.  Make astute trades.  Try to develop what little there is from within.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing occurs to me.  In looking at the list that makes centerfield supposedly a strong position available in free agency, I look at every single name&#8230;and they all make me say&#8230;meh.  Is is only me, or does it seem like this year&#8217;s free agents are mostly going to be asking for WAY more than they&#8217;re worth?  I know &#8211; there&#8217;s lots of money floating around &#8211; that said &#8211; how many of these guys seem like a good deal?  I see Brian Sabean&#8217;s way of doing business working yet again.  Sign a few under-the-radar guys.  Make astute trades.  Try to develop what little there is from within.</p>
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		<title>By: temporarilyexiled</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[temporarilyexiled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pmcenroe

First poster to make me decide between telling them what I think of them and getting banned from this site.

Enough said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pmcenroe</p>
<p>First poster to make me decide between telling them what I think of them and getting banned from this site.</p>
<p>Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: temporarilyexiled</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[temporarilyexiled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 16:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make a lot of great points, and for the most part, I agree with them.  That said, this takes my argument further - to the place I really have been getting at - and didn&#039;t know how to say it - until now.  LOOKING AT STATS IS JUST AS FRAUGHT WITH PERIL AS USING THE EYE TEST.  Okay, different problems come up, but one is no less of a problem than the other.  What they have in common is:  WHAT MAKES YOU GOOD AT USING EITHER STATS OR YOUR EYES - OR AS WE BOTH AGREE ON - BOTH OF THEM - IS THE RELEVANCY OF THE INFORMATION YOU CHOOSE TO USE.  To me, a stathead is someone who thinks that just because they use sabermetrics, the information is somehow less likely to be off the mark.  In life, you learn that the more you know, the more there is to know...and that &quot;experts&quot;...are rarely experts.  Predictions tend to be more accurate when not influenced by ego, money, media exposure, trendiness, etc.  There&#039;s a radio ad on MLB where some idiot proclaims he likes the hot stove season better than the regular season (perhaps his team perpetually sucks).  Even if that&#039;s true - it&#039;s pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a lot of great points, and for the most part, I agree with them.  That said, this takes my argument further &#8211; to the place I really have been getting at &#8211; and didn&#8217;t know how to say it &#8211; until now.  LOOKING AT STATS IS JUST AS FRAUGHT WITH PERIL AS USING THE EYE TEST.  Okay, different problems come up, but one is no less of a problem than the other.  What they have in common is:  WHAT MAKES YOU GOOD AT USING EITHER STATS OR YOUR EYES &#8211; OR AS WE BOTH AGREE ON &#8211; BOTH OF THEM &#8211; IS THE RELEVANCY OF THE INFORMATION YOU CHOOSE TO USE.  To me, a stathead is someone who thinks that just because they use sabermetrics, the information is somehow less likely to be off the mark.  In life, you learn that the more you know, the more there is to know&#8230;and that &#8220;experts&#8221;&#8230;are rarely experts.  Predictions tend to be more accurate when not influenced by ego, money, media exposure, trendiness, etc.  There&#8217;s a radio ad on MLB where some idiot proclaims he likes the hot stove season better than the regular season (perhaps his team perpetually sucks).  Even if that&#8217;s true &#8211; it&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But even a fan can see quite a bit, if they watch a lot of baseball. This whole idea that the naked eye and sabremetrics conflict – to me – is ridiculous&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well they can conflict when the eye tells you something that doesn&#039;t actually happen.  There are two big problems with the eye test.  For one, many of us, if not most, aren&#039;t trained scouts so while we see someone catching everything/hitting everything, we may be missing an actual weakness (bad routes hidden by great speed) or lack of plate discipline covered up by an uncanny ability to foul pitches off.

Also, it&#039;s just not physically possible to watch every single play of every single game.  So a person could watch every Braves game, and give an excellent run down of the strengths and weaknesses of the Braves players, but they&#039;d be unable to give an accurate assessment vs other CFs in the game.

Scouts and stats both have their places in the game, but it&#039;s best when used together, not separate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But even a fan can see quite a bit, if they watch a lot of baseball. This whole idea that the naked eye and sabremetrics conflict – to me – is ridiculous</p></blockquote>
<p>Well they can conflict when the eye tells you something that doesn&#8217;t actually happen.  There are two big problems with the eye test.  For one, many of us, if not most, aren&#8217;t trained scouts so while we see someone catching everything/hitting everything, we may be missing an actual weakness (bad routes hidden by great speed) or lack of plate discipline covered up by an uncanny ability to foul pitches off.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s just not physically possible to watch every single play of every single game.  So a person could watch every Braves game, and give an excellent run down of the strengths and weaknesses of the Braves players, but they&#8217;d be unable to give an accurate assessment vs other CFs in the game.</p>
<p>Scouts and stats both have their places in the game, but it&#8217;s best when used together, not separate.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatcha talking aboot?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatcha talking aboot?</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure who you think is disagreeing with you on this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure who you think is disagreeing with you on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: temporarilyexiled</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[temporarilyexiled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve taken a lot of flack for bashing statheads.  My point has always been that old-school scouting and cutting-edge number crunching both have their place.  It shouldn&#039;t be an argument about which one makes sense.  It&#039;s about how well each discipline is used.  Matthew&#039;s post is a great example of how stats should be used.  These stats just happen to match the impression I&#039;ve always had of Michael Bourn - you know - the one I get with my own eyes.  Professional scouts have forgotten more than I&#039;ll ever know.  But even a fan can see quite a bit, if they watch a lot of baseball.  This whole idea that the naked eye and sabremetrics conflict - to me - is ridiculous.  Now if you want to discuss how the conflict has more to do with the fact that one or both of the disciplines are practiced badly - in public - and how some or all of the data gathered from one or both of these sources is a joke - then you&#039;d be getting somewhere.  As in so many things in life, it&#039;s not the field that should be questioned - it&#039;s the abilities of the practitioners in that field that make the difference.  It&#039;s not the thing - it&#039;s the execution of the thing - that matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken a lot of flack for bashing statheads.  My point has always been that old-school scouting and cutting-edge number crunching both have their place.  It shouldn&#8217;t be an argument about which one makes sense.  It&#8217;s about how well each discipline is used.  Matthew&#8217;s post is a great example of how stats should be used.  These stats just happen to match the impression I&#8217;ve always had of Michael Bourn &#8211; you know &#8211; the one I get with my own eyes.  Professional scouts have forgotten more than I&#8217;ll ever know.  But even a fan can see quite a bit, if they watch a lot of baseball.  This whole idea that the naked eye and sabremetrics conflict &#8211; to me &#8211; is ridiculous.  Now if you want to discuss how the conflict has more to do with the fact that one or both of the disciplines are practiced badly &#8211; in public &#8211; and how some or all of the data gathered from one or both of these sources is a joke &#8211; then you&#8217;d be getting somewhere.  As in so many things in life, it&#8217;s not the field that should be questioned &#8211; it&#8217;s the abilities of the practitioners in that field that make the difference.  It&#8217;s not the thing &#8211; it&#8217;s the execution of the thing &#8211; that matters.</p>
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		<title>By: jarathen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jarathen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Bourn is an older Peter Bourjos who will make too much money as his most important tools begin their precipitous decline. But if a team is trying to nail down the title in the next year or two, well, flags fly forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Bourn is an older Peter Bourjos who will make too much money as his most important tools begin their precipitous decline. But if a team is trying to nail down the title in the next year or two, well, flags fly forever.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct.</p>
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		<title>By: ptfu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ptfu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The three sections in Scott Boras&#039; Bourn Binder:

Section 1. The Bourn Identity.  Who is this guy?
Section 2: The Bourn Supremacy.  How this guy can win you pennants
Section 3: The Bourn Ultimatum.  What he will cost, take it or leave it, countless &quot;mystery teams&quot; are also bidding]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The three sections in Scott Boras&#8217; Bourn Binder:</p>
<p>Section 1. The Bourn Identity.  Who is this guy?<br />
Section 2: The Bourn Supremacy.  How this guy can win you pennants<br />
Section 3: The Bourn Ultimatum.  What he will cost, take it or leave it, countless &#8220;mystery teams&#8221; are also bidding</p>
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		<title>By: willclarkgameface</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willclarkgameface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I predicted a couple weeks ago that Rizzo would go after Bourn.  I still see this happening because Mike Rizzo is an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I predicted a couple weeks ago that Rizzo would go after Bourn.  I still see this happening because Mike Rizzo is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said this before. WAR for the last four years suggests he is worth about 16 MM$/yr, the key being for how long? It is, of course, a backward-looking metric. If he kept up at an average nearly 5 WAR for the next four years would you pay it? I think most GM&#039;s still appear to put more of a value on OPS+ when you look at the players they prefer.

But I think the Carl Crawford deal may affect Michael&#039;s value. I like him, but he may have trouble getting much past 60 MM$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said this before. WAR for the last four years suggests he is worth about 16 MM$/yr, the key being for how long? It is, of course, a backward-looking metric. If he kept up at an average nearly 5 WAR for the next four years would you pay it? I think most GM&#8217;s still appear to put more of a value on OPS+ when you look at the players they prefer.</p>
<p>But I think the Carl Crawford deal may affect Michael&#8217;s value. I like him, but he may have trouble getting much past 60 MM$.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh?</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming soon to a team near you, the thriller called THE BOURN BINDER, starring Michael Bourn, produced and directed by Scott Boras.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming soon to a team near you, the thriller called THE BOURN BINDER, starring Michael Bourn, produced and directed by Scott Boras.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think Saber guys are harsh buy using facts, you should read what &quot;old school&quot; guys (i.e. scouts) write about player abilities when the describe effort, body, aging, and durability.  &quot;Old School&quot; guys write about players like they are pieces of meat.

Look, this is a blog for fans, not for players.  If you are a fan of a team that might sign Bourne, don&#039;t you want to have an idea of what to expect from him if that happens and a forum in which to discuss it?

Setting expectation level is very important.  It isn&#039;t (and won&#039;t be) fair of fans to suddenly expect Bourne to be something he&#039;s not just because he&#039;s paid more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think Saber guys are harsh buy using facts, you should read what &#8220;old school&#8221; guys (i.e. scouts) write about player abilities when the describe effort, body, aging, and durability.  &#8220;Old School&#8221; guys write about players like they are pieces of meat.</p>
<p>Look, this is a blog for fans, not for players.  If you are a fan of a team that might sign Bourne, don&#8217;t you want to have an idea of what to expect from him if that happens and a forum in which to discuss it?</p>
<p>Setting expectation level is very important.  It isn&#8217;t (and won&#8217;t be) fair of fans to suddenly expect Bourne to be something he&#8217;s not just because he&#8217;s paid more.</p>
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		<title>By: forsch31</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the free agency period, and Matthew&#039;s article is very analytical and balanced, pointing out his strengths in the field while turning a light to his big issues at the plate. Yes, there&#039;s a very strong possibility that Bourn could be a free agent bust. That&#039;s the reality. I&#039;d rather the articles I read state the reality, rather than dance around the mayberry bush.

There&#039;s nothing mean-spirited about the article, unless you&#039;re Michael Bourn and your skin is made of wet paper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the free agency period, and Matthew&#8217;s article is very analytical and balanced, pointing out his strengths in the field while turning a light to his big issues at the plate. Yes, there&#8217;s a very strong possibility that Bourn could be a free agent bust. That&#8217;s the reality. I&#8217;d rather the articles I read state the reality, rather than dance around the mayberry bush.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing mean-spirited about the article, unless you&#8217;re Michael Bourn and your skin is made of wet paper.</p>
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		<title>By: kkolchak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kkolchak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This makes me especially happy that Bryce Harper emerged as the centerfield answer for the Nats (at least until Brian Goodwin is ready in a year or so).  Rizzo was hot-to-trot on Bourn a couple of years ago, but a $100+ million contract for him at this point would be nuts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me especially happy that Bryce Harper emerged as the centerfield answer for the Nats (at least until Brian Goodwin is ready in a year or so).  Rizzo was hot-to-trot on Bourn a couple of years ago, but a $100+ million contract for him at this point would be nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somehow, I doubt that Boras will use any of Matthew&#039;s analysis in his Bourn Binder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, I doubt that Boras will use any of Matthew&#8217;s analysis in his Bourn Binder.</p>
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		<title>By: bhekumuzimguni</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bhekumuzimguni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://bhekumuzimguni.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/history-suggests-that-michael-bourn-is-likely-to-be-a-bust/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bhekumuzi Mguni&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://bhekumuzimguni.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/history-suggests-that-michael-bourn-is-likely-to-be-a-bust/" rel="nofollow">Bhekumuzi Mguni</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: samu0034</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samu0034]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got to agree.  All of what Matthew said might be true, and it&#039;s absolutely the sort of thing that GMs ought to consider when writing out contracts for players like Bourn.  That said, however, it just seems kind of mean spirited to go on at length about how mediocre he&#039;s been, and how much he&#039;s destined to suck from here on out.  It&#039;s a fair thing to write about, it&#039;s what sports writers are supposed to write about, but there&#039;s something to be said for tactfulness also.

Further, I think that articles that are written in this manner are a lot of the reason that SABRe guys get a bad rap from old-school guys.  Michael Bourn is a human being, he&#039;s not a line in a spreadsheet.  Sure, compared to other players similar to him the odds seem pretty good that he&#039;s going to have a hard time living up to whatever his next contract pays him, and that&#039;s a good and fair thing to write about.  And as I mentioned before, it&#039;s something that should be accounted for by GMs when considering what to pay him.  But there&#039;s no need to write an article that in so many words says &quot;Michael Bourn is going to suck from here on out, the numbers tell me so&quot; and then defend yourself by including a throwaway little paragraph at the end saying that maybe Michael Bourn can buck the trend (but don&#039;t bet on it ;-) ).

Finally, why not use a headline like &quot;Odds against Bourne living up to next contract&quot; rather than &quot;History suggests that Michael Bourn is likely to be a bust&quot;?  That alone would diffuse a lot of the petty tone the article has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to agree.  All of what Matthew said might be true, and it&#8217;s absolutely the sort of thing that GMs ought to consider when writing out contracts for players like Bourn.  That said, however, it just seems kind of mean spirited to go on at length about how mediocre he&#8217;s been, and how much he&#8217;s destined to suck from here on out.  It&#8217;s a fair thing to write about, it&#8217;s what sports writers are supposed to write about, but there&#8217;s something to be said for tactfulness also.</p>
<p>Further, I think that articles that are written in this manner are a lot of the reason that SABRe guys get a bad rap from old-school guys.  Michael Bourn is a human being, he&#8217;s not a line in a spreadsheet.  Sure, compared to other players similar to him the odds seem pretty good that he&#8217;s going to have a hard time living up to whatever his next contract pays him, and that&#8217;s a good and fair thing to write about.  And as I mentioned before, it&#8217;s something that should be accounted for by GMs when considering what to pay him.  But there&#8217;s no need to write an article that in so many words says &#8220;Michael Bourn is going to suck from here on out, the numbers tell me so&#8221; and then defend yourself by including a throwaway little paragraph at the end saying that maybe Michael Bourn can buck the trend (but don&#8217;t bet on it <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>Finally, why not use a headline like &#8220;Odds against Bourne living up to next contract&#8221; rather than &#8220;History suggests that Michael Bourn is likely to be a bust&#8221;?  That alone would diffuse a lot of the petty tone the article has.</p>
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		<title>By: canadabaseball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[canadabaseball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He will go to angles and then they will trade trumbo for pitching and or cash]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He will go to angles and then they will trade trumbo for pitching and or cash</p>
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		<title>By: missthemexpos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[missthemexpos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have raised some good points, now what I would really like to see is the binder of info that Scott Boras is presenting to various General Managers as to why his client (Michael Bourn) deserves a contract in the neighborhood of 100 million.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have raised some good points, now what I would really like to see is the binder of info that Scott Boras is presenting to various General Managers as to why his client (Michael Bourn) deserves a contract in the neighborhood of 100 million.</p>
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		<title>By: missthedayswhenwedidnthavetologin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[missthedayswhenwedidnthavetologin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man just let the man make his money Matthew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man just let the man make his money Matthew.</p>
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