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Scott Boras really thinks the Yankees should sign Rafael Soriano

Nov 5, 2012, 10:32 AM EDT

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Scott Boras, you will not be surprised to hear, believes that the Yankees should sign Rafael Soriano. From Jon Paul Morosi’s latest:

“If the Yankees didn’t sign Soriano, they wouldn’t have won the AL East,” Boras said flatly. “This is the value of depth. If the Yankees signed Soriano (after the 2010 season) when Rivera was 40 and healthy, why wouldn’t you sign Soriano when Rivera is 42 and coming off knee surgery? … When you know Mariano Rivera will be there for only one more year — at his age, coming off an injury — you can’t expect him to be what he was two years ago. There is a need there. You want to secure a great talent for future years. Soriano has proven he can be effective in New York. The team knows more about him. His value has gone higher.”

There is good sense in there. And, yes, the Yankees may sign Rafael Soriano. Anything can happen. But just assuming they will sign the big name free agents because they have the money like they used to is to ignore their stated and, thus far, carried out goal of getting payroll down compared to where it used to be so as to avoid the luxury tax.

The alternative to Soriano is to go with Rivera, who is coming back, Dave Robertson, Joba Chamberlain, Boone Logan, Clay Rapada, and Cody Eppley, perhaps substituting one or two of them — or augmenting — with lower tier relievers and hoping that they can do what so many successful teams do and just capture lightning in a bottle on low price relievers.

Soriano would likely be a good pitcher for the next couple of years, but the make-do plan is not the worst plan in the world. Bullpens are crapshoots. And while there is no guarantee that Rivera is his old self when he comes back, the Yankees will start shooting craps from a pretty good position in 2013.

  1. proudlycanadian - Nov 5, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    I am shocked, totally shocked, to read that Boras wants his client to be overpaid.

    • natstowngreg - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      So, you were also shocked that the sun rose this morning? :)

      • proudlycanadian - Nov 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM

        We have had so much rain and cloud over the last 10 days, that I have forgotten what the sun looked like.

      • florida727 - Nov 6, 2012 at 4:30 PM

        Scott Boras, Player Pimp.
        It says so right on his business card.
        How does this guy sleep at night?

      • florida727 - Nov 6, 2012 at 4:32 PM

        I just realized something… Mariano Rivera is NOT a Scott Boras client!

    • paperlions - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:46 PM

      Odd. I only saw comments stating he’d be a useful player for a particular team. Am I supposed to assume that if the Yankees sign a player that they overpay? They never do that.

      /sarcasm

    • badintent - Nov 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM

      Someone should throw a fastball at Boras’s mouth !A broken jaw will do wonders for all GMs.

  2. willclarkgameface - Nov 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Boras strikes again, this time with the Rafael Soriano cause.

    I hate to do it, but I agree that the Yankees should probably take a look at him, especially not knowing what kind of condition #42 will be in come spring 2013.

    Do we trust that any of the other guys can get the job done? Maybe they will just be too busy making Joba a starter. Then a reliever. Then a starter. Then a reliever. Then he will be out after jumping on a trampoline like an idiot. Oh wait…

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM

      Do we trust that any of the other guys can get the job done?

      Why not, in the non-Rivera group of closers, I’d rather take Soria on a shorter term deal than Soriano any day of the week. He’s cheaper, younger and a better pitcher. The Joba comment isn’t even worth replying to.

    • paperlions - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM

      You forgot to point out that Rizzo will probably sign him and that Superstorm Sandy was all Rizzo’s fault…the wrath of God (for benching Strausburg) gone awry.

      • natstowngreg - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:34 PM

        You’re forgetting something very important. Rizzo is nothing but Boras’ puppet. Thus, all disasters (natural and human) represent the wrath of the Gods of Baseball against Boras.

        See, everything is explained easily, if you just understand a few simple delusions, er, truths.

  3. Gardenhire's Cat - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Although he just had TJS, I rather go after Joakim Soria as he’s younger and his asking price is probably lower.

    • geoknows - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM

      It was his second Tommy John surgery. Very few pitchers look anything like their former selves after the second. Buyer beware.

      • Gardenhire's Cat - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:16 PM

        According to this fairly complete list, it was only his first: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0ApDc5PGsBzgVdFpGbk84WnhNZlZ4VlFEY3pDVkFzNnc&f=true&noheader=false&gid=1

      • Gardenhire's Cat - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM

        Wrong link, I apologize: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0ApDc5PGsBzgVdFpGbk84WnhNZlZ4VlFEY3pDVkFzNnc&f=true&noheader=true&gid=3

  4. larrybrown43 - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Seems like a no brainer to me. He just proved he can get the job done.

    • Old Gator - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM

      Yes he did. And though the bullpen may indeed be a crapshoot, Soriano is the closest thing the Borg has this orfseason to loaded dice.

  5. jeteribarelyknowher - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Mark Montgomery.

  6. historiophiliac - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    I love that when Josh Hamilton’s name comes up, the Tigers invariably get mentioned; however, no one floats them as an option on Soriano posts.

    • frank433 - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:28 PM

      Probably because they said they would go closer by commitee with Rondon getting a shot. Plus, they didn’t have a first round pick last year, and probably would like to keep the one they have this year (plus the extra one they have from the trade with the Marlins).

      Look for the Tigers to target Madden if they sign a closer this offseason.

      • historiophiliac - Nov 5, 2012 at 3:10 PM

        I think you kind of missed the point of my comment, but anyway, why would the Tigers spend a ton on an outfielder and scrimp on a closer after the Valverde debacle?

  7. jckid21 - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    Memo to Scott…..Yanks r committed to b at 189 mil by 2014.

  8. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    sure, the Yankees can take him. how about three years and 15$MM? After all, no other team will raise Soriano’s profile quite like the Yankees.

    though they do have Rivera, Robertson, Chamberlain and Aardsma all with closer experience and/or expectation. if they want another proven closer, Madson, Sofia, Myers and Matt Capps are all out there cheaper than Soriano.

    HINT: there is some sarcasm hidden in this post.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:54 PM

      You’ve stumbled upon the Yanks secret for the off-season, stock the bullpen with closers, have the starters go 5 innings each and let the numerous “9th inning” guys take over.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Nov 5, 2012 at 6:28 PM

        But everyone knows that once a closer gets a capital C, he can’t pitch any other inning without stinking up the joint. Lack of adrenaline or something yadda yadda…

  9. djpostl - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    The Yankees have Aardsma in the pen and can look at other options before over-paying for Soriano (I like the guy, he thrived in NYY but it willl be an over-pay none the less).

    Madsen, Soria and others can be had for far less & might be just as good an option when factoring the luxury tax issue.

    The important thing to remember it isn’t about getting under AND staying under the cap. It’s a matter of getting under it to reset the rate they are taxed.

    Simply doing that saves them tens of millions per year moving forward.

    Rather than cutting checks that other teams get to cash they can then issue those checks to other players that can help the cause.

  10. damnyankee13 - Nov 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    if siriano goes unsigned, boras gets no money.

    • proudlycanadian - Nov 5, 2012 at 5:24 PM

      siriano will go unsigned. Trust me on this.

  11. pisano - Nov 5, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Hey Scott, guess what , the Yankees don’t need Soriano, if Mo isn’t his old self, Robertson will take over. The reason Robertson failed last year was he was coming back from an injury and was rusty, Joe panicked and gave the role to Soriano, but Robertson can close, you can believe that.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM

      He was also given, what, one opportunity and then removed from it?

      • mazblast - Nov 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        Robertson wasn’t removed from the job. He got hurt his first or second appearance after being named the interim closer. By the time he came off the DL, Soriano had taken the job and run away with it.

  12. mojosmagic - Nov 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Why the dip shit asks. Because there are much better options out there.

  13. sandrafluke2012 - Nov 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    I don’t get the hate of Boras. The owners are the stupid ones. If I were an owner, an Boras came into my offices and said, “Player X is the best of all time and deserves 7 figures,” I would laugh at him. Owners are at fault

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