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Red Sox to hire Juan Nieves as pitching coach

Nov 7, 2012, 1:48 PM EDT

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Despite reports that manager John Farrell wanted Rick Peterson as his pitching coach Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com says the Red Sox “are expected” to give the job to Juan Nieves.

Nieves has spent the past five seasons as the White Sox’s bullpen coach and also spent nearly a decade as a pitching coach in the minors.

Before getting into coaching he pitched for the Brewers from 1986-1988, becoming the second-youngest player in baseball history to throw a no-hitter, but arm problems ended his career at age 23.

Nieves made headlines a couple years ago for saying during a radio interview that White Sox pitchers should intentionally throw at Twins hitters to “see if you can start a fight.”

Nieves takes over a pitching staff that was coached by Farrell from 2006-2010 and ranked 12th and 9th among AL teams in ERA during the two seasons he spent as Blue Jays manager.

  1. uyf1950 - Nov 7, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Question for Red Sox fans. If the piece is correct and Farrell wanted a different Pitching Coach is this yet another example of Management hiring their preference over the Managers preference (rings of Valentine not being able to hire his own coaches). It would seem to me that Farrell being an Ex-pitching coach and someone the Red Sox were willing to move mountains to hire they would have allowed him to hire his own pitching coach at least.

    • dan1111 - Nov 7, 2012 at 3:40 PM

      This speculation is understandable given the history (it came to my mind, too), but really it is only speculation at this point. We don’t know who made the decision to hire Nieves; the idea that Farrell wanted Peterson only came from an anonymous source anyway; and we don’t know if Peterson even wanted the job.

      • patsandsox - Nov 7, 2012 at 3:58 PM

        If he wanted Peterson and got stuck with the GM’s coach we they are off to a bad start, so I hope this is bull.

    • paperlions - Nov 7, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      Picking coaches isn’t the sole domain of the manager anymore. The manager has input, can give recommendations, and such…but the final say almost always lies with the GM these days. Teams want to make sure that everyone in the organization is preaching the same methods and approaches, and that everyone is on board with the organizational philosophy. At the same time, teams aren’t likely to force coaches on a manager, either. I would be shocked to find out that the Sox hired a pitching coach that wasn’t okay with Farrell…..after the fiasco last year with the FO forcing a manager on their GM….it seems highly unlikely they would make a similar mistake the very next year.

  2. themuddychicken - Nov 7, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    That was my concern. He will have some of his own coaches, as they are bringing them over from the Jays, but it seems like the pitching coach is the one where he’d have the most sway.

  3. chuckleberry1974 - Nov 7, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    I’m glad this will leave Rick Peterson in his position with the Orioles organization. I think he influenced the team’s direction, but it was just a start and he needs to stay to continue what he started.

  4. willclarkgameface - Nov 7, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    Farrell knew all along what the scene was in the front office. He should have DEMANDED that he get to pick or at least have final approval on his coaching staff.

    This team is screwed.

  5. xpensivewinos - Nov 7, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    It’s the most important coaching hire they’re going to make. There’s no way anyone will convince me that John Farrell is not completely on board with this move. All we’ve heard for the past few weeks is how he and Cherington are two peas in a pod, singing from the same song book and smacking each other in the ass with wet towels. Their giddy bromance is in full bloom.

    No effing way Cherington hired a pitching coach that Farrell didn’t want.

  6. tfbuckfutter - Nov 7, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    Am I the only Sox fan who likes and hates every move so far?

    I want to be optimistic, but I’m pretty sure everything is going to burn.

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