Comments on: Scott Boras says that the Indians owners don’t care about winning

By: minimatt27

minimatt27 — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:52:39 +0000

Someone should tell Boras that not any of his clients are worth the money he brings them. Look what ARod did to the Rangers and Yankees.. Crippled them for years after he signed there.. People like Boras should not be allowed to be a Agent.. People like him are ruining the game of baseball.. Choo is not worth what he is going to try to get him

By: mundial8

mundial8 — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:02:22 +0000

12 people don’t know who Harry Doyle is.

By: mottershead1972

mottershead1972 — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:31:59 +0000

Douche

By: albertmn

albertmn — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:29:58 +0000

Of course, if Cleveland is nowhere near a playoff team, there is no reason for them to spend big on free agents. Free agent spending is better done when you need to add a few pieces to a strong nucleus of home grown players, not as a productive way to build your entire roster.

By: albertmn

albertmn — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:27:47 +0000

Give it a rest already on the Strassburg crap! It’s over. Let it go. Move on with your life.

By: stex52

stex52 — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:18:27 +0000

You give him too much credit. If there hadn’t been a Scott Boras, the player’s association would have created one. He gets the money because his clients are willing to fight for it.

By: Liam

Liam — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:54:25 +0000

“Well, as owners, they are entitled to try to make a profit. If the players want to share in the profits, they should also share in the losses.”

Considering the way MLB teams make money, I am sure Boras and his clients would happily accept ownership shares in lieu of direct pay, it’s much more likely that the owners would find the issue with this kind of system.

The economics of baseball aren’t that complicated. The players produce nearly all of the value while the billionaire owners capture that through monopsony practices early in the players’ careers. Boras and his colleagues just simply try to recapture some of that value. Once the money’s out of my pocket, I’d prefer it go to the players than the owners.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:28:37 +0000

Crap. Unable to properly use reply button. I was responding to jeff down below.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:27:37 +0000

Do you honestly think that if owners save a few million bucks from a player signing that somehow that will translate to lower gate fees? Please pass along whatever it is you’re smoking.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:08:35 +0000

What losses? Over the last 50 years no owner has lost money owning a team, most have made many hundreds of millions of dollars. There aren’t any losses to share in, just profits.

Besides, the player are the entire basis of the profits. The owner are fungible and could be replaced with any other group of 30 rich guys and you won’t notice any difference….the only leverage the owners have is their monopoly and their control of stadiums, many of which were built with public money.

By: mojosmagic

mojosmagic — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:05:38 +0000

Scum bag and the single biggest reason many fans can’t afford a family outing to the park.

By: skids003

skids003 — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:55:57 +0000

Well, as owners, they are entitled to try to make a profit. If the players want to share in the profits, they should also share in the losses.

By: vallewho

vallewho — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:53:34 +0000

why can’t he just choke on his own tongue?

By: kicksave1980

kicksave1980 — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:35:06 +0000

I guess it doesn’t work as well as it did when the movie came out, but I still love this one.

“Just a reminder, fans, about “Die-Hard Night” coming up here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Indians won a pennant.”

By: theghostofberniekosar

theghostofberniekosar — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:23:13 +0000

I can’t stand this guy any more than the rest of you, but he’s completely correct on this one. Larry Dolan has never and will never care about winning. As long as he makes his money, he’ll be happy.

You can expect a roster dismantling this winter followed by one of the smallest payrolls in the league next spring.

By: deepstblu

deepstblu — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:15:40 +0000

I’ve been looking into keeping more of my own money recently.

By: roverkarlthecannedham

roverkarlthecannedham — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:45:08 +0000

I am Kar Rover and I approve of Scott Boras. He is just like me. If I ever get to meet him I shall offer him a drink of my favorite libation: a crystal goblet of the blood of my enemies . . . over ice with a twist.

By: uwsptke

uwsptke — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:35:08 +0000

That works for some (Brewers locked down Braun, Gallardo, Hart, Weeks and Lucroy in the past few years to name a few), but not for others (Fielder repeatedly turned down offers to buy out any free agency years).

Trivia – guess which one of those six guys is a Boras client?

By: willclarkgameface

willclarkgameface — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:32:58 +0000

Boras is a slimy bastard, but he’s got a real strong point here.

You could, however, throw this accusation at a number of organizations that are reluctant to spend any kind of money, teams like Pittsburgh, Kansas City, San Diego (old ownership), and Oakland.

Cleveland must be a nightmare for players and fans alike. Why on Earth would you go there as a player? 1995/97 was a LONG time ago. Even in 2007 they showed hope and then they let Lee and CC go and BAM. Finished.

What now Cleveland? Time to become Reds fans?

By: jeffbbf

jeffbbf — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:22:12 +0000

What’s so frustrating is that yes – everyone knows what he’s trying to do. that stupid “mystery team” tactic is old and tired, and most of us just laugh at the silliness of it. Then, of course, some dumbass owner panics and falls for it. Almost every time. There’s only been a couple of instances where Boras’ tactics didn’t work for his client, and a player ended up taking a 1 year deal for $2 million instead of the 3 year $20 million deal they were demanding. Bottom line – it’s the owner’s fault. Blame those morons. Boras is only taking advantage of the weaker party in the negotiation. Unfortunately, it’s costing all of us more in gate fees.

By: Charles Gates

Charles Gates — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:16:00 +0000

It is my moral imperative to sign the best deal possible to support my family and loved ones, and in most instances, this means obtaining the contract worth the most money. Scott Boras does not try to obscure his intentions and he almost always gets the best deal for his clients. Call me what you want, but I wouldn’t feel guilty one iota about cashing one of those paychecks.

By: Charles Gates

Charles Gates — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:13:00 +0000

Scott Boras is the truest thing in MLB today. Everyone knows what he’s trying to do and, in most cases, he does it. He is phenomenal at his job. I would hire him in a nanosecond to represent me in my up coming year end review.

By: gibbyfan

gibbyfan — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:07:58 +0000

Stex and Edel –great points !! Just to expand –I’m sure all owners want to win but some seem able to contain their egos and remember what made them successful in the first place –I will always root for the underdog. But dont be too concerned for Mr. Boros –Until and unless owners realize that overspending can make them look foolish, he will always have clents. I mean, c’mon even the Yankees have to be a little wounded in the ego at this point, and deservedly so.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:00:48 +0000

What, exactly, does he represent that is bad about baseball? All he does is help more of the fan’s money find it’s way to where it belongs…in the pockets of the players.

Would you rather your money be kept by the owners (who are the one’s setting crazy high prices for tickets, parking, and concessions….the market drives those prices, not player salaries) or go to the players whose talent makes the game what it is?

I’m voting for the players.

By: Chris Fiorentino

Chris Fiorentino — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:55:24 +0000

Whereas the Nationals want to compete more than any other team as they continue to sign Bor-ass clients. Of course, they don’t want to compete so much that they disobey Bor-ass when he mandates that his client not pitch above a certain # of innings.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:54:41 +0000

Huh? You realize that nearly ALL players have agents, right? And that many of the guys that are “locked up” to team friendly deals turn out to be “locked up” to player friendly deals, as often they are just buying up the arbitration years and 1 or 2 years of FA….and that agents get their cut regardless of whether or not a player is a FA.

Teams are still spending more money than they used to, meaning Boras is still making a crap ton of money….but yeah, he’s just doing what he’s paid to do. He isn’t supposed to be unbiased, he’s not a judge, he’s an advocate for his clients (just like a lawyer).

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:48:50 +0000

One thing you can always say about America: there will always be a gobbet of worse "convoluted lawyerspeak" around the next corner.

By: xpensivewinos

xpensivewinos — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:37:02 +0000

Boras is a vile scumbag and represents everything bad about baseball.

Anyone who would have him as an agent is a scumbag by proxy.

By: albertmn

albertmn — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:21:10 +0000

As fans, many of us dislike Boras and other agents like him. We don’t like what he does to the game and he just seems like a slimy guy. But, if we were major league players, how many of us would want him to be our agent? I would at least consider it, even as it pains me to write it. The guy does his job very well and makes money for the majority of his clients.

By: shawnamer

shawnamer — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:17:31 +0000

BREAKING NEWS! The Royals ownership doesn’t care either.