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Jaime Garcia throws off mound, set for “normal offseason”

Nov 13, 2012, 3:45 PM EDT

Jaime Garcia, Cameron Maybin AP

Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post Dispatch has an encouraging update on Cardinals left-hander Jaime Garcia, who’s trying to avoid surgery after being shut down with a shoulder injury.

Garcia threw 25 pitches off a mound yesterday and general manager John Mozeliak told Goold that he’s on track for a “normal offseason.”

There are still some big hurdles for Garcia to clear, but for now at least the Cardinals can pencil him into the Opening Day rotation and according to Mozeliak “the word surgery never came up” in discussions with the team’s medical staff this week.

  1. okwhitefalcon - Nov 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    I’ll take May in the “What month will Garcia break down” pool.

    • paperlions - Nov 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM

      I’ll take early March….sooner if he pitches for Mexico in the WBC.

  2. stlouis1baseball - Nov 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    Anywhere from (7 – 35) Doctors recommended surgery.
    Jaime decides against it. And really…why shouldn’t he? After all…what do Doctors know?
    He is now set for a “normal offseason.” Yep…no issues. Will come out ready to go in 2013.
    Is it too late to offer Jaime to Cleveland as part of the Asdrubal deal?

    • paperlions - Nov 13, 2012 at 5:46 PM

      Yep, normal off-season….sadly, it will probably result in missing most of the actual season.

    • forsch31 - Nov 13, 2012 at 7:39 PM

      Actually, 2 doctors. The third–Dr. James Andrews, who’s pretty much the leading expert on orthopedic surgery for athletes–told him *not* to get surgery and recommended rehab instead. Gee, wonder why Garcia listened to him….

      What Garcia has is a rotator cuff strain and inflammation. Surgery is usually undertaken when the cuff has a large tear. Rotator cuff surgeries are far, far riskier and harder to recover from than Tommy John, and several pitchers don’t return at all, much less get back to the kind of pitcher they were before. By agreeing to undergo the surgery, Garcia will be putting his career at risk. So I don’t blame him getting the best advice he can get.

      • spudchukar - Nov 13, 2012 at 9:08 PM

        According to the leading orthopedic surgeon here in skiville, er Sun Valley, Idaho, almost everyone has a partially torn rotator cuff, it is only a matter of degrees, or so he informed me before surgery. And while my shoulder is remarkably better, the rehab was considerably more painful, and took a lot longer to come around than knee replacement surgery.

      • stlouis1baseball - Nov 14, 2012 at 1:58 PM

        I appreciate your post Bob. Obviously, I was joking with my (7 – 35) Doctors comment.
        Bottom line…Jaime has been damaged goods for quite sometime now.
        Personally, I don’t want a repeat of 2013. Which is precisely what I expect to happen.
        At least with surgery…
        you aren’t dangling around like a yo-yo wondering when he is going to return.

  3. blues1988 - Nov 13, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    good thing we got a bunch of young hurlers to take his spot WHEN he has to go on the dl. can’t believe we’re just letting him not get surgery and that jaime thinks he knows more than all the doctors he went to.

    • gibbyfan - Nov 13, 2012 at 5:32 PM

      Totally agree Blues and I wouldnt bet against OKs post above but I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt make April–I guess his thinking is that he has the multi millions locked up anyway so if he breaks down then he just has the surgery later –why give any consideration to the team and take the advice of the best surgeons in the country.
      Good arguments on both sides can go back and forth about the size and term of players contracts –but it seems that one proviso should be that you have to physically able to perforn in order to keep a contract like that in place.
      Wish him the best but like St. louis fan above would love to see him traded if possible–even for a defensively challenged SS

      • forsch31 - Nov 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

        Gibby, he did take the advice of the best surgeon in the country, which is why he’s not getting the surgery done (see my comment above). The other two surgeons were Dr. Lewis Yocum of the Los Angeles Dodgers and Dr. David Altcheck, who is the medical director for the New York Mets and an attending orthopedic surgeon at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York who has operated on many athletes. When Garcia had this injury back in June, he went to the same specialists and Dr. James Andrews for their opinion before making a decision.

    • paperlions - Nov 13, 2012 at 6:20 PM

      In fairness (because really, none of know anything about the situation), there are plenty of shoulder problem than can be corrected with rest and PT or with surgery. The shoulder is a weird screwed up joint that is naturally unstable. Surgery on one is always a risk. I can’t blame a guy for only having surgery if he is out of options.

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