Comments on: Do PEDs really work? Well …

By: dsmaxsucks

dsmaxsucks — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:29:53 +0000

If he’s not encouraging it then why did I look up how much it costs.

Also, there is nothing about side effects (did he beat up any girls?), It is actually a very exciting article for fat guys, but there are certain things missing.

By: albertmn

albertmn — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:59:26 +0000

Why do we need to fight? Cake and pie are both marvelous, and we live in a country(countries) where we can ready get either. Thanks to any being you may choose to worship (or not)!!

By: 78mu

78mu — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:01:42 +0000

Or what about the difficulty so many great hitters had reaching 60 HRs and hitting 50 was a big deal. Then in a span of as few years 70 HRs wouldn’t even lead the league.

By: Alex K

Alex K — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:50:16 +0000

Fair point. That was definitely pretty high on the expected outcomes list.

By: genericcommenter

genericcommenter — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 02:21:39 +0000

This reads like an ad for “JP8x Hardcore” supplement, whatever that is. And the content of that post made the supplement sound more like something along the lines of an ECA stack, rather than some hardcore steroid. For those who don’t remember the time before some idiots abused ephedra and got a substance safer than Tylenol banned, you used to be able to buy all kinds of supplements over the counter at GNC and even Wal-Mart that used ephedra or similar substance in a weight-loss stack. It was more like diet pills than any kind of muscle builder. No one was getting jacked using Hydroxycut. Might as well claim to be “cheating” using Met-rx and creatine or any other supplement widely available and safely used in the 90s.

By: historiophiliac

historiophiliac — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:46:25 +0000

Unfortunately, Cur, cheesecake does not meet your half-naked-girls-jump-out-of-it requirement. When I went to Quebec, I had cheesepie — which was like cheesecake on PED’s.

By: cur68

cur68 — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:14:35 +0000

I was expecting a heart attack.

By: Alex K

Alex K — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:08:44 +0000

What would you expect when a person takes an amphetamine? It is exactly what I would expect.

By: Alex K

Alex K — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:05:09 +0000

Preach it, church! Ice cream is clearly superior in the first place…put into cake form it is the end all be all of desserts.

By: Alex K

Alex K — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:03:59 +0000

As for the article how does it make anyone a winner? A fat guy took an amphetamine and lost a bunch of weight because he was able to work out longer and harder. What is his next magic trick? Proving water is wet?

The only thing this proved is something everyone already knows.

By: natstowngreg

natstowngreg — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:03:01 +0000

Sigh. When are you troglodytes going to recognize the inherent superiority of cheesecake?

Cheesecake is not bound by artificial, pedestrian distinctions between cakes and pies. Cheesecake rises above the pitiful, childish squabbling that passes for the So-Called Great Cake-Pie Debate. Cheesecake is wholly supoerior, as are we of the Cheesecake Liberation Front. Yes, we are elitist SOBs, and proud of it!

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:47:09 +0000

Ice cream cake is like the HR derby: it is supposed to be part of the sport, but on its own it seems cheap

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:45:30 +0000

Cheesecake is pie. It has crust and no frosting

By: cur68

cur68 — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:40:35 +0000

Yep. Good thing zombies don’t use supplements

By: cur68

cur68 — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:39:18 +0000

Cheesecake is cake because of the dearth of soggy fruit, lack of crust on top, and awesomeness.

By: cur68

cur68 — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:37:54 +0000

Strawberry-rhubarb pie is for the weak minded who like soggy fruit. Cake is for people who like food that half naked girls jump out of.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:35:52 +0000

Isn’t rule 1: cardio?

By: kopy

kopy — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:31:23 +0000

Cheesecake is a pie because it’s filled into a crust and doesn’t rise. I don’t know if there’s an argument to be make toward cake other than its unfortunate nomenclature.

By: stevejeltzjehricurl

stevejeltzjehricurl — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:29:48 +0000

He’s not encouraging it in the least. He’s showing us why it’s such a problem.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0000

Cake is just air with a little flop sweat and shattered dreams stirred in

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:25:36 +0000

Doesn’t matter, icecream cake is the ultimate trump card.

By: ezthinking

ezthinking — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:23:28 +0000

and then bragged up his results.

By: anotheryx

anotheryx — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:22:26 +0000

I generally agree except one thing: cheesecake – the great debate is stuck in limbo unless we can resolve its definition and it’s proper alignment.

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:18:37 +0000

strawberry-rhubarb pie is closely related to cow chips

By: Tim OShenko

Tim OShenko — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:18:12 +0000

Did you miss the part where he said people have died for taking supplements similar to the one he was using, and that it’s been banned in pretty much every country except the U.S? And how he made sure to get his doctor’s approval before starting the drug?

Sounds to me like he was being fairly responsible about this experiment, and took the time to warn us readers about the dangers to using the supplement.

By: ezthinking

ezthinking — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:17:10 +0000

“280 foot flyouts turn into 310 foot flyouts.” or a blooper over the infield carries to the outfielder for an out, or a fastball loses movement and straights out and gets hit; or a foul to the screen turns into a pop up to the infield; or a fair ball is now pulled foul; or a swinging bunt turns into a one hop double play; and on and on and on.

It’s not all roses out there. Too much focus is placed on the ‘good’ results when in fact strength can produce a negative outcome.

By: Lukehart80

Lukehart80 — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:15:43 +0000

A one man experiment can’t tell us all that much, but even if it could, this doesn’t answer the question of what difference exists between what illegal supplements can do for you, compared to those that MLB players are allowed to take.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:15:22 +0000

Angel food is wonder bread in the face of strawberry-rhubarb pie

By: The Dangerous Mabry

The Dangerous Mabry — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:06:40 +0000

So he took a supplement which contained no anabolic steroids (no, pregnenolone is NOT an anabolic steroid) or HGH, which are the two products most commonly referred to as the “Bad PEDs” in the modern discourse, so we have no information (and many would argue that there’s limited information of value in this article) about the benefits they might provide.

What we do have here is anecdotal evidence that amphetamines provide energy and performance boosts.

Mostly, however, we have a guy who works out a lot losing weight and becoming healthier. This is hardly shocking.

By: shynessismyelguapo

shynessismyelguapo — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:02:54 +0000

Two fallacies about PEDs I feel:

1. That PEDs have an equal effect on everyone. I don’t see how anyone could possibly think this was true.

2. Even if they make everyone better, they wouldn’t make every baseball player equally better. And believe me, this is *extremely* simplified from the articles I’ve read about it, but: If player A and B both take equal amounts steriods and it causes them both to hit a ball 10% harder, it could have a much higher positive benefit on one player over the other. If player A is a slugger, that 10% could mean a lot more warning track fly balls end up in the stands. If player B is Al Newman, that just means some 280 foot flyouts turn into 310 foot flyouts.