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	<title>Comments on: NBC SportsTalk: Should Bud Selig block the Marlins-Blue Jays trade?</title>
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		<title>By: pastabelly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Sox fan who has no problem with the deal.  The Red Sox could have done a deal taking on salary and didn&#039;t.  Hopefully, they&#039;ve learned something since the Dodgers erased a good deal of Theo&#039;s mistakes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Sox fan who has no problem with the deal.  The Red Sox could have done a deal taking on salary and didn&#8217;t.  Hopefully, they&#8217;ve learned something since the Dodgers erased a good deal of Theo&#8217;s mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: bozosforall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bozosforall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no issue with the Jays trying to get better, unlike you jealous Boston fans. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no issue with the Jays trying to get better, unlike you jealous Boston fans. </p>
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		<title>By: northernhardball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[northernhardball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those deals were strictly for-cash transactions though, am I right? The Marlins are getting a decent player in Escobar, a major-league starter in Alvarez and two blue-chip prospects among other assets. Completely difference story. There is no precedent, nor any sound reason at all for that matter, to quash this deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those deals were strictly for-cash transactions though, am I right? The Marlins are getting a decent player in Escobar, a major-league starter in Alvarez and two blue-chip prospects among other assets. Completely difference story. There is no precedent, nor any sound reason at all for that matter, to quash this deal.</p>
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		<title>By: yuribeaul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yuribeaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Selig should have used his veto power long ago. As it stands now he&#039;ll look ridiculous if he vetoes this trade. Truth be told, he should accept the trade and then retire. Let the next commissioner of baseball fix the game. The Jays made a move, shrewd or poor, to try and better their team. In the short term, they probably are better. I just don&#039;t see how nixing this move accomplishes anything more than cries of conspiracy up in Canada. Let it sand, Bud. Let it stand and then retire. I hear Miami is nice this time of year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selig should have used his veto power long ago. As it stands now he&#8217;ll look ridiculous if he vetoes this trade. Truth be told, he should accept the trade and then retire. Let the next commissioner of baseball fix the game. The Jays made a move, shrewd or poor, to try and better their team. In the short term, they probably are better. I just don&#8217;t see how nixing this move accomplishes anything more than cries of conspiracy up in Canada. Let it sand, Bud. Let it stand and then retire. I hear Miami is nice this time of year.</p>
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		<title>By: yuribeaul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yuribeaul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Canadian, I won&#039;t apologize for Bieber or Celine.  These two &quot;artists&quot; are popular because Americans keep encouraging them. Celine works in Vegas. That&#039;s not Canada. And Bieber has hits because there&#039;s way more dumb preteen girls in the states (this is merely a comment on population) that keep buying his crap.  Also, any nation responsible for things such as the XFL and NASCAR really can&#039;t complain. I&#039;m not even going to mention your 600 &quot;talent search&quot; programs. Wait. I just did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Canadian, I won&#8217;t apologize for Bieber or Celine.  These two &#8220;artists&#8221; are popular because Americans keep encouraging them. Celine works in Vegas. That&#8217;s not Canada. And Bieber has hits because there&#8217;s way more dumb preteen girls in the states (this is merely a comment on population) that keep buying his crap.  Also, any nation responsible for things such as the XFL and NASCAR really can&#8217;t complain. I&#8217;m not even going to mention your 600 &#8220;talent search&#8221; programs. Wait. I just did.</p>
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		<title>By: bills4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bills4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, letting the Blue Jays have a sniff at possibly contending for a division crown would be such a crime. They will so much better than the Yankees, Orioles, Rays. Seriously, imagine any other division where you improve your club this much and you still have a small chance of winning your division.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, letting the Blue Jays have a sniff at possibly contending for a division crown would be such a crime. They will so much better than the Yankees, Orioles, Rays. Seriously, imagine any other division where you improve your club this much and you still have a small chance of winning your division.</p>
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		<title>By: cidminion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cidminion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no reason to stop this team from trading all these players. I&#039;m a die hard Marlins fan and what happened to this city should not be blamed on Loria. Your ELECTED officials gave the ok for that stadium deal. Loria may be a crook but the men in office are the real idiots in this mess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no reason to stop this team from trading all these players. I&#8217;m a die hard Marlins fan and what happened to this city should not be blamed on Loria. Your ELECTED officials gave the ok for that stadium deal. Loria may be a crook but the men in office are the real idiots in this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: elemeno89</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elemeno89]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think it may be time to put your tin foil hat back on...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it may be time to put your tin foil hat back on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: klownboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[klownboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bud needs to both kill that trade and contract the Marlins immediately.  I do not think the tens of Marlins fans would give a damn.
http://wp.me/p1gCK6-w3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bud needs to both kill that trade and contract the Marlins immediately.  I do not think the tens of Marlins fans would give a damn.<br />
<a href="http://wp.me/p1gCK6-w3" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/p1gCK6-w3</a></p>
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		<title>By: soxfan1966</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[soxfan1966]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a precendent that would allow Selig to overturn this trade -- Bowie Kuhn nixing Oakland Athletics owner Charlie Finley&#039;s sales of pitchers Vida Blue to the New York Yankees and Rollie Fingers and infielder Joe Rudi to the Boston Red Sox.  

At the time, Finley was attempting to sell off most (if not all) of his top stars in order to avoid losing them via the new phenomenon called &quot;free agency&quot;.  Finley was attempting to receive some measure of compensation rather than lose his best players for essentially nothing.  Kuhn nixed the transactions -- citing the league’s interest in maintaining competitive balance -- as being detrimental to the game&#039;s interests.  

Finley later filed a lawsuit against Kuhn but lost when the US Seventh Circuit Court determined that -- as league commissioner duly appointed by the MLB owners with the power of oversight -- Kuhn indeed had the authority to block the transactions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a precendent that would allow Selig to overturn this trade &#8212; Bowie Kuhn nixing Oakland Athletics owner Charlie Finley&#8217;s sales of pitchers Vida Blue to the New York Yankees and Rollie Fingers and infielder Joe Rudi to the Boston Red Sox.  </p>
<p>At the time, Finley was attempting to sell off most (if not all) of his top stars in order to avoid losing them via the new phenomenon called &#8220;free agency&#8221;.  Finley was attempting to receive some measure of compensation rather than lose his best players for essentially nothing.  Kuhn nixed the transactions &#8212; citing the league’s interest in maintaining competitive balance &#8212; as being detrimental to the game&#8217;s interests.  </p>
<p>Finley later filed a lawsuit against Kuhn but lost when the US Seventh Circuit Court determined that &#8212; as league commissioner duly appointed by the MLB owners with the power of oversight &#8212; Kuhn indeed had the authority to block the transactions.</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He has been a bane upon baseball for two decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has been a bane upon baseball for two decades.</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey; Shania Twain &amp; Caroline Dhavernas . We made up for Dion &amp; Bieber.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey; Shania Twain &amp; Caroline Dhavernas . We made up for Dion &amp; Bieber.</p>
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		<title>By: kehnn13</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kehnn13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The larger picture here is not about the individual teams, but about how this will affect major league baseball teams going forward. 
I would think that he could stop this trade for &quot;the good of major league basebal.&quot; If he doesn&#039;t, I expect the prospects for other teams wanting publicly funded stadiums have just been diminished markedly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The larger picture here is not about the individual teams, but about how this will affect major league baseball teams going forward.<br />
I would think that he could stop this trade for &#8220;the good of major league basebal.&#8221; If he doesn&#8217;t, I expect the prospects for other teams wanting publicly funded stadiums have just been diminished markedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Knutson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Knutson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t really matter what Selig should do, what matters is what he will do. He won&#039;t veto the trade because he is friends with Loria. Selig has an old boys club and Loria is in it. McCourt was in it too which is why he got the Dodgers and we all see how that turned out. Selig shouldn&#039;t do anything about the trade. He should step down for the good of the game. 
http://sfgiantsfansunite.blogspot.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter what Selig should do, what matters is what he will do. He won&#8217;t veto the trade because he is friends with Loria. Selig has an old boys club and Loria is in it. McCourt was in it too which is why he got the Dodgers and we all see how that turned out. Selig shouldn&#8217;t do anything about the trade. He should step down for the good of the game.<br />
<a href="http://sfgiantsfansunite.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sfgiantsfansunite.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gamera the Brave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gamera the Brave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[amplexus, eh?  Nice mental picture...
Thanks for the kick-ass &quot;Word of the Day&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amplexus, eh?  Nice mental picture&#8230;<br />
Thanks for the kick-ass &#8220;Word of the Day&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: willclarkgameface</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willclarkgameface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bud Selig is a slimy used car salesman and has encouraged, supported, and built this current system that is in place.  He can&#039;t turn his back on it now, philosophically or legally.  

He&#039;s the dick that is going to get in his own way and he may have just fucked the whole show up all on his own all the while thinking he was such a hero.

Bud Selig sucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bud Selig is a slimy used car salesman and has encouraged, supported, and built this current system that is in place.  He can&#8217;t turn his back on it now, philosophically or legally.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s the dick that is going to get in his own way and he may have just fucked the whole show up all on his own all the while thinking he was such a hero.</p>
<p>Bud Selig sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: henryd3rd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[henryd3rd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really feel sorry for John Farrell. He left what now appears to be a contender in the American League East to manage the Red Sox a pretender.

Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really feel sorry for John Farrell. He left what now appears to be a contender in the American League East to manage the Red Sox a pretender.</p>
<p>Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter Angelos is almost a genius.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Angelos is almost a genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, isn&#039;t that the logical conclusion to a career that began by exploiting Vincent Price&#039;s taste in etchings for Sears?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, isn&#8217;t that the logical conclusion to a career that began by exploiting Vincent Price&#8217;s taste in etchings for Sears?</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve actually been to the Ann Murray museum in Springhill NS. Trust me, Bieber and Dion don&#039;t even &lt;i&gt;rank&lt;/i&gt;. Plus, Donald Southerland and the cabbage borscht at Caplansky&#039;s atone for a multitude of sins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually been to the Ann Murray museum in Springhill NS. Trust me, Bieber and Dion don&#8217;t even <i>rank</i>. Plus, Donald Southerland and the cabbage borscht at Caplansky&#8217;s atone for a multitude of sins.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scrooge McLoria definitely has Macondo in amplexus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrooge McLoria definitely has Macondo in amplexus.</p>
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		<title>By: b453841l</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trade should stand, but Loria should not. Selig should use the &quot;best interest of baseball&quot; authority to slap Loria with some massive fines to provide him with some financial disincentive to act like a robber baron. As pointed out above, he is getting rewarded for misleading the fans. After his organization benefited from duping the public into sinking hundreds of millions of dollars to benefit his business, he is basically cutting and running. I would say that his action is tantamount to fraud. I don&#039;t know that anyone with a net worth of under 1 billion really respects Selig, but he has to realize that Loria&#039;s behavior is reprehensible and cannot continue unchecked. 

The situation in Minnesota is a similar although far less egregious. After two years at Target Field, the Twins are not competitive and payroll is shrinking. With their situation, they have committed money to some decent players--they were basically forced to commit 20-25% of their payroll to Mauer or face a anti-Loriaesque revolt from fans--but all of the players they invest heavily in seem to get injured. Their once serviceable rotation was also ravaged by injuries and ineffectiveness.  When you know you aren&#039;t going to be competitive, it does make sense to dump your expensive quality players in an attempt to build for the future. As Dayton Moore is proving in KC, &quot;trusting the process&quot; becomes very difficult when it is protracted over a decade. For the Twins, maybe now 3 years after the new stadium, with a shitty team, it makes sense to build for the future. In Miami, one year after, not so much...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade should stand, but Loria should not. Selig should use the &#8220;best interest of baseball&#8221; authority to slap Loria with some massive fines to provide him with some financial disincentive to act like a robber baron. As pointed out above, he is getting rewarded for misleading the fans. After his organization benefited from duping the public into sinking hundreds of millions of dollars to benefit his business, he is basically cutting and running. I would say that his action is tantamount to fraud. I don&#8217;t know that anyone with a net worth of under 1 billion really respects Selig, but he has to realize that Loria&#8217;s behavior is reprehensible and cannot continue unchecked. </p>
<p>The situation in Minnesota is a similar although far less egregious. After two years at Target Field, the Twins are not competitive and payroll is shrinking. With their situation, they have committed money to some decent players&#8211;they were basically forced to commit 20-25% of their payroll to Mauer or face a anti-Loriaesque revolt from fans&#8211;but all of the players they invest heavily in seem to get injured. Their once serviceable rotation was also ravaged by injuries and ineffectiveness.  When you know you aren&#8217;t going to be competitive, it does make sense to dump your expensive quality players in an attempt to build for the future. As Dayton Moore is proving in KC, &#8220;trusting the process&#8221; becomes very difficult when it is protracted over a decade. For the Twins, maybe now 3 years after the new stadium, with a shitty team, it makes sense to build for the future. In Miami, one year after, not so much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the trade shouldn&#039;t be blocked--it&#039;s MLB&#039;s and the owners&#039; own stupid fault they&#039;re in this position--but it&#039;s also not case closed. &quot;A last place team traded highly paid players for decent prospects.&quot; In context, it&#039;s just not that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the trade shouldn&#8217;t be blocked&#8211;it&#8217;s MLB&#8217;s and the owners&#8217; own stupid fault they&#8217;re in this position&#8211;but it&#8217;s also not case closed. &#8220;A last place team traded highly paid players for decent prospects.&#8221; In context, it&#8217;s just not that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guilty as sin over here, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilty as sin over here, too.</p>
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		<title>By: forsch31</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gah...need edit function.

&quot;..or they begin to move to a straight Moneyball operation,&quot;

&quot;...an obvious abuse of MLB&#039;s relationships with the communities they operate in.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah&#8230;need edit function.</p>
<p>&#8220;..or they begin to move to a straight Moneyball operation,&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;an obvious abuse of MLB&#8217;s relationships with the communities they operate in.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: forsch31</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hyprocrisy is say one thing, act the opposite. The problem is, Selig hasn&#039;t said anything about Loria, but he&#039;s given his implicit approval of him by allowing the Montreal-to-Miami fiasco happen. His additional problem is that he intervened with the Dodgers &quot;for the good of baseball,&quot; while he&#039;s allowed Loria to destroy one franchise to the point of moving it and has left him alone in doing whatever he wants in Miami. It&#039;s already hyprocrisy.

To be perfectly honest, it shouldn&#039;t matter at this point. There&#039;s been other instances of owners getting in over their heads (the Chicago Cubs last decade spring to mind), but usually in those cases they either sell or they begin to straight Moneyball operation, cleaning out their rosters every couple of seasons to clear salary space and relying on their farm systems to remain somewhat competitive. But Loria isn&#039;t really doing either. He&#039;s not going to sell, and he really doesn&#039;t have a plan or management structure in place that&#039;s necessary to run a Moneyball team. He went all in last year, making bigtime free agent signings to justify the new stadium being handed to him. Now, after a single bad season, he has off loaded those same free agents and cut his roster salary to ridiculous levels. In a vacuum, the trade looks like a normal firesale--overpaid veterans exchanged for promising prospect talent, which is the main reason why the trade won&#039;t be and shouldn&#039;t be blocked. But taken in the context of when those veterans were signed, the new publicily funded stadium to generate revenue, the ownership&#039;s instance on competing right up until the moment the trade was made, the abnormally extreme lengths of the salary cuts...this has become an obvious abuse of MLB&#039;s relationships with the communities .

And that&#039;s why Selig needs to step in, regardless of his support of Loria in the past. What Loria has done to MLB is that he&#039;s pretty much spoiled any trust between the league and public officials. Yeah, there are plenty of other instances of encouraging franchises to get publically funded stadiums. But those deals differ from city to city, and not every franchise got their community to foot the majority of the bill, and some have justified the risk. With this latest firesale and the timing of it, Loria has completely abused the privilege, and if Selig allows Loria to continue to operate, the spector of Marlins Park will be, and should be, raised whenever a team requests public funding for a new park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyprocrisy is say one thing, act the opposite. The problem is, Selig hasn&#8217;t said anything about Loria, but he&#8217;s given his implicit approval of him by allowing the Montreal-to-Miami fiasco happen. His additional problem is that he intervened with the Dodgers &#8220;for the good of baseball,&#8221; while he&#8217;s allowed Loria to destroy one franchise to the point of moving it and has left him alone in doing whatever he wants in Miami. It&#8217;s already hyprocrisy.</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, it shouldn&#8217;t matter at this point. There&#8217;s been other instances of owners getting in over their heads (the Chicago Cubs last decade spring to mind), but usually in those cases they either sell or they begin to straight Moneyball operation, cleaning out their rosters every couple of seasons to clear salary space and relying on their farm systems to remain somewhat competitive. But Loria isn&#8217;t really doing either. He&#8217;s not going to sell, and he really doesn&#8217;t have a plan or management structure in place that&#8217;s necessary to run a Moneyball team. He went all in last year, making bigtime free agent signings to justify the new stadium being handed to him. Now, after a single bad season, he has off loaded those same free agents and cut his roster salary to ridiculous levels. In a vacuum, the trade looks like a normal firesale&#8211;overpaid veterans exchanged for promising prospect talent, which is the main reason why the trade won&#8217;t be and shouldn&#8217;t be blocked. But taken in the context of when those veterans were signed, the new publicily funded stadium to generate revenue, the ownership&#8217;s instance on competing right up until the moment the trade was made, the abnormally extreme lengths of the salary cuts&#8230;this has become an obvious abuse of MLB&#8217;s relationships with the communities .</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why Selig needs to step in, regardless of his support of Loria in the past. What Loria has done to MLB is that he&#8217;s pretty much spoiled any trust between the league and public officials. Yeah, there are plenty of other instances of encouraging franchises to get publically funded stadiums. But those deals differ from city to city, and not every franchise got their community to foot the majority of the bill, and some have justified the risk. With this latest firesale and the timing of it, Loria has completely abused the privilege, and if Selig allows Loria to continue to operate, the spector of Marlins Park will be, and should be, raised whenever a team requests public funding for a new park.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ouch! You forgot to add Celine Dion to our list of sins!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch! You forgot to add Celine Dion to our list of sins!</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course I am biased. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I am biased. </p>
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		<title>By: Francisco (FC)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Stopping the trade punishes the Jays and helps the Yankees and Red Sox. MLB screwed Montreal and now some people want MLB to screw Toronto. Come off it. A last place team traded highly paid players for decent prospects. Case closed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You wouldn&#039;t be so blase about it if this were the Orioles or Red Sox. Tell me you&#039;re not biased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Stopping the trade punishes the Jays and helps the Yankees and Red Sox. MLB screwed Montreal and now some people want MLB to screw Toronto. Come off it. A last place team traded highly paid players for decent prospects. Case closed.</p></blockquote>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t be so blase about it if this were the Orioles or Red Sox. Tell me you&#8217;re not biased.</p>
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