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Selig says the Marlins trade is “under review”

Nov 15, 2012, 12:29 PM EDT

A tweet from USA Today’s Bob Nightengale at the owners meetings:

Before you get all excited, remember that Selig says that every single matter that ever comes to his attention is “being considered” or is “under review” and most of the time nothing comes of it. Selig is excellent at communicating his awareness that something controversial has happened. Rarely, if ever, however, does he wade into things and blow them up.  Which, to be fair, is usually the right course of action. Baseball is not made better by Selig being some activist commissioner like Roger Goodell or David Stern. Conservatism in a conservative institution is almost always best.

And in this case, as I argued this morning, I highly doubt anything comes of it. Nor should it.  Even if Bud is going to play the “I feel your pain, Marlins fans” game for a couple of days.

  1. cur68 - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    This Beaver Fan certainly hopes Selig stays the hell out of it. I do realize that it might be in baseball’s best interests for Selig to put his foot on Loria’s fat neck BUT I’m looking out for My Boys. And My Boys just got Jose Reyes if this goes through. Yeah baby.

    • natslady - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      Agree it would be unfair to the Blue Jays to nix the trade, which the Jays went into knowing what they were spending. But can Selig force Loria out of MLB? MLB is in the entertainment business, after all. And, by the way, about Angelos and the Nats’ TV rights, how’s that coming along, Bud?

      • Gamera the Brave - Nov 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM

        World’s Most Awesome National Animal? Which one?
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16219305
        Time to choose a new mascot in the States, I think – my vote’s for Megatherium Americanum. Really embodies what America stands for…

    • source7769 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:15 PM

      you say that now but wait till his legs get on that turf you will be lucky to get 100 games out of him , add to that he wants no part of canada

      • cur68 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

        Reyes’ legs on grass were no effin picnic. All of his injuries happened on grass, not turf. His legs on turf might actually be an improvement for him, but we’ll see. As to him not wanting any “part of Canada”, says who? In fact, the franchise players say they want no part of is…The Florida Marlins.

      • source7769 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM

        lol since when is turf better for your legs? you just made my point clearer and to the fact he doesnt want to be in canada ever guess why he signed in miami besides of course the money ?

      • cur68 - Nov 15, 2012 at 2:48 PM

        er…what? Try some punctuation in there, bubba. Uh…insofar as I can decipher what you are saying: he singed in Miami for the $$$. Also, the large Dominican population helped. BUT guess who’s from The Dominican, mashes a lot of bombs, and is on a team still dishing the same $$$? Edwin Encarnacion & Jose Bautista. Add to that: a first class front office, no drama GM-ing, The Worlds Most Awesome National Animal, and some teammates from his last team coming with him. The turf? We’ll see. I’m not so sure why anyone thinks grass helps Reyes. All grass has done is injure him. Grass hasn’t a leg to stand on.

      • Francisco (FC) - Nov 15, 2012 at 3:00 PM

        So basically you’re saying that in order for a Canadian team to compete they need to have the Dominican National Baseball Team on its roster? :D (I kid)

      • cur68 - Nov 15, 2012 at 3:10 PM

        Dominicans ROCK at baseball (and kidnapping. 2nd only to Venezuelans in that). I’d welcome the DR National team with grinning beavers and buckets of maple syrup.

      • Gamera the Brave - Nov 15, 2012 at 4:01 PM

        Oops, put my reply to cur in the wrong spot…
        World’s Most Awesome National Animal? Which one?
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16219305
        Time to choose a new mascot in the States, I think – my vote’s for Megatherium Americanum. Really embodies what America stands for…

      • cur68 - Nov 15, 2012 at 4:13 PM

        No one who’s gone up against an irritated beaver thinks they aren’t tough. Polar Bears eat garbage and carrion. They only look good. Only the feeble minded fall for that. Beavers are bad ass.

    • bozosforall - Nov 15, 2012 at 10:53 PM

      This Yankee fan agrees with you, cur…but just this one time.

  2. Bruce Knutson - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Don’t get your hopes up baseball fans. He can’t veto this one because it isn’t as bad as the Dodgers/Red Sox trade. Besides it is Selig’s review of his friends trade.
    http://sfgiantsfansunite.blogspot.com/

    • danandcasey - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

      I find the Red Sox/Dodgers trade and the Marlins/Blue Jays trade comparable when you look solely at the trades themselves. I do not think that is the issue here. I think the issue is what is left of the team dumping salary after the trade. The Red Sox still had a core set of players left while arguably, the Marlins do not.

      I do not think Selig should invoke the “best interests of baseball” and nullify the deal. I think he should somehow place the Marlins on double secret probation and ensure that profit sharing money is put back into the club as it is suppose to be and otherwise steps are taken to rebuild the team, rather than let it languish for years while Loria lines his pocket.

  3. Old Gator - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    The other two photos show Bud Light covering his eyes with his hands and his ears with his hands.

  4. normcash - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    In retrospect, Loria probably wishes his execs hadn’t talked him into those big contracts last year.
    If he’d just stayed with the players he had, the Marlins record probably wouldn’t have been much
    worse and he wouldn’t be getting hammered as a scam artist who ripped off Miami taxpayers
    and then dumped salary. Instead, he’d merely be regarded as a scam artist never even tried
    to reward the taxpayers with a winning team—a marginally better position to be in I suppose,
    because the scam would seem somewhat less duplicitous.

    • source7769 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

      loria doesnt get the stadium if he didnt sign those guys

      • Old Gator - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

        Sounds like you just stepped out of a chronosynclastic infundibulum. He “got” the stadium about four years ago.

      • paperlions - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM

        They already had the stadium.

    • Old Gator - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM

      Norm (and thanks for naming yourself after one of my childhood heroes – he signed a ball for me outside the old Yankee Stadium and chatted amiably about what a pain in the ass it always was to be chasing the Borg in the standings more years ago than I could count) – from everything I’ve read in the local spawrts press by the Feesh beat reporters (so called for the same reason that Kerouac, Cassidy et al called themselves “beat,” no doubt), Scrooge McLoria the self-appointed savant specifically instructed the notochord trust to go after Heath Bell, and the hiring of Slobbering Ozzie was his call all the way. I’ve read mixed signals about which of them was reponsible for the truly idiotic John Buck contract, but the gist of it its that Scrooge was all in on that one too.

      • normcash - Nov 15, 2012 at 2:01 PM

        I loved Norm Cash too…great guy, outstanding player…all those rockets into the
        upper deck in rightfield—or over it!

  5. rynev - Nov 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Bud is still reviewing whether the A’s can move to San Jose, right? I’d expect a decision as to whether the trade is allowed by sometime in 2016.

    • paperlions - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

      So soon?

    • Old Gator - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Is that 2016 in Karellan cosmic circuit time?

  6. bigleagues - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    That, and CEO Selig needs to accept a good chunk of the responsibility for Loria being an owner in the first place.

  7. joshfrancis50 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    I’m just not sure why this should be overturned. Should he be forced to pay a ton of money to a team he believes can’t compete? I don’t think anyone would argue that. As others have pointed out; its a legitimate rebuilding strategy.

    It seems most of the consternation is coming from how he deceived taxpayers to get funding for a new stadium. Well, that seems out of the jurisdiction of Almighty Bud. From a baseball point of view, he’s playing in-bounds, regardless of past transgressions. If the city of Miami and/or Miami-Dade County or whoever the hell is footing the bill wants to take umbrage with Mr. Loria in a legal battle they should do so, but I can’t see how baseball overrules this.

    I’d be interested to know, also, how much tax dollars the Miami Marlins and Loria (the individual) contribute locally and to the state. I’m asking in earnest, so don’t kill me for this, but is it possible the economic impact of having the team in town outweighs the cost of the publicly funded stadium?

    I don’t agree with the concept of aiding a bazillionaire build a playhouse for his toys, but, even with the public funding, are the people of Florida and, more specifically, those local to Miami, better off by having the stadium there and not having had the Marlins relocate?

    What is also interesting, and I don’t like defending Loria, is that he got the money to fund the stadium before his spending spree last year, so it isn’t like he just did it to lure the voters in and then spurn them. He was slashing payroll long before and the public still approved the funding, so to say that he’s duped the city isn’t exactly accurate, is it?

    End of Rant

  8. randygnyc - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    This trade is the last straw for one of baseballs 30 franchises. It will have an historical impact on baseball for many years. The fraud is clear. There aren’t any players who would now willfully sign there. The few fans they had aren’t coming back. But most importantly, advertisers will flee the marlins as if they are lepers.

    Sometimes things happens that under ordinary circumstances, are criticized and then forgotten. Other times, similar circumstances occur that push the needle past the tipping point. A bridge too far, so to speak. This is that time.

  9. willclarkgameface - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Bud will approve Bud’s system and let Bud look good while Bud thinks about things over and over and over and over and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Wake him up from his nap someone.

  10. ryanrockzzz - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    I don’t think the trade should be overturned, however I do think comish’ Bud sould consider some more extensive future action in Florida. It would be different if Loria and his history was not one of blowing up the team, and starting from scratch on a hungry budget. This is fundementally how Loria feels he has to run a franchise that struggles with attendence and marketability.
    With those two facts being stated however, there is no way the MLB should have supported and no way the Florida governmental officials should have approved a publically funded stadium. Not only are the taxpayers contriubting to the finest AAAA team the league can offer, but teams like the Rays now must face facts that they may never get a stadium unless it almost certainly privately funded.
    Also, the MLB has continually looked the other way with revenue sharing, and how Loria has abused this privalege over the years.
    One of the principals this game is based on is integrity, and right now it has come out that neither Loria or the MLB has had any concerning Marlins baseball for a while….so hopefully down the road that will change.

  11. tcostant - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    Hey Bud – how about an update on the MASN rights fee dispute between the O’s and the Nat’s. In july at the All-Star game you said you wanted that resolsed “yesterday”; what’s the rush?

  12. barroomhero80 - Nov 15, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Him and stern are bed buddies and idiots

  13. sidelineshot - Nov 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM

    Don’t bash Miami just yet.
    The Marlins are getting a load of top prospects who may be ready for the Varsity team.

    It may turn out to be fun to watch.

  14. husky2score - Nov 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Wait a minute I thought he said there was no such thing as Instant Replay in baseball?

  15. Francisco (FC) - Nov 15, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    What we really need is for Loria to sell the Marlins and with the proceeds buy himself a football team…

  16. jaybird22seven - Nov 15, 2012 at 4:05 PM

    After agreeing to the Dodgers/Red sox deal, there is no way he can say anything about this deal. This deal is fair on both ends. There are owners that are pissed they couldn’t get in on this deal. And the American East just got more interesting. Oh ya suck it Boston!!!

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