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Blue Jays sign Melky Cabrera to two-year, $16 million deal

Nov 16, 2012, 2:04 PM EST

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In case there was any doubt left that the Blue Jays are pulling out all the stops following their blockbuster trade with the Marlins earlier this week, now Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com reports that Toronto has signed free agent outfielder Melky Cabrera to a two-year, $16 million contract.

Cabrera got the All-Star game MVP and was hitting .346 in 113 games for the Giants when he was suspended 50 games in August for a performance-enhancing drug and despite being eligible to return during the playoffs San Francisco opted to leave him off the postseason roster.

Without the positive drug test and subsequent suspension a 28-year-old switch-hitting outfielder coming off a breakout season would obviously have been in line for significantly more than a two-year, $16 million deal, so it’s certainly an interesting gamble for the Blue Jays that has plenty of upside.

Cabrera had a mediocre track record prior to 2011, but hit .305 with 18 homers, 44 doubles, and a career-high .809 OPS in 155 games for the Royals that year and then took his production to another level for the Giants. Combined during the past two years he played 268 games and hit .322 with an .849 OPS that ranked 13th among all outfielders over that span.

He joins a Blue Jays lineup that suddenly looks very dangerous with Jose Reyes in the leadoff spot and Cabrera, Jose Bautista, and Edwin Encarnacion doing damage in the middle, with Brett Lawrie, Colby Rasmus, J.P. Arencibia, and Adam Lind around them.

  1. cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Uh. Wut? WTF? Melky? MELKY????Uh…I do not know what to say….

    • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:23 PM

      Ok. I’ve got my faeces back in a heap. Melky. Totally ambivalent about this guy. I could give a crap about PEDs use. Lots of players cheat in one form or another.

      I guess it depends too much on how good he will be and if can avoid being an ass. He wasn’t terribly impressive prior to last season, and last season he was a bit of an ass in some respects. Have The Beav got “Impressive Melky, Less an Ass”, or have they got “Unimpressive Melky, Less an Ass”? What if they have “Pretty Good Melky, But Even More an Ass”? The worst would be “Terrible Melky, Total Ass”. I could live with, while totally despising myself for it, “Monster Good Melky, Total Ass” though. All in all I’m pretty conflicted on Melky but no matter what, I hope he isn’t going to be an ass this upcoming season.

      • missthemexpos - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM

        Without doubt, the most ass I have ever seen in just one paragraph.

    • proudlycanadian - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

      Hold your nose I guess. That is what I have just decided to do.The Jays are going all in. One more starting pitcher to hire. Come on down Mr. Marcum.

      • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM

        Ayup. Nose being held. Marcum? Sure. I’d prefer Grienke. But at this point they could stand pat on the player side of things and get a manager. A good manager guy might attract Grienke’s interest.

      • byjiminy - Nov 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM

        I hope he’s not too much of an ass, so you can stop holding your nose again

      • theskinsman - Nov 17, 2012 at 5:41 AM

        Good for the Jays.And their fans. Ignore the PED posts,the Jays would have to sign a boatload of former/current users to catch the Yanks.

  2. uyf1950 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    It will be interesting to see which Melky shows up for the Jays. The mediocre Melky that played for the Yankees and the Braves OR the “other Melky that may have been helped by products that increased in performance this past year. Just my opinion but I’m guessing the mediocre Melky shows up.

    • indaburg - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM

      I hope mediocre Melky shows up.

      • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM

        Jealousy an ugly emotion.

      • indaburg - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:39 PM

        I am more wistful more than I am jealous.

      • paperlions - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:42 PM

        And curvy, don’t forget curvy.

      • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:42 PM

        Your tears, should Anthopolous acquire Dave Martinez as manager, will nourish me.

      • Jeremy T - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:48 PM

        The Blue Jays, for the first time in recent memory, are actually starting to scare me. AA has been one of the top GMs in the league for a while, but they’ve been hovering on the brink of dangerous for the last 5 years or so. Now it seems like they’re making a strong push. Combined with the talent level of the rest of the division, and the ever-increasing age of the Yankees, I’m worried that this might finally be the year the Yanks are knocked off their perch. Now, there have been a lot of people making that prediction for the last few years, so I’m still optimistic Cashman will continue his dark sorcery, sign a few bit pieces that perform well, and squeeze more production out of Pettitte, Rivera, and Jeter, but Baltimore, Tampa, and Toronto are all quite good, and I never feel comfortable counting out the Red Sox. Should be an interesting season. It sucks that we still have to wait 5 months for it to start :)

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM

      It’s possible, but remember he was really young with the Yanks. The last two years, where he’s shown significant improvement, have been his age 26/27 seasons. Blue Jays are stocking the team, next year is going to be fun.

    • thereisaparty - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM

      Does Royals Melky not exist? It seems more likely that he’ll perform like a solid player in his prime years than an enigmatic 21-23yo. There is more than PEDs to his improved performance, like a typical aging curve for instance.

    • badintent - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:25 PM

      Call Tiger’s Canadian doctor, the one that got busted at the border with HGH. He’ll have a new customer.

  3. thomas2727 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    It should be very interesting when the Blue Jays visit AT&T Park on June 4-5, 2013.

    Melky acted like a jerk when the Giants visited Atlanta in 2012.

    I suspect the fans know the 2012 Giants players did not like how Melky bolted after getting suspended. So I expect him to be booed the whole game.

    I think it would be awesome if the Giants would present him with a World Series Ring before the June 4th. But there is no way that will ever happen.

    • clydeserra - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM

      serious question:

      Since suspended players are banned from the clubhouse, why were the Giants so bothered that he didn’t say goodbye?

      • thomas2727 - Nov 16, 2012 at 6:53 PM

        The underlying message from the Giants whether real or perceived is Melky is not welcome back with the team and the fans are merely parroting that message.

        He did had a way to communicate with his Giants teammates if he wanted to regardless of access to the clubhouse.

        I saw many Giants players interviewed after the Melky suspension. And almost all of the interviews seemed to turn uncomfortable when the subject of Melky came up.

        The Giants “history” with PEDs is well documented. So it sure seems to me there is more to the story than was told to the public.

        Melky went from the guy traded for Jonathan Sanchez to loved by the fan base within 2 months. There were grown men dressing up in MelkMen Outfits for goodness sake.

  4. paint771 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

    asdfmk,masdr,meade

    /falls over

  5. paint771 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Next up, by the way, is signing Marcum, which I really do guess they do.

  6. missthemexpos - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    Wow,who will be next, Greinke?

  7. btwicey - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Great sign for both parties, he’s money on the field

  8. kkolchak - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Word of caution: the Blue Jays could be setting themselves up to become 2013’s version of the 2012 Marlins, with a lot of the same players no less.

    • paint771 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:29 PM

      Quick, someone build us a new stadium!

    • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:30 PM

      Some of the same players, not a lot. Reyes, Beuhrle, Johnson, Buck and Bonifacio. Don’t expect the last 2 to be around long unless they produce. The first 2 are pretty damn good. Johnson has a great season in him and will get to work with Bruce Walton, the guy who remade Brandon Morrow. John Buck has been a Beav before and, under the guidance of Duane Murphy, was a good hitter. He fell right off once he became a Feesh. Add to that, Alex Anthopolous is NOT David Samson.

      This is all leading to something: A Manager. Looking at these moves, this team . . . it becomes obvious that Anthopolous is going to make one hell of a splash with his managerial choice.

      • nbjays - Nov 16, 2012 at 8:59 PM

        As long as it isn’t Ozzie or Bobby Valentine, I’m good with it…

    • Paul Zummo - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:40 PM

      I was basically going to say the same thing. Off-season player binges like this almost never turn out well.

      • paint771 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

        …except when the Blue Jays do it, in which case they tend to do pretty well. This feels a lot like the Jays push in the early 90s. I agree with you in spirit though.

        One thing to note though – the Jays have actually done a very good job of developing a strong, young core (with some pretty damn good waves of minor league depth) and solid organization. So it’s not like they’re doing it to paper over weakness or cover an aging squad – they’re taking several years of very hard building work, and at precisely the right time bumping payroll (by 52$ million a year so far) – which isn’t money they don’t have, btw, it’s finally matching payroll to market size and owner purse.

        So yes, of course, you are right – but that also isn’t to say this isn’t the right move, at the right time, for an organization at the kind of crossroads Toronto is at.

    • smoothmartiniup - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM

      That may be true. Then Toronto will have a fire sale at the end of next season. Hey, maybe Loria can but the team and then he can be responsible for ruining baseball in all of Canada

  9. randygnyc - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Blue jays are all in. AL East has 4 teams that could easily have the 4 best records in the American League. Both wild cards will come from the east, GUARANTEED.

    • humanexcrement - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:25 PM

      Just remember, the season NEVER actually plays out the way it looks like it will in the offseason. Otherwise, we would have had a Red Sox-Phillies World Series in ’11. One could have just as easily said the same thing about the AL East this past season, but it didn’t happen.

    • mazblast - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:51 PM

      I’m curious about these “guarantees”. If, as, and when you are proven wrong, what are the consequences for you? I’d like to see players who guarantee victory have to cough up their game’s pay if they lose, but what do you, as a Knight of the Internet, pledge to give if you are wrong?

      • Francisco (FC) - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

        but what do you, as a Knight of the Internet, pledge to give if you are wrong?

        He should STFU

      • randygnyc - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        I pledge to continue offering my opinions and prognostications. And it pleases me that this is exactly opposite to what Rico (FC) requests.

      • indaburg - Nov 16, 2012 at 6:55 PM

        That’s Mr. Suave to you, randy.

    • pdowdy83 - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:32 PM

      You do realize that all those “great” teams have to play each other a ton during the regular season which diminishes the chances that 4 teams will have superb records. Somebody has to lose when they play each other. This is how teams from other divisions get into the playoffs.

      If any division is going to get both wild card slots, as unlikely as it is, that division would be the AL West. They had 3 teams last season that posted better records than the Tigers and already managed to get 2 teams into the playoffs. Now with the added bonus of those 3 teams getting a chance to play the Astros a lot their records should rise a notch.

  10. dkphilly1122 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    For once I can’t agree more with Randy. The AL East is gonna the toughest division to win next year with the next two teams taking the Wild cards for sure. I like the new look Jays and they gave Jose Bautista someone else that they gotta pitch to so hopefully he gets rewarded. Dudes a beast!!

    • clydeserra - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      Are the rays better? The Orioles? the Red sox? the Yankees?

      I don’t think you can say this right now. So far Detroit and Toronto have made significant moves (and additions like Victor Martinez)

      In the West the Rangers and Angles are just as good right now as they were at the end of the year, i expect the Angles to go big after pitching. Who knows what the A’s are going to be like next year.

      Sure I can see someone argue that two AL East teams WILL make it, but saying three is kinda silly

  11. natslady - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Since there’s been some discussion about whether sports writers understand math (and since this guy is an ex-GM), I though I’d show you an example of faulty logic.

    JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm
    Melky Cabrera gets 2yrs $16m from Toronto. Had he not tested postive for PED’s he would have gotten 4 X $14m ($56m)…paid price approx $40m

    Now, unless Melky is retiring in two years, you can’t conclude the PEDs cost him $40MM. You could conclude he lost $12 MM (2 x 8 vs. 2 x 14). Maybe.

    • natstowngreg - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM

      Not sure Bowden is a good example. Unless it’s a good example of not being good. :)

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:34 PM

        He may be an idiot, but look at last year’s FA column where he guesses who signs with who for how much. He was uncanny in his ability to predict it.

      • natslady - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM

        Couldn’t resis, natstowngreg. SO glad he’s gone!

      • natstowngreg - Nov 16, 2012 at 6:58 PM

        Guessing FA destinations is one thing. Building a winning team is another.

  12. kiwicricket - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    If he plays anything like he did the last 2 seasons, that is an absolute bargain. Some other schmuck can sign him for a huge contract at age 30+, getting in and out quickly is probably the best option in this situation. Some teams are paying crappy closers this type of money.
    Can’t say I will cheer for him, but it’s a great signing for the Jays.

  13. bowens3181 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    Pitching is still the big question but there’s no way this lineup is not instantly one of, if not the most feared lineup in baseball. They have a great leadoff man, 2 guys easily capable of 40 HR seasons, and a plethora of other great hitters. Even the guy who projects as the weakest player in the lineup in Lind has shown the capability to drive in 100+ RBIs in a season. My biggest fear at this point is that this team is subjected to the same fate as the Tigers the year after they acquired D-Train and Miggy from Florida, were predicted to blow away the rest off baseball, and promptly shat the bed and missed the playoffs.

    • bowens3181 - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM

      Quick follow-up. 2013 projected lineup according to Sportsnet:

      1. Jose Reyes, SS – 2012: .287 BA/.347 OBP/.433 SLG, 11 HR, 57 RBI, 2.8 WAR

      2. Melky Cabrera, LF – 2012: .346/.390/.516, 11 HR, 60 RBI, 4.7 WAR

      3. Jose Bautista, RF – 2012: .241/.358/.527, 27 HR, 65 RBI, 3.2 WAR

      4. Edwin Encarnacion, DH – 2012: .280/.384/.557, 42 HR, 110 RBI, 4.6 WAR

      5. Brett Lawrie, 3B – 2012: .273/.324/.405, 11 HR, 48 RBI, 4.1 WAR

      6. J.P. Arencibia, C – 2012: .233/.275/.435, 18 HR, 56 RBI, 1.4 WAR

      7. Colby Rasmus, CF – 2012: .223/.289/.400, 23 HR, 75 RBI, 1.4 WAR

      8. Adam Lind, 1B – 2012: .255/.314/.414, 11 HR, 45 RBI, 0.0 WAR

      9. Maicer Izturis, 2B – 2012: .256/.320/.315, 2 HR, 20 RBI, 0.1 WAR

      Thats obviously before any more moves, and I also think Bonifacio will be the starter at 2B on Opening Day, but that is one scary lineup, and the bench, which will have some combination of Buck, Bonifacio, Davis, Izturis, etc. on it, will be one of the deepest and most versatile in the game.

      Suffice to say I am very excited.
      Wary, but excited nonetheless.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:57 PM

        That’s a bad bottom half of the order. It’s stacked at the top (note if Reyes is healthy* and Cabrera stays to form), but 6-7-8-9 aren’t good, let alone great, hitters.

        *He’s got a history of leg injuries, and playing on 81 games of turf can’t be good for that which (I haven’t seen) anyone bring up.

      • bowens3181 - Nov 16, 2012 at 5:26 PM

        Don’t really understand how you can claim that they’re 6-7-8 hitters aren’t good. I get they they wouldn’t be amazing options if they were hitting at the top of the order, but they wouldn’t be awful ones either, and compared to many other 6 or 7 hitters in the league, Arencibia and Rasmus have to be considered at least above average. Lind is obviously a wild card, but wouldn’t shock me if was no longer on the team by the time the season started, and they instead found a way to get 2 of Bonifacio, Izturis, and Davis in the lineup at the same time, giving them not only one of the most powerful lineups in the AL with Joey Bats and EE, but probably the most dangerous on the base paths, with Reyes, Bonifacio, and Davis all easily capable of 40 SB, and Melky, Lawrie, and Rasmus all have 20 SB potential.

      • bowens3181 - Nov 16, 2012 at 5:27 PM

        THEIR”””” NOT THEY’RE 6-7-8 HITTERS!

        Damn typos

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 16, 2012 at 6:43 PM

        Don’t really understand how you can claim that they’re 6-7-8 hitters aren’t good

        Because they are bad. JP Arencibia, in 242 games has walked a total of 56 times (4.8BB%). He has a career 88 OPS+ which is entirely due to his SLG. There’s exactly zero reason he should ever be thrown a pitch in the zone.

        In 151 games last year, Colby Rasmus put up a .223/.289/.400 line for an 85 OPS+. He put up a 1.4 rWAR because he was credit 1.0 rWAR on defense.

        Adam Lind hasn’t put up a 100+ OPS+ since ’09, and, just like the two I mentioned in front, he doesn’t walk a lot. Izturis follows a similar pattern.

        One oddity is that of Arencibia, Rasmus and Lind, they are hit roughly the same at home as they do away. It’s odd because Tor plays in a big hitters park. Rasmus, in fact, hits much better away than at home (sss warning do to checking one season).

  14. husky2score - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    My prediction: The Blue Jays will suck because teams that get several All-Star players at one time do not make the playoffs. Remember the Red Sox 2 years ago. Last year Marlins. This year it was the Angels. Next year, it will be the Blue Jays.

    • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      Stop thumbing the guy down. It smacks of “I hate you! You say what I fear so I hate you! Waaaaaaaaaa!”. He’s got a point. But, even a casual fan knows that there are plenty of teams who made big FA & trade splashes and were miles better the next season due to it. He cites the Angels: they were awesomely good last season but didn’t make it due to the rest of the division being awesomely good, too. The Tigers were good due to some big FA splashes. Once upon a time, the Phillies assembled one of the most awesome rotations that has ever been dipped in Awesome Sauce via trades and FA signings, and they were monsters for it. Most Yankee teams from most decades you care to name have had success with this.

      What really makes a FA & Trade Splash worthwhile is a balance of offence and defence, who the competition is, and some luck. Luck with injuries, both to the Splashy team and to their competition. Leadership and Team Chemistry will play roles too, but ultimately balancing what you have on the field, day in, day out, is what counts. The Beav have enough pieces now to do that on the hitting side. If they get another decent pitcher, then…then holy guacamole Batman.

      I suspect that the rest of the AL Beast GMs are getting nervous.

      • husky2score - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM

        All these moves by the Jays do at the most is (maybe) balance them out with the rest of the AL East teams. I wouldn’t say the GM’s are nervous though because there is a lot more of offseason to come, and I expect that one or two teams will make a few decent signings.

      • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:46 PM

        Good point about the amount of off season to come BUT the AL Beast is comprised of teams that can be described as “Aged”, “Rebuilding” and “Punchless”. The only teams with an established, legit threat that can match the Beav in arms and bats are the Orioles. The Aged Empire has the deepest pockets but fewest trade chips. The Sox seem the most desperate to try but what do they have to trade who’s out there to acquire? Pickings are slim. The Rays? They are cheap but have the best trade chip: James Sheilds. Its the Rays with the best chance of acquiring an elite bat. Whomever they get will have to be cheap, though. Who’s got a great hitter they can do without, signed for cheap and needs an arm? I can’t think of anyone.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:59 PM

        Empire has the deepest pockets but fewest trade chips

        As of now yes, I agree. But considering the Yanks have a couple of holes to fill, let’s let them fill them before we start printing playoff tickets.

      • paint771 - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM

        “All these moves by the Jays do at the most is (maybe) balance them out with the rest of the AL East teams.”

        Well, look at it this way – when they were unbalanced with the AL East in 2010 and 2011*, with most of this same core, they won 85 and 81 games respectively. Anyone want to argue the Yankees, Red Sox or Rays are going to better this year than those?

        *2012, even for Jays haters, can’t really be chalked up to performance.

      • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM

        COPO, I am making no predictions. I merely state that it appears My Boys just got better. By a lot. On both sides of the ball. This is empirically verifiable. Whether this turns into what I want it turn into will depend on a Manager and another arm. My Boys have just set themselves up as the Prettiest Girl In Town the two demographics of hitting and pitching. Lets see what happens next, then I might hazard a guess as to how the season will go.

      • husky2score - Nov 16, 2012 at 5:01 PM

        Lets just see if the Jays will be legitimate playoff contenders. After that, we will talk.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 16, 2012 at 6:45 PM

        I merely state that it appears My Boys just got better.

        Oh definitely, we can agree on that. Now y’all just need to exorcise whatever demon took over your pitching staff and is causing all the injuries as well as figure out where the real Ricky Romero went. Last year’s iteration was obviously a fake.

  15. greymares - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    At least the Yankees and Red Sox can battle for the basement

    • nbjays - Nov 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM

      My dream scenario…

  16. bayarea510 - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    So it looks like the Giants will be over paying for Angel Pagan.

    • temporarilyexiled - Nov 16, 2012 at 5:22 PM

      If they do resign Pagan, I bet it’s not for too much…so I’m basically saying they probably won’t sign him. And I don’t think they EVER had any intention of bringing Cabrera back. What does become interesting is not only the search for one or two new outfielders, but the search for a new leadoff hitter, who may indeed be one of those outfielders. While it seems like there aren’t many to be had, for the first time in memory, the Giants are quite the destination. There may be options for Brian Sabean to work a trade that haven’t been possible until now.

  17. henryd3rd - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Just how much money did this clown blow when he got suspended? Can you imagine him sitting home watching his former team winning the World Series? I’d love to have been a fly on the wall in his home that night.

  18. sisqsage - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    He gets a better contract than what he had with the Giants AFTER getting busted for PEDs. Seems more than a little risky and messed up.
    Another risk: his PEDs are going to have to be shipped across international borders now.

  19. jeteribarelyknowher - Nov 16, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Yeah, because the ’97 Marlins sucked when they brought in all those All-Stars…or the ’96 Orioles or the ’77 Yankees…etc.etc.

    Don’t be so quick to expect a similar outcome for Baltimore next year. They had a ton of players out producing their career norms.

  20. redsoxfan4life - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    I sure would like to see what Bobby V. could do with this crew!! LOL

  21. whitlockd - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    If the Jays are going to make any noise they had better have a closer under the age of 40.

    • rigatonikid - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM

      Santos, Janssen

      • paint771 - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM

        Oh, snap…but what about Oliver?!

        Save us, Scott Boras!

      • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM

        Delibar

  22. eagles512 - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    So much for rooting for them to win the east.

  23. xmatt0926x - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    I agree to an extent with the posters who say that offseason fireworks often result in less than happy results, but I think in the end you just have to go for it and add all the quality players you can get your hands on and let the chips fall where they may. Yeah, it would be great if all of our teams could churn out good players every year like the Cardinals, etc., but not many teams have shown they can do that. So what’s the alternative? Do you preach homegrown talent every year and spend a decade plus never really having a chance to compete? I don’t think so. I know I’d rather have my team go for it and see what happens.This is assuming it is within reason, of course. I don’t advocate constantly sending away every top prospect you have. It’s just that I don’t want my team hoarding every prospect, most of which will ultimately fail, to the detriment of ever forming a window of time where you can really go for it. I think if the jays fail with this group it will be because Josh Johnson has lost some ability through injury that will never come back and is not the game changer he was. Buehrle is solid though and Reyes can be a stud. Maybe not contract year studly, but enough of a stud to put a charge into their lineup. Again, what else can you do but add talent and hope it works? Are Jays fans more excited now with a punchers chance than if their GM had stayed with the typical “have to build from within!” line? I thnk so.

  24. xmatt0926x - Nov 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Ohh… and I think Melky is a good gamble and am disappointed that my Phillies didn’t go for him. I mean, I do fall on the side of people who feel that PED’s do give you a real advantage but how much of one? I can’t sit here and realistically believe that he goes from .360 to .255 without the PED’s. So if he ends up at something like .290 and has a decent OPS I think $8 million a year for 2years is a decent gamble. Hell, since the Jays are the new Dodgers of the American League, what’s a $16 million gamble to them? Bastards!

    • cur68 - Nov 16, 2012 at 7:27 PM

      Your hate…so intoxicating….

      Ahem. Right. Well I agree with your central points. Even a regressed to 290 Melky is a bargain at $8mil/year.

  25. canadabaseball - Nov 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Now there defiantly not done JP or Buck won’t both be hear at the start of the season one of them must be gone. The only other thing they really need to do is get Oliver to stay for another year, trade buck + Lind for a real first basemen or a starting pitcher if they think cooper can play. I also think this means that goose won’t be on the big club for another 2 years.

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